in case you haven't heard, RP could run in 2012

[itshappening]

I think he could do really, really well in the primaries if he decided he was going to run early on.

Think about how much money he could raise BEFORE Iowa and New Hampshire with the amount of support he has now. If we all started saving now, we could make the maximum contribution WAY before Iowa is even on the radar. Imagine Ron Paul with over $20 million in the bank before the primaries even get started. He would dominate.

I hope he decides to run as a Republican.

Ron could have $100m and the incompetent people around him would find some way to piss it away and lose. sad but true

 

[nate895]

I dont have much faith in the people in his campaign, i dont think it's a good idea for him to run again. it'll just get everyones hopes up and then they'll let us down again

do you remember the original ads they had? jesus.

While I agree that the campaign wasn't run the greatest, I also have to lay some blame on the grassroots because of the weird way that the campaign obtained funds. They got their primary cash infusions just a month or two prior to Iowa. That leads to a bunch of people who have no clue what to do with so much money, which leads to rash decisions to air, either several bad ads, or to saturate the market with one good ad (there simply isn't enough time to make multiple good ones), and prior to that they weren't getting enough cash to pay for a major league campaign staff, let alone major league advertisements and other communications.

 

[MRoCkEd]

Ron could have $100m and the incompetent people around him would find some way to piss it away and lose. sad but true

As Ron mentioned, they were extremely ill-prepared when the money started rolling in.
As I recall, they put forth a $6 million+ direct mail campaign in several states, but it didn't have as strong of an effect after the poor showings in Iowa/NH.
Next time around, they should be better prepared for money infusions and use them immediately in the first two states.

 

[Andrew-Austin]

I can't imagine how Paul would know whether or not he wanted to run again before 2011..

If we do get word that he wants to run again, could we get the libertarian and constitution parties to stand down and unite behind his campaign?

I don't think Ron Paul really wants to be POTUS because if he did I think he would have run a much more successful campaign. I think he would have won if he had really wanted to. I do think he wanted to stir up the dust and wake people up though.

If the power structure controlling this country is the same in 2012 as it is now, he'd almost definitely wind up as the next JFK.

But yeah, we can see it as another campaign for awareness.

 

[nate895]

As Ron mentioned, they were extremely ill-prepared when the money started rolling in.
As I recall, they put forth a $6 million+ direct mail campaign in several states, but it didn't have as strong of an effect after the poor showings in Iowa/NH.
Next time around, they will be better prepared for money infusions and use them immediately in the first two states.

We also need to give him the money months beforehand. The same thing happened in Lawson's campaign. We gave him more than 50% of his funds in one day a month before the General. The campaign couldn't possibly have prepared for that. What happened was they aired one really good ad.

 

[itshappening]

the sad thing is I think he'll probably run for the sake of it, for the people around him as much as anything and to utilize the mailing list

I still don't think it's a good idea though because they're incompetent and we need someone younger and with new ideas/energy

 

[Time for Change]

Can we fill the Campaign for Liberty coffers and have Ron use that for the initial launch of his campaign?
Is CFL a PAC?

Indeed we need an infusion of cash (and GOLD) far in advance of any campaign activity.
We need to be certain that RP will indeed run.

If he states that he is running, sign me up and I'll get to work immediately.
I am willing to set up direct deposits from every paycheck to the campaign, because this far in advance, we CAN make a difference if he is running.

The problem I foresee is alienation of people, just like the last campaign, with too much focus on the theories (substantiated or otherwise) that most of the general public is afraid to be associated with publicly.
Many people have thoughts on the 911 issues, but are not in any way willing to publicly state that fact and that fear leads many of them to disassociate themselves from any such public alliance.
It is fear, and justifiably so to some extent.

If we can tone down the theories and focus on the issues or currency, fiscal responsibility, limited government and freedom, we have a better shot.

For the most part most do not really understand the foreign policies we have in place now, but have been beaten about the noggin so much that they think we actually NEED to be so aggressive.
That notion is very hard to correct and in some cases is better left unsaid in favor of gradual introduction to non intervention thinking.

Finally, in this short version of my thoughts, we will have a tremendous mountain to climb if he runs.
This election has proven that there are astronomical numbers of uninformed voters voting emotion rather than issues.
With any luck, the empty rhetoric that the PE used to secure the election will be proven just that.
That could help with the partially aware crowd, but still leaves millions of uninformed people chomping at the bit to vote emotion.

That is where we have our work cut out.
Changing the thinking is hard work and doing so in a way as not to be offensive…well…lets just say it is exercise.

We will be doing lots of frustrating exercise, and we need all the lead time we can get if we are going to make a difference.

That said, I am not afraid of a challenge and I’m ready to serve, sign me up!!

 

[nate895]

Can we fill the Campaign for Liberty coffers and have Ron use that for the initial launch of his campaign?
Is CFL a PAC?

Indeed we need an infusion of cash (and GOLD) far in advance of any campaign activity.
We need to be certain that RP will indeed run.

If he states that he is running, sign me up and I'll get to work immediately.
I am willing to set up direct deposits from every paycheck to the campaign, because this far in advance, we CAN make a difference if he is running.

The problem I foresee is alienation of people, just like the last campaign, with too much focus on the theories (substantiated or otherwise) that most of the general public is afraid to be associated with publicly.
Many people have thoughts on the 911 issues, but are not in any way willing to publicly state that fact and that fear leads many of them to disassociate themselves from any such public alliance.
It is fear, and justifiably so to some extent.

If we can tone down the theories and focus on the issues or currency, fiscal responsibility, limited government and freedom, we have a better shot.

For the most part most do not really understand the foreign policies we have in place now, but have been beaten about the noggin so much that they think we actually NEED to be so aggressive.
That notion is very hard to correct and in some cases is better left unsaid in favor of gradual introduction to non intervention thinking.

Finally, in this short version of my thoughts, we will have a tremendous mountain to climb if he runs.
This election has proven that there are astronomical numbers of uninformed voters voting emotion rather than issues.
With any luck, the empty rhetoric that the PE used to secure the election will be proven just that.
That could help with the partially aware crowd, but still leaves millions of uninformed people chomping at the bit to vote emotion.

That is where we have our work cut out.
Changing the thinking is hard work and doing so in a way as not to be offensive…well…lets just say it is exercise.

We will be doing lots of frustrating exercise, and we need all the lead time we can get if we are going to make a difference.

That said, I am not afraid of a challenge and I’m ready to serve, sign me up!!

CFL isn't a PAC, and even if it was, at most it could donate $5,000, if it donated to five other candidates and has existed for six months. Benton said that they would make a decision by mid-next year, that will give them enough time to raise money.

 

[Time for Change]

CFL isn't a PAC, and even if it was, at most it could donate $5,000, if it donated to five other candidates and has existed for six months. Benton said that they would make a decision by mid-next year, that will give them enough time to raise money.

Keep us posted...I'll be the first to sign up.

 

[Jeremy]

I can't imagine how Paul would know whether or not he wanted to run again before 2011..

If we do get word that he wants to run again, could we get the libertarian and constitution parties to stand down and unite behind his campaign?



If the power structure controlling this country is the same in 2012 as it is now, he'd almost definitely wind up as the next JFK.

But yeah, we can see it as another campaign for awareness.

they did that in 2008...

 

[Number19]

...
If we do get word that he wants to run again, could we get the libertarian and constitution parties to stand down and unite behind his campaign?...

I'm just one guy offering his opinion, but as a lifetime member of the LP, I'll say that the LP would support Ron Paul.

 

[Cinderella]

woot woot!! bump!

 

[t0rnado]

If we want Ron Paul to win in 2012, we have to sink the GOP by 2010. We need to get every last one of the idiotic chairman out of office. If we crush all of the roaches in the GOP, Ron Paul will win in 2012.

The religious right and the neocons have to be kicked out of the party before Ron Paul or any other libertarian can ever win the nomination. Those two groups have raped the GOP since Reagan started pandering to them. The insecure morons who think they're patriotic because they hail the flag or 'support' the troops need to be thrown out of the GOP.

A line has to be drawn and people have to be shown that the current GOP isn't conservative before Ron Paul can win.

 

[Flirple]

The only other person I could see both appealing to a diverse coalition AND evoking the level of passion that Ron did would be Judge Andrew Napolitano running as a Republican. If he doesn't want to do it, then Ron Paul is the only thing that will cause a sizable stir in the next presidential election cycle. Anyone else will be a step to the side or even a step back instead of a step forward.

Bombs away!

$$$$$$$$$$

Yes, if we knew sometime next year that Ron or the Judge was going to run then we could immediately plan an epic money bomb that would really turn heads going into the first debate. This would let the campaign really hit the ground running instead of begging and pleading to be allowed into the early debates, forums, interviews, etc.

 

[trey4sports]

another thing to remember is that (on average) the amount of people currently using the internet to get information is suppose to double ever four years for the next 20 years (cant remember the source) so our numbers on the internet could certainly play a larger role in 2012

 

[jrich4rpaul]

He needs to run. He opened millions of eyes and broke major records in 2008, imagine what he could do next time with the momentum he has now.

 

[ClayTrainor]

I'm just one guy offering his opinion, but as a lifetime member of the LP, I'll say that the LP would support Ron Paul.

god i hope so.

I'm hoping that all of the 3rd parties would consider rallying behind Paul. It's definitely possible, as he reaches accross the aisle.

he mentioned Kucinich as a possible running mate during the primaries, he appeared on CNN with Nader to discuss why people shouldn't vote for the 2 parties. He is responsible for uniting all 3rd party candidates (except Barr) at a conference.

Hopefully he has earned the respect of those who ideologically disagree with him. It isn't about idealogies anymore, it's about stopping these criminals from taking over!

 

[2_Thumbs_Up]

Ron is so convinced of the ideas that he will run as long as he feels he has the support. Be sure to make him know you want him to run.

 

[Magsec]

A final stand for liberty behind a man who might be on his last legs in 2012? Sign me up!

 

[coffeewithchess]

If he runs again, and wastes more than $30 million dollars to end up promoting a book, I'm going to be ticked off again...but if he runs and actually is trying to win, and I volunteer time at his campaign office and actually see workers working, that will be a different story. For him to run again and for me to support him, I would have to see him as serious and actually wanting to be President for CHANGE. More than $30 million raised, yet not one single national campaign ad to raise awareness about anything...only crappy quality commercials like in NH. If Lew Moore is anywhere in his campaign, I won't donate one penny to the campaign...same with Jesse Benton, I don't care if he is part of the family now.