Invasion USA

Whether the immigrants are from Somalia or Antarctica matters not. It's the corrupt welfare state at work, which does create incentives.

About 5 percent of Minneapolis is Somalian, but already 1 in 3 city residents living in public housing are Somali. One third!

Now, the first Somali immigrant to chair the Minneapolis Public Housing Authority has pleaded guilty to stealing more than $7.5 million in taxpayer money, as a leading figure in the massive Feeding Our Future fraud. Dozens of people, overwhelmingly from the Somali community, stole more than $50 million while Tim Walz's government did nothing to stop them — after all, that would have been racist.

This is lunacy. America is one of the most desirable nations in human history. Instead of admitting useful people who would make the country better, we have admitted millions who are immediately going on the dole, either overtly or by stealing from the public.

Democrats enable this, because they don't see America as a real country. They see it as a pile of money for their clients to loot.
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Whether the immigrants are from Somalia or Antarctica matters not.

I disagree.

If we are talking about "immigrants" in the true sense of the word, lacking the corrupt welfare state or not, there is a world of difference between allowing in a 140 IQ chemical engineer from Japan or Switzerland and a 68 IQ mud eater from Haiti.
 
I disagree.

If we are talking about "immigrants" in the true sense of the word, lacking the corrupt welfare state or not, there is a world of difference between allowing in a 140 IQ chemical engineer from Japan or Switzerland and a 68 IQ mud eater from Haiti.

Well, a healthy immigration vetting system would be based upon need. There are jobs more fitted to an 80 IQ vs. a 140 IQ.

And unfortunately, any IQ is susceptible to sucking on the govt teat rather than working. That is the major problem. The welfare state is damaging enough on the current population, let alone being a lure for foreigners, to destroy their work ethic too. (If they had one to start with, and IMHO and experience, the "harder working" foreigner, whether engineer or day laborer, is a myth, a pro-immigration fallacy).
 
Newest Hampshire...

Let's pretend that New Hampshire secedes from the US. It becomes Newest Hampshire- a libertarian country with low/nonexistent taxes, regulation, and open borders.

Here's what I think would happen: mass immigration from poor countries. This is, at first, encouraged. Newest Hampshire employers get cheap labor. Immigrants get better economic conditions than home. It seems like a win-win.

But these immigrants overall come for money, not ideology. They are largely not libertarian minded. Since poor countries tend to have anti-libertarian collectivist cultures.

Newest Hampshire residents are now more ideologically diverse. Sure, you can try to persuade the new arrivals to become libertarian minded. But it's difficult when it's part of someone's culture ingrained from birth.

With this in mind, how can Newest Hampshire stay libertarian? Won't it become more statist overtime due to the influx of non-libertarian residents?
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Some people are saying that a libertarian country would have private (not open) immigration. Basically, people would have to be "invited" in order to live there.

OK. Here's a different scenario.

Newest Hampshire is a libertarian country with no regulation on businesses. That means no minimum wage or labor laws.

Business owners start "inviting" third world immigrants to Newest Hampshire to work for them. Why? Maximizing profits. These third world immigrants will work for a small fraction of what the native population will accept.

These business owners care about the bottom line of their company, first. They do not have much concern for the greater community.

Business owners start importing Haitian immigrants by the boat load. These Haitians want to come to Newest Hampshire for the money. Understandably so. Most Haitians make less than $2 a day. In Newest Hampshire, they will make $2 an hour- a big improvement for them.

These business owners build/buy shoddy apartment buildings to house them. These Haitians are used to very low standards of living. Multiple families can be crammed into one apartment. The cost of housing them is still much less/more profitable than hiring the native population.

These Haitian live like they do in their country. Why wouldn't they?

Reckless driving is the norm in their country. They wreck into private property and keep going. They don't follow road rules. Newest Hampshire residents are negatively affected.

Littering is the norm in their country. They throw trash out of their windows. The litter blows to other people's private property. Newest Hampshire residents are negatively affected.

Sexual harrassment of women is the norm in their country. They yell at women. Make sexually explicit gestures. Newest Hampshire residents are negatively affected.

Business owners love the cheap labor. Before the Haitians arrived, they had to pay the average unskilled worker $20 an hour. Now their paying $2 an hour plus super cheap travel and housing. They have still cost cuts in the long run.

The native unskilled worker population struggles to find jobs for acceptable pay. Sure, they have advantages over the Haitians. They speak fluent English, for example. But is that skill worth 10 times the amount that an employer can pay a Haitian? No. Business owners offer natives less pay than before. Some Newest Hampshire residents now have a lower standard of living.

Problems that didn't exist (on a large scale) before start happening. Gang fights, kidnapping, scams, ransoms, rapes, sexual assaults... all things that are much more common in Haiti.

If there's elections and offices, these Haitians largely do not vote like the native population. They bring with them their own political ideas and the way society should work.

Some Newest Hampshire residents begin to complain. Others disagree. There's more conflict between residents than before.

The pro-mass immigration crowd says that the objectors are just racist. They say have empathy for the Haitians. They are just there for a better life. The objectors should be happy about mass immigration since that means cheap goods. The objectors should be happy that the Haitians are doing jobs that Newest Hampshire residents won't do. They think that the Haitians can just be taught liberty and their way of life.

Of course, these people don't live in reality. Statistics are not racists. Yes, the Haitians are there for a better life. I can understand and empathize with their reasons. I don't fault them for wanting more money. We all do. But where is the empathy for the Newest Hampshire residents? Why is this empathy one sided?

Yes, there are cheaper goods. That's a plus. But at what cost? Can we talk about NET benefit? Yes, the Haitians are doing jobs that Newest Hampshirers won't do. But there is a second part to that sentence that is oft forgotten..."for those wages."

And here's the thing: Haitians believe that their ideals and customs are right. Just like everyone else. It's their culture that has been ingrained into them since birth like just ours.

That's a challenge, right? It isn't so simple as just telling them about the non-aggression principle or explaining that women have individual rights. It's naive to think so.

I don't have all the answers. I can just see open or privatized immigration being counterproductive to the type of society they are trying to achieve. If they want a libertarian society, people within that society need to share similar ideas and values. Period.
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