Iowa Caucuses Return Watching - OFFICIAL THREAD!!! (1/3/12)

"I'll cut a trillion dollars to save senior entitlements like Social Security, protect Veteran's benefits, and to reduce our horrendous national debt"

No. The point isn't to save the welfare state. It should go more like:

"I'll cut a trillion dollars without cutting benefits for seniors or veteran's benefits".
 
No. The point isn't to save the welfare state. It should go more like:

"I'll cut a trillion dollars without cutting benefits for seniors or veteran's benefits".

disagree.the point to be emphasized is thst if paul's overseas cuts arent in place,the other candidates will one day have to cut seniors welfare.paul would save them from being thrown into the streets.
 
Well, whatever...
Time to tighten our belts and dig in deeper. There's a lot we'll learn from this in the next few days about what we could have done better. I'm not going anywhere.
 
I saw the figure several weeks ago: The average Fox News viewer is 65 years old, that's why the old people in Iowa didn't vote for Ron Paul because Fox doesn't like him.
 
Why this is disappointing, I wouldn't hang my head low. Even Paul himself said it would shock him if he won this just helps the movement. Everyone needs to focus on getting as many delegates as they can at the GOP convention. I personally think we're going to get a Mitt Romney/Rick Santorum 2012 ticket for the GOP which is shameful but I think that's what we'll get. What people should focus on is getting Rand Paul the GOP Nomination for Governor of Kentucky in 2015 which would set him up nicely for 2016 presidential run. He'll been in the Senate for 4 to 5 years and then a year of governorship under his belt would help the movement a lot. I'm 99.9% sure Ron Paul will not seek the Libertarian Nomination and the LP should go with a Gary Johnson/Jesse Ventura 2012 ticket for protest voters as you would have two popular and quality governors running on the LP ticket with real libertarian ideals. Just fight the good fight and earn those GOP delegates like we did in 2008, your voice can still be heard and the Tea Party voice is still strong in the GOP.
 
No. The point isn't to save the welfare state. It should go more like:

"I'll cut a trillion dollars without cutting benefits for seniors or veteran's benefits".

You know that and I know that, but it doesn't matter. The outcome between what he said and what you said is the same, except his wins more senior votes, which is what we need to win the election. I'm fine with claiming that every penny we cut was specifically for the purpose of saving Socialism Security. The people who need to be educated already know better. We are done educating until December 2012, now is the time to build coalitions. Opening the seniors will mean we win.
 
This is way better for us than a mittens win.

EXACTLY Santorum is a one off joke. he will be vetted this next week and plummet. They may prop up Huntsman for NH but after that he will be done to. That just leaves Paul,Gingrich and Romney moving forward. And with Gingrich pretty much on a rampage to collapse his campaign this will end up being Paul and Romney for super tuesday.
 
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