Israeli air raid kills 4 Palestinian kids

[Zolah]

You'll never get that from them. They're hypocrites. Just like "anti-war" liberals who want our military to invade Sudan. The truth is, just like democrats are only against republican wars and vis versa, they're only against Israel bombing people who they sympathize with on "The Jewish Issue".

The plight of the Palestinians has just become a cover issue for the anti-Semites ever since denying the holocaust went out of fashion (though apparently some here haven't got the memo on that)

Resent this comment, Israel would be wrong in its actions if it were Hindu, Christian, Muslim, or even if it was a 100% athiest state, I seperate Israel and Judaism very clearly - their military decisions aren't based on religion, their military advisors may not even be Jewish, so why is wanting Israel to stop bombing Palestine anti-semitic?

 

[Benny45]

Resent this comment, Israel would be wrong in its actions if it were Hindu, Christian, Muslim, or even if it was a 100% athiest state, I seperate Israel and Judaism very clearly - their military decisions aren't based on religion, their military advisors may not even be Jewish, so why is wanting Israel to stop bombing Palestine anti-semitic?

Good, because I seperate hamas, islamic jihad, and the plo thugs from muslims very clearly. I do not think all muslims want to wipe Israel off the map, and blow up jewish children.

 

[Paulestinian]

Good, because I seperate hamas, islamic jihad, and the plo thugs from muslims very clearly. I do not think all muslims want to wipe Israel off the map, and blow up jewish children.

This isn't an inherently religious conflict, even though religion contributes in part to what is happening.

The root cause of this conflict is private property and land rights. The indigenous population ie. Palestinians (Muslims, Christians and yes, Palestinian Jews) want their houses and farms back.

This conflict would have happened if both sides had no religion. Occupation simply does not work. For occupation to work, the occupied need to be annihilated or ethnically cleansed. The Palestinians have so far refused to go the way of the Native Americans and I don't see that happening. Not when there are 10 million Palestinians around the world.

 

[MarcS]

Resent this comment, Israel would be wrong in its actions if it were Hindu, Christian, Muslim, or even if it was a 100% athiest state, I seperate Israel and Judaism very clearly - their military decisions aren't based on religion, their military advisors may not even be Jewish, so why is wanting Israel to stop bombing Palestine anti-semitic?

It's not, the issue however, has become a convenient place for antisemites to hide. Want proof, read the thread. I'm glad you're not one of them.

 

[Paulestinian]

It's not, the issue however, has become a convenient place for antisemites to hide. Want proof, read the thread. I'm glad you're not one of them.

I agree with MarcS. This is not a place to hate a race or a culture. Even though I am a Palestinian, I do not hate Jews. In fact I have immense respect for them. Those whom I have a problem with are the ones that threw both my parents and grandparents out of their houses, TWICE, whatever their religion may be.

 

[MarcS]

I agree with MarcS. This is not a place to hate a race or a culture. Even though I am a Palestinian, I do not hate Jews. In fact I have immense respect for them. Those whom I have a problem with are the ones that threw both my parents and grandparents out of their houses, TWICE, whatever their religion may be.

I'll agree with you there. The individuals responsible for your families unwarranted eviction from their home are despicable and i hope they can be made right without a never ending series of wrongs from both sides of the conflict.

My problem is, too many people in the free palestine movement connect Israel with all jews, then they show those horriffic pictures and say, "look at what the evil jews did!" and it culminates with 4 students at my college beating the crap out of 2 Jewish kids coming out of a pizza shop.

I'm sure you have similar issues with your people all being labeled as terrorists. Hate from either side only serves to get the wrong people in the crosshairs.

 

[Falseflagop]

MARC I think you are one of those paid trolls, imho to silence the RP revolution. You are right the Arabs and the Palestines run our media, how can I be so stupid.

 

[Falseflagop]

Sad but valid point.

The Zionist controlled media will not let equal news reporting happen, it is just to easy for them to let the American Sheeple just then Jews are always the victims. And if anyone speaks out against it they are labeled a Anti-Semitic. This is the big card the Zionist will continue to play.
But slowly people are waking up and I hate to say it but I think in the future people are going to turn against all Jews the way they did in Germany, I already see this starting. But it’s all the greedy Zionists fault. It’s like it is all or nothing for them.
This makes me sad because I have a lot of great friends that are Jewish even my 2 closest cousins Mom is Jewish blood, she was adopted but grew up Christian but she still is Jewish.

WHo owns the FEDERAL RESERVE

 

[MarcS]

MARC I think you are one of those paid trolls, imho to silence the RP revolution. You are right the Arabs and the Palestines run our media, how can I be so stupid.

And just when we think we're getting somewhere...in comes this asshole.

Paulestinian, why don't you and I, in a gesture of solidarity between the Jewish and Palestinian people, tell this moron his hate is not welcome in our peace movement.

 

[VoteForRonPaul]

And it is hypocritical to compare primitive, homemade rocketsthat might shatter a few windows to 1 ton bunker buster missiles that bring down whole neighborhoods, and F-16s and Apache helicopters. Have the US give the Palestinians F-16s like it does the Israelis and they might stop targetting civilians.

Paulestinian, there is no doubt that the Israeli governments are group of criminals and because we know this, there is no need for giving those criminals the incentives to kill our people. unfortunately the leaders of Hamas claim to be moral and they care about their people, but the truth is that the leaders of Hamas have no morals nor they care about their people and all they care for is to fullfill their own ideology which brings nothing but misery to the people of Palestine. It is time to protest the childish homemade rockets that do no good for the Palestinians. There is no ideology nor any thing in this world should be more important than saving lives.

 

[Benny45]

Paulestinian, there is no doubt that the Israeli governments are group of criminals and because we know this, there is no need for giving those criminals the incentives to kill our people. unfortunately the leaders of Hamas claim to be moral and they care about their people, but the truth is that the leaders of Hamas have no morals nor they care about their people and all they care for is to fullfill their own ideology which brings nothing but misery to the people of Palestine. It is time to protest the childish homemade rockets that do no good for the Palestinians. There is no ideology nor any thing in this world should be more important than saving lives.

While I don't agree with everything you say (those childish homemade rockets have killed and maimed), I think that the only way the situation will get resolved is by new, fresh, brave leaders on both sides who want nothing but peace and a two state solution.

 

[VoteForRonPaul]

While I don't agree with everything you say (those childish homemade rockets have killed and maimed), I think that the only way the situation will get resolved is by new, fresh, brave leaders on both sides who want nothing but peace and a two state solution.

Why do not you agree with me on everything? Did my statement contain anything that justifies killing innocent people???If, please point! I said before "There is no ideology nor any thing in this world should be more important than saving lives". I think you should carry the consequences of your interpretation and not me.
Though, I have to agree, this situation needs fresh leaders on both sides. Extremist on both sides will bring nothing to the table except blood and more hatred.

 

[sophocles07]

Nothing educated Americans can do about it, so I guess the second option is what will happen.

Well they obviously wouldn’t vote in candidates who support Israel the way we do.

That should seem blatant enough.

While I don't agree with everything you say (those childish homemade rockets have killed and maimed), I think that the only way the situation will get resolved is by new, fresh, brave leaders on both sides who want nothing but peace and a two state solution.

Plus the US has to stop printing money for aiding other countries.

 

[jpwilhelm]

I hear what you say about Hamas they are the Islam extremists, I do not agree with the way they think, but at least they are trying to do something. Israel keeps taking more and more land all the time. Just look at all the settlements being built at the same time they are talking about this so called peace agreement. Israel does not give a fuck about Palestinians. If there were not groups like Hezbollah and Hamas Israel would have settlements all over Gaza and Lebanon right now. We have learned that peaceful protesting really does not help when dealing with the Zionist you will just be run over by a bulldozer or shot for being in the way.

 

[Dr.3D]

Well they obviously wouldn’t vote in candidates who support Israel the way we do.

That should seem blatant enough.

If they don't vote for candidates who support Israel, then who can they vote for?

They can't vote for someone who isn't in the race.... unless like we will probably be doing here, just write in Ron Paul and that would pretty much be a protest vote.

I really hope Ron Paul can somehow be on the ballot this fall. If not, then I will write him in.

I hope you see my point, we don't usually get any choice about voting for someone who doesn't support Israel.

 

[Benny45]

Why do not you agree with me on everything? Did my statement contain anything that justifies killing innocent people???If, please point! I said before "There is no ideology nor any thing in this world should be more important than saving lives". I think you should carry the consequences of your interpretation and not me.
Though, I have to agree, this situation needs fresh leaders on both sides. Extremist on both sides will bring nothing to the table except blood and more hatred.

I think I made it clear that I disagree with your comments about the childish rockets.
Other than that, I agree.

 

[sophocles07]

If they don't vote for candidates who support Israel, then who can they vote for?

Ron Paul.

They can't vote for someone who isn't in the race.... unless like we will probably be doing here, just write in Ron Paul and that would pretty much be a protest vote.

Well, this is what I would consider “education”; if the populace was educated, they were never allow someone like McCain to even get into the picture.

I really hope Ron Paul can somehow be on the ballot this fall. If not, then I will write him in.

Me too.

I hope you see my point, we don't usually get any choice about voting for someone who doesn't support Israel.

I completely agree. All I was saying was that if there was some way to educate the nation’s voters, voting would actually have some meaning—right now, there are so many completely mindless people going around (think people who buy Beyonce cds, enjoy Sean Hannity, don’t know how to locate Afghanistan on a map, etc.) that our votes (people who are educated) are almost useless.

 

[kyleAF]

The plight of the Palestinians has just become a cover issue for the anti-Semites

Please define Semite, because I consider it to describe several languages and ethnicities of South-Western Asian descent... including modern Arabs, Jews and others.

As for me, I don't give a rat's ass about Israel or Palestine or any other "group". I'm an individualist. Let them fight it out if they want to, but how's about we STOP HANDING THEM GUNS!!!

Make no mistake, we provide weapons (directly and indirectly) to BOTH sides of the conflict... either through indirect financing channels (Palestinian side) or through direct supply (Israeli side).

 

[Benny45]

Ron Paul.



Well, this is what I would consider “education”; if the populace was educated, they were never allow someone like McCain to even get into the picture.



Me too.



I completely agree. All I was saying was that if there was some way to educate the nation’s voters, voting would actually have some meaning—right now, there are so many completely mindless people going around (think people who buy Beyonce cds, enjoy Sean Hannity, don’t know how to locate Afghanistan on a map, etc.) that our votes (people who are educated) are almost useless.

When did Ron Paul ever say that he doesn't support Israel? Please show me the link?

"my administration would treat Israel as a friend and trading partner." - Ron Paul

 

[sophocles07]

When did Ron Paul ever say that he doesn't support Israel? Please show me the link?

"my administration would treat Israel as a friend and trading partner." - Ron Paul

I mean literally SUPPORT.

Giving ridiculous amounts of money and arms to Israel.

Not "treating as an equal."