It finally happened. Officers abused and cavity searched someone I know.

[thehungarian]

Well, my day is ruined.

 

[kahless]

People in this thread are merely pointing out that wearing a hoody isn't Gangsta.

I started mid-video after she was sitting down and thought I clicked on the wrong tube. First impression was that it was a drug bust.

The video quality is poor, it could very well be close up it is a nice felt hoodie like the young girls wear and does not appear that way at all in person.

Like I said from my first post , regardless it was no justification to treat her that way. Probably said that bold part 20 times now.

Stole this from hot topics. It is about accurate for me today.

 

[DamianTV]

There truly is something off in this thread.

It isnt so much about hoodie profiling or police abuse, but what is lacking in this thread. What is it exactly that enables the Cops to have the power / legal authority to conduct such an intrusive right violating search to begin with? And more importantly, how do we fix this "thing" that gives the Cops the power to commit these atrocities?

I merely want to point out that these abuses by Cops will continue, and there will be more news articles, and more threads where people disagree unless we can at least address the real cause of the problems. I believe that to be Cops have become an Unaccountable Authority powered by the Corruption of the Law. The Cops behave like Criminals, but no one in office does anything to hold them personally accountable for gross violations of a persons rights. An individual Cop might get fired here and there, most of the time they are just let off and found Not Guilty, but even when they are found Guilty, the Taxpayer / Fine Payer pays the price for their misdeeds, thus relieving them even further of any form of Accountability. And no one that writes the laws does a fucking thing about what enables Police Abuse, because the Lawmakers support Police Abuse, cavity searches, and violation of the human being until they are degraded to the point where they are no longer able to perform menial tasks.

Hold the Law Accountable for Injustices and Hoodie Profiling will vanish.

 

[satchelmcqueen]

pussy cops

 

[Pericles]

Mine says "Boca." That sounds like gangsta a little, right?

Mine says ARMY - the badest ass gang on the planet Earth.

 

[kahless]

btw - saw the close-up of her in the hoodie towards the end of the video. It does not come off like that at all in this case. It was when viewed from a distance I got that impression.

 

[Mani]

I do think I understand what Kahless is saying about avoiding a situation and wearing appropriate attire. I think that's one of those things your grandparents teach you about dressing nicely and having a good first impression. That's a general decent rule.

However I don't believe that's rule applies in this specific situation, as others have stated a million times.



I also think AP in POST #90 hit the nail on the head. She got tackled and sexually assaulted because she DARED to ask, "WHY?"

In the Good Old US of A, if you dare to SPEAK back or NOT COMPLY immediately, you will be tackled, raped, humiliated, jailed, tortured, and/or possibly killed.


It doesn't matter if she was wearing a formal business suit or Doctor's coat or whatever. HOW THE FUCK DID THAT BITCH ASK WHY??? AND Im sure the women was already Pissed with her husband and probably some stress getting the kids buckled in and what not...And behind her is a cop saying, "I need your id" She was probably thinking, "WHAT THE FUCK!?! NOW WHAT??" So I'm sure it came out with a bit of frustration.

And if you speak to a LEO with a bit of frustration in your voice, You will be humiliated, you can bet on that. They are your masters. You are a bunch of fucking mundanes. You are NO ONE. You will only speak when asked a question, and you will speak quietly and politely and you will ONLY answer that question. YOU WILL OBEY ALL COMMANDS. AND YOU WILL DO IT IMMEDIATELY. YOU WILL COMPLY like the fucking second class citizen you are, you just never realized it before.


The video attached is a lesson. COMPLY. OBEY. DO NOT ASK QUESTIONS, DO NOT HESITATE, DO NOT SPEAK RUDELY, SHOW NO RESISTANCE, IF you do this, maybe you will survive the encounter, and maybe you won't be humiliated. BUT there are NO GUARANTEES, you still may be Tackled, raped, and humiliated.


Anyone with a pea sized brain knew this is a mother doing an errand with 2 small kids, who was no harm to anyone. Her crime was her attitude. Not her clothes, not dropping rocks in a mail slot. The only crime was her attitude. THIS IS the USA today.

The Police are a "paramilitary" force, and the citizens are the enemy.

Think of it this way. A Soldier in Iraq is looking for terrorists, the soldier is at war. Anyone could be an enemy. Anyone could have a bomb strapped to them or be planting IED's, kids, women, men, anyone. EVERYONE is the enemy. When a Soldier is called, they expect a hostile condition, and everyone they encounter is an enemy. Anyone that mouths off to them they start to beat the crap out of, and possibly bring back to base to interrogate and maybe torture. People that silently comply, Maybe the frisk, but probably they will let go after they are sure the area is secure.

THE POLICE think the EXACT SAME THING. YOU are the local iraqi, they think YOU may be the terrorist, YOU are the enemy.

When The Post office called 911, the SOLDIERS came in EXPECTING A HOSTILE CONDITION. A mundane was identified (an iraqi, Roxi's friend), she didn't immediately comply. She needed to be taught a lesson. Area was secured, and the SOLDIERS returned to base.



Soldiers = Police Force. The difference is the battleground is our home, and we are the enemy.

 

[tod evans]

Hold the Law Accountable for Injustices and Hoodie Profiling will vanish.

"The Law" is the entire corrupt "Just-Us" system, from dog-catcher to SC "Justice"...

There will never be accountability until the offenders are tried convicted and punished by honest courts comprised "Of the People".

Current members of the "Just-Us" system are, to a member, contributing to the problem, some overtly, some covertly or by apathy.

Citizens, sooner or later, will set up a "Justice" system that actually represents their ideas of right-n-wrong/legal and illegal....And that will be the start of a war like this country has never seen...

Those who seek to hold government accountable to the people will be labeled terrorists or worse no matter the purity of intention..

In the mean-time abuses will continue to escalate.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Or maybe everyone should start wearing hoodies like the people in Denmark in WW II who wore yellow stars so the state thugs there couldn't know who was or wasn't a jew? I have a Vanderbilt Law School hoodie. Does that say "gansta"?

I have a Penn State one.

Oh shit.

And all I have is a Ron Paul hoodie. Guess I'm toast.

 

[kahless]

And all I have is a Ron Paul hoodie. Guess I'm toast.

If you drive around with a cheap druggie looking hoodie up in a nice neighborhood it will increase your risk of being noticed and perhaps harmed by police. Especially if you do not take it off when dealing with law enforcement. Not saying it right, it is just the nature of the beast.

 

[amy31416]

If you drive around with a cheap druggie looking hoodie up in a nice neighborhood it will increase your risk of being noticed and perhaps harmed by police. Especially if you do not take it off when dealing with law enforcement. Not saying it right, it is just the nature of the beast.

Nobody is denying that, people just got pissed because you applied that to this woman when it wasn't even remotely true.

 

[LibertyEagle]

If you drive around with a cheap druggie looking hoodie up in a nice neighborhood it will increase your risk of being noticed and perhaps harmed by police. Especially if you do not take it off when dealing with law enforcement. Not saying it right, it is just the nature of the beast.

Well, "the beast" should be fired, at minimum.

 

[tod evans]

Well, "the beast" should be fired, at minimum.

Looking for the "Just-Us" system to fairly apply laws to their own, as they do to the citizens they rule, is foolish.

 

[kahless]

Nobody is denying that, people just got pissed because you applied that to this woman when it wasn't even remotely true.

After seeing the close-up I agree. Like I said in the thread it was my perception tuning in mid-stream that the treatment was based on profiling. I really should have proof read what I wrote since it did come off badly.

We can all speculate but neither you, I or anyone posting here knows for sure why these cops treated her so badly. But to get so outraged over blaming the reality of profiling, me thinks that is just pop-culture conditioning.

 

[pcosmar]

If you drive around with a cheap druggie looking hoodie up in a nice neighborhood it will increase your risk of being noticed and perhaps harmed by police. Especially if you do not take it off when dealing with law enforcement. Not saying it right, it is just the nature of the beast.

It is not a "cheap Druggie hoodie". Regardless or who is wearing it or where they are.

It is a common and very popular article of clothing..WORLDWIDE. And though is may be worn by some you may wish to justify the profiling of,, it is worn by literally millions of common folks everywhere.

And secondly,, The police assaulted her immediately while she was attending to her children. FOR NO REASON.
She was not committing any crime. None whatsoever. Nothing that would have justified treating her with that kind of disrespect.

If she was a hooded gang member that abuse would not be justified at all.
The only gang of thugs to be concerned with is the police themselves.

 

[amy31416]

After seeing the close-up I agree. Like I said in the thread it was my perception tuning in mid-stream that the treatment was based on profiling. I really should have proof read what I wrote since it did come off badly.

We can all speculate but neither you, I or anyone posting here knows for sure why these cops treated her so badly. But to get so outraged over blaming the reality of profiling, me thinks that is just pop-culture conditioning.

You know what the biggest mistake is in making an apology? Making an excuse or condition--you should have stopped at the first paragraph.

 

[kahless]

It is not a "cheap Druggie hoodie". Regardless or who is wearing it or where they are.

It is a common and very popular article of clothing..WORLDWIDE. And though is may be worn by some you may wish to justify the profiling of,, it is worn by literally millions of common folks everywhere.

And secondly,, The police assaulted her immediately while she was attending to her children. FOR NO REASON.
She was not committing any crime. None whatsoever. Nothing that would have justified treating her with that kind of disrespect.

If she was a hooded gang member that abuse would not be justified at all.
The only gang of thugs to be concerned with is the police themselves.

I do not justify bad treatment by police based on profiling that is just absurd. Other than that I agree with you if you are talking about this incident. I think you are over reaching in the last line to say "only".

btw - the reply you quoted had nothing to do with this case and is out of context. That reply was to Gunny about wearing a Ron Paul hoodie and a generalization.

 

[kahless]

Well, "the beast" should be fired, at minimum.

I agree.

 

[cajuncocoa]

It is not a "cheap Druggie hoodie". Regardless or who is wearing it or where they are.

It is a common and very popular article of clothing..WORLDWIDE. And though is may be worn by some you may wish to justify the profiling of,, it is worn by literally millions of common folks everywhere.

And secondly,, The police assaulted her immediately while she was attending to her children. FOR NO REASON.
She was not committing any crime. None whatsoever. Nothing that would have justified treating her with that kind of disrespect.

If she was a hooded gang member that abuse would not be justified at all.
The only gang of thugs to be concerned with is the police themselves.

Indeed. In my area the temp rarely drops enough to wear a heavy jacket, so a hoodie suffices as my choice of outerwear during the winter. I had no idea someone might profile me as a "druggie".

 

[Tor_Hershman]

A good police officer is a true Hero,
a criminal in uniform IS a criminal in uniform.