Is Ted Cruz undermining Rand Paul?

Possible. Hillary would be tough to beat unless Rand and Cruz grow a vagina. They got the first black president, the first woman will be quite tempting for low information voters.

You are not going to admit that Rand has a chance and Cruz doesn't? Wow
 
You are not going to admit that Rand has a chance and Cruz doesn't? Wow

Rand would have a better chance if the liberty movement didn't get divided up by the close associate of the Bush family. Cruz has zero chance of winning a nation-wide election.
 
Rand has a spare vagina if he needs one: VP Palin.

But he won't necessarily need one, since the Democrat ticket will be Biden-Booker.


You could be right about Biden. It's his turn and the parties tend to operate within a pecking order. (Which is why I worry the GOP establishment will try to undermine Rand's chances. They aren't known for making the brightest choices either.)
 
You could be right about Biden. It's his turn and the parties tend to operate within a pecking order. (Which is why I worry the GOP establishment will try to undermine Rand's chances. They aren't known for making the brightest choices either.)

And the way the GOP establishment would undermine Rand's chances would be to split the liberty movement. Ted Cruz is very useful to the GOP establishment right now for this reason. Remember, he is very close to the Bush family.
 
I don't think the Republican Party will go through the catastrophe of having Palin as the VP on a presidential ticket again.
 
Ted Cruz is CFR controlled opposition
More like the same groups control the CFR that control Ted Cruz and the US Government (The Zionist + War Industry alliance).

It's important to understand what the CFR is, and that its agenda is primarily driven by the people who make it up. Which is why it's nonsensical to say that Rand shouldn't be a part of it if he can.
 
Rand has a spare vagina if he needs one: VP Palin.

But he won't necessarily need one, since the Democrat ticket will be Biden-Booker.

No, they will need to one up team billary and get a minority woman, maybe Martinez from NM.

Booker is in bad shape now, lots of negative PR. Lonegan is within 6 points, he might not win but he did some real political damage. Biden, do I really even have to explain...
 
Let's hope not, for Rand's sake.

But Palin, like Cruz is another example of how the GOP establishment tries to co-opt the liberty movement to get their money and votes while denying our candidates. I don't think we should trust or have anything to do with Paul Ryan, Sarah Palin, Ted Cruz, etc. Just sets us up for disaster later on as they use us. I think it is better to even lose but keep principle and get the ideas out then to play the game of making nice with the GOP, muddling our message, and then just losing anyway. Then again Rand Paul is no Ron Paul.
 
But Palin, like Cruz is another example of how the GOP establishment tries to co-opt the liberty movement to get their money and votes while denying our candidates. I don't think we should trust or have anything to do with Paul Ryan, Sarah Palin, Ted Cruz, etc. Just sets us up for disaster later on as they use us. I think it is better to even lose but keep principle and get the ideas out then to play the game of making nice with the GOP, muddling our message, and then just losing anyway. Then again Rand Paul is no Ron Paul.

I owe ya another rep.
 
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I wish Ron was half as amazing and influential as Rand.


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The same way Obama did? His mother was a US citizen at the time of his birth.

You're forgetting one major difference, O was born in "Hawaii" while Cruz on the other hand has admitted and WAS born in Canada.. Don't matter if turncoat Ted's mother was a U.S citizen, fact is Ted has and probably still holds dual citizenship. I'd imagine there would be tons of legal challenges and quite possibly even from the GOP if someone like Christie was a close second. That's even before Hillary and the democrats go after him...
 
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