Iowa Caucuses Return Watching - OFFICIAL THREAD!!! (1/3/12)

Wow, jefferson county rocks. What's there, seriously? A satellite mises campus or something? Paul got 49%[/QUOTE

There's a big TM Maharishi university down there. Most of the TM community is pretty libertarian oriented in many aspects also a lot of Mennonites I believe which I'm not really sure how they lean. It is also a pretty sophisticated little community that kind of sticks out for that part of Iowa. ie..lots of people from all over the world live there with a lot of foreign experiences. I've been there and it's very pretty with lots of little restaurants and small entreprenurial businesses.
 
even Bachmann is not dropping out ?
Perry, Gingrich and Bachmann are going for SC !
 
Ron Paul could have gotten less than 1% of the vote and I'd still be cheering for him. I'm going to work harder so I can donate more money to the cause! I hope that none of you guys lose hope and we keep going strong. Good night everyone!

I will forever be a Ron Paul fan.

I am a realist though and know we once again are a campaign of spreading the message of liberty. A 3rd place in Iowa will just give the MSM the reason to once again ignore us.
 
I hate old people...they need to die already. Like they haven't screwed our generation enough lol

Ron Paul is old people. I'm old people. Get used to it. We ain't gonna die soon enough for ya'. So let's factor that in going forward.

Ron Paul did GREAT tonight considering how the media has continuously stacked the deck against him. He needs to sharpen his stick on a few points in his talk, but I have confidence things will work out fine.
 
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You have to think of it this way- yeah Ron lost Iowa and more than likely has no chance left to win...but yet in his speech he was all smiles and enthusiastic. Why is that?

Well, lets go back to 1988. Ron thinks "you know, I think the nation is ready for a different minded candidate and the libertarian party!" ....then gets .5% of the vote. With results like that, you think the guy would be like most people in this forum and just say "**** it it's not worth it, this country is hopeless" Thank the heavens he didn't quit, though. he went back into congress and continues for another decade, then tried again for President.

What did he get that time? Well, he got ridiculed and to sum up the media coverage, "electability, do you have any?". He gained some youth voters, but still got crushed nationally. But out of this "failure", we got the tea party and Rand Paul., along with many other liberty activist.

On to 2012, the .5% crackpot libertarian gets 20+ percent in a statewide election among an atypical demographic for libertarians. The media is running scared of him, and think that they have finally stopped his movement with a loss in Iowa. Deep down, Ron knows that it doesn't matter anymore if he becomes president. Hell, I honestly think he always knew he would never win. The ball is rolling now, RP supporters are writing planks, running for office, and are making up the MAJORITY of the future vote in the GOP. Will Ron live to see a total victory of the liberty movement? Probably not. Can he retire from politics knowing that the victory is inevitable...YES.

All Ron ever wanted from politics is people to wake up to big government and tyranny, and you know, i think after 40 years he has finally got it.

Agree 100%. I'm sure that Paul knows all too well the story of Elijah and the remnant.
 
SAD...


But I have to say... I have never seen a US Senator as Angry and Pissed-Off like Rand Paul this evening.


I just can't see how the hell we lose almost 10,000 votes projected for us.

AN incredible state of TV viewers
 
Wow, jefferson county rocks. What's there, seriously? A satellite mises campus or something? Paul got 49%[/QUOTE

There's a big TM Maharishi university down there. Most of the TM community is pretty libertarian oriented in many aspects also a lot of Mennonites I believe which I'm not really sure how they lean. It is also a pretty sophisticated little community that kind of sticks out for that part of Iowa. ie..lots of people from all over the world live there with a lot of foreign experiences. I've been there and it's very pretty with lots of little restaurants and small entreprenurial businesses.

There's your answer. Mennonites are staunchly anti-war. I went to a Mennonite church for a year.
 
I think when the real story on Santorum is told, there are going to be a lot of embarrassed people in Iowa. They probably won't admit they voted for him once they really know him. Iowa claims they do all this research on candidates, but there's not doubt here, Santorum got the "CNN told me he's a good guy" vote and people didn't do their homework. That's combined with the millions spent by the church groups on his behalf the last couple weeks.
 
A friend of mine from Iowa (she didn't vote) told me that Iowans voted for Santorum because he worked the hardest by visiting every county. Something she said she hasn't even done. I about choked. Really? That's how you choose your candidate? Who dances like a chimp the most? :rolleyes:
 
Well, I'm stoked.

For those of us who have been following RP for a while, this is a win. Period.

As others have made note of: what will happen when sudden-surge-no-game-on-the-ground-in-NH Santorum gets vetted? It won't be pretty. And for us? The newsletters are so last year already - literally and figuratively.

Chins up, noses to grindstone.
 
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