Israel: An issue many in the liberty movement get wrong

[pcosmar]

For this particular debate, they are jews. They self-identify as such.

The certainly do.
I think they do it to give jews a bad name. but that is my suspicion.

I know your afflictions and your poverty—yet you are rich! I know about the slander of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.

 

[Tywysog Cymru]

American jews control the key levers in finance, politics and media. Some are the worst perpetrators of tyranny in this country. It's not even a debate. Look at Schumer, Feinstein, Blankfein, Weinstein, Bloomberg. You can go on and on. It could be a coincidence but many of our harshest overlords are Jewish.

There are millions of American Jews, those are just a handful. Have you ever met a Jew?

 

[amy31416]

I'm not pro-Israel either. I really dislike American jews and question whether the creation of Israel in retrospect was the best course of action. But I'm not going to sit here and listen to falsehoods perpetrated by the Palestinian establishment and the mainstream media when it is blatantly fiction.

Well that's interesting. Why do you dislike American Jews?

 

[otherone]

Unfortunately, many Jews are spiritually blind... that is not just my opinion, it's what the bible says. (2 Corinthians 3:14-16)

I wonder if Torquemada used the same rationale.

 

[lilymc]

I wonder if Torquemada used the same rationale.

You're good at trolling. If you have a point to make, make it.

The insinuations, deceptive comments are red herrings are getting old.

 

[amy31416]

I wonder if Torquemada used the same rationale.

I think we're finding out who the actual anti-"semites" are around here.

 

[otherone]

You're good at trolling. If you have a point to make, make it.

Yeah.
I troll with my message of tolerance.
One can't speak of ALL Muslims, Jews, or Christians.
Otherwise, you know, umm...genocide.

 

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[lilymc]

I think we're finding out who the actual anti-"semites" are around here.

Wow... are you actually implying that because I said Jews are spiritually blind, I'm anti-semitic? From a biblical perspective, ANYONE who rejects Jesus/God is spiritually blind. That means atheists, agnostics, Muslims, pagans, Hindus, etc.

Stating that someone is spiritually blind doesn't mean you hate them. By that 'logic', God and Jesus are "anti-semitic" because it is the bible that states that unbelievers are spiritually blind. Did you not realize that?

I shouldn't even have to say this, but since you and otherone like insinuating dishonest things, I'll say it. I love Jews, and Muslims. I stated earlier that someday I would like to do missions work in a place where there are Muslims and Jews.

This has actually been kinda funny. First someone accused me of being anti-Muslim because I pointed out the hate against Jews. Then you (seem to) imply that I'm anti-semitic for stating a truth about spiritual blindness.

/sigh

 

[AuH20]

There are millions of American Jews, those are just a handful. Have you ever met a Jew?

I work and live with Jews. They are deluded in the Northeast. I guess that's what happens in high finance and academia.

 

[amy31416]

Wow... are you actually implying that because I said Jews are spiritually blind, I'm anti-semitic? From a biblical perspective, ANYONE who rejects Jesus/God is spiritually blind. That means atheists, agnostics, Muslims, pagans, Hindus, etc.

Stating that someone is spiritually blind doesn't mean you hate them. By that 'logic', God and Jesus are "anti-semitic" because it is the bible that states that unbelievers are spiritually blind. Did you not realize that?

I shouldn't even have to say this, but since you and otherone like insinuating dishonest things, I'll say it. I love Jews, and Muslims. I stated earlier that someday I would like to do missions work in a place where there are Muslims and Jews.

This has actually been kinda funny. First someone accused me of being anti-Muslim because I pointed out the hate against Jews. Then you (seem to) imply that I'm anti-semitic for stating a truth about spiritual blindness.

/sigh

Yeah. I am.

Live and let live. My gripe with Israel's government is that they steal from us and get us involved in massive warfare. I have absolutely no problem with their religion. You do.

As far as I know, Jesus wouldn't approve of the "modern" state of Israel. You do.

 

[DFF]

The problem with Jews are the radical leftist Jews.

Those who believe in Keynesian economics, the welfare state, endless warfare and money for Israel, mass immigration, and gay marriage etc.

Unfortunately these guys have the biggest voice in politics and academia, but they aren't representative of all Jews.

There are quite a few Libertarian Jews, Peter Schiff, Adam Kokesh; they don't all swing left.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

I work and live with Jews. They are deluded in the Northeast. I guess that's what happens in high finance and academia.

Lol.

 

[amy31416]

The problem with Jews are the radical leftist Jews.

Those who believe in Keynesian economics, the welfare state, endless warfare and money for Israel, mass immigration.

Unfortunately these guys have the biggest voice in politics in academia, but they aren't representative of all Jews by any means.

Mass immigration for countries other than Israel. And no, they're hardly a voice for most Jews....but as the neocons like to say in regards to the Muslims--"where are the dissenting voices?"

 

[amy31416]

I work and live with Jews. They are deluded in the Northeast. I guess that's what happens in high finance and academia.

I have black friends!

 

[AuH20]

I have black friends!

What the hell does that mean? Long Island contains one of the largest concentration of jews in the U.S. The five towns. Great Neck. Roslyn. Woodbury. Professionals and those in finance. You don't have to major in social science to arrive at what they view the proper role of government to be. Think Chuck Schumer and worse. Take the worse of the Republicans and then the democrats, and you have the average political stance of metropolitan New York jew.

 

[Danke]

I have black friends!

Have you broken the news to Kludge?

 

[lilymc]

Yeah. I am.

Live and let live. My gripe with Israel's government is that they steal from us and get us involved in massive warfare. I have absolutely no problem with their religion. You do.

As far as I know, Jesus wouldn't approve of the "modern" state of Israel. You do.

I never stated that I approved of the modern state of Israel, you are putting words in my mouth. And I didn't say that I disapproved. Most of my posts were pointing out the one-sidedness from some people, who were talking about racism, hate, murder, while completely ignoring that the other side does the exact same thing, only worse.

Also, you didn't address what I said. It is silly to say that someone is anti-semitic for saying that Jews are spiritually blind, because it is the BIBLE that says that. And you also ignored that from a Christian perspective, ANYONE who rejects Jesus/God is spiritually blind. That means Muslims too. And atheists, Hindus, etc, etc, etc.

I guess I touched a nerve with you. But once again, saying someone is spiritually blind doesn't mean that you hate them. Hating someone would be to NOT care about their spiritual condition.

 

[specsaregood]

There are millions of American Jews, those are just a handful. Have you ever met a Jew?

you live in KY, have you ever met one IRL?

 

[Massachusetts]

Yeah, so back to the actual topic at hand about Israel and the liberty movements perception of it. Enough of this religious bickering and racially motivated statements.