RIP: Charlie Kirk Assassinated at Event in Utah

If violence is never the answer, why was Hitler and so many others killed? If violence was never the answer, Trump would not be bragging about blowing up foreign ships in international waters.

Hitler wasn't killed. He escaped to Argentina.

I think what you are suggesting though is that there are moral justifications for violence and that is defined in our shared culture's moral code.

What you are missing though is the people doing this and apparently a large percentage of the population are cultural nihilists.

So the morality of defending yourself or your nation has no meaning to them.

So you could argue to the cultural nhilist that war against the Nazi Germany government which is a separate group of people was morally correct because that group of people was at war with our group of people.

The cultural nihilism people would just say that your group of people don't exist because I dont believe in your group of people so you have no right to defend it.
 
It followed in Grok's footprints. It's a nazibot now. Mechahitler II.

George Washington in his farewell address argued for the idea of the nation and that it was necessary for the survival of the United States.

This idea that we have to be one group to survive predates anything like a nazi Germany.

John Adams argued that a religion which would provide a shared culture was necessary so that people would be united.

Some people say thats why we added an additional national motto beyond the original out of many, one and that was one nation under god.

The enemy is inside the gates.
 


Go on, then, do something about it. Words are violence, remember?

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While Jesus was forgiving the Roman soldiers who were hammering the nails through his hands and feet, others stood by and said: "He saved others," they said, "but he can't save himself! He's the King of Israel! Let him come down now from the cross, and we will believe in him." (Matthew 27:42) The satanic spirit manifests with exactly the same fingerprint in every generation. When you follow the example of Jesus and forgive your enemies as he forgave them, the satanic spirit will spit on you, mock you and curse you for that very act.

I pray for this person's soul, only God knows their fate, but this is an instructive example that shows what reprobation looks like. The damnation of the damned is utter damnation...
 


If you can't see the spiritual warfare that is unfolding over the globe today... pull your head out of the sand and wake up....
 
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"100% conclusive proof".

I'd be horrible on a jury because I don't see a goddam thing in any of these videos.

Although I do see what seems to be blood splatter.

 
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Lots of people saying that it looks like an exit wound.

Also saying that profuse bleeding is associated with an exit wound, I would imagine that there are exceptions, striking a major vein/artery.

Then again the only info we have regarding the actual injury is based on the bizarre statement from Andrew Kolvet.
 


As always, they miss the point.

Charlie Kirk's assassination is one of the clearest pictures of the death of Jesus, in modern affairs. Charlie Kirk was a sinner, saved by grace. But from every report I have seen, Charlie actually walked the walk, he didn't just talk the talk, as so many do. Of all the people who apply the label "Christian" to themselves, Charlie would be in the top 1% in terms of basic righteousness. There are 99 of us who deserve to be shot before a Charlie Kirk would deserve that. He's not innocent in the theological sense, before God, but he's an innocent in the civil sense, and a righteous and upright man. As believers, we hold that to be absent with the body is to present with the Lord. Charlie Kirk is in a much better place today, so his assassination was no loss to him, personally. But the costs, when they are all counted, are staggering beyond imagination. What has been done to Erika is the most cruel injustice imaginable, to have her truly idyllic family snatched from her just as she was starting out, to have her husband brutally shot and murdered right before her, and her children who, by the way, are so young that they will hardly remember Charlie, if at all. When the shot was fired, one of her children was trying to run to Charlie because they were scared of the loud sound from the gun.

The Left doubling down with this, "We should shoot Erika, too"-rhetoric goes to show that they are completely reprobate and beyond the pale. God alone knows the extent of his mercy and we do not know which of these people God has plans already to break their rebellion and bring them to true repentance in Jesus Christ. Nevertheless, words of this nature are surely straight from the pit of Hell itself: "The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole person, sets the whole course of his life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell." (James 3:6)

This man was murdered in cold blood, not because "words are violence", but because violence is violence, and violent men surrounded Charlie Kirk. "Many bulls surround me; strong bulls of Bashan encircle me." (Psalm 22:12) They surrounded him for exactly the same reasons that the Pharisees surrounded Jesus. People often forget that there were many attempts on Jesus's life before he was ultimately betrayed, arrested and crucified. Obviously, we give all glory to God that he made Charlie Kirk one of his sheep, and taught him to exemplify the teachings of Jesus as a beacon of light to a generation trapped in darkness. Nevertheless, Charlie Kirk himself deserves praise for his exemplary obedience and devotion to God. Because of this, Charlie Kirk's death is a martyr's death...
 
"100% conclusive proof".

I'd be horrible on a jury because I don't see a goddam thing in any of these videos.

Although I do see what seems to be blood splatter.


He's got a good argument. You can see something that could resemble blood come out of the back of his head before the big wound on the left side of his neck appears.
 
While Jesus was forgiving the Roman soldiers who were hammering the nails through his hands and feet, others stood by and said: "He saved others," they said, "but he can't save himself! He's the King of Israel! Let him come down now from the cross, and we will believe in him." (Matthew 27:42) The satanic spirit manifests with exactly the same fingerprint in every generation. When you follow the example of Jesus and forgive your enemies as he forgave them, the satanic spirit will spit on you, mock you and curse you for that very act.

I pray for this person's soul, only God knows their fate, but this is an instructive example that shows what reprobation looks like. The damnation of the damned is utter damnation...
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As I have explained on this forum and elsewhere, the scene of the Romans holding Jesus and Barabbas in chains before the crowd, while the Jews chanted, "Crucify him! Crucify him!" is one of the most powerful portraits in Scripture of the damnation of the damned. This is a spiritual teaching, not a literal one -- some who were in that crowd later heard Peter's Pentecost Day sermon and were cut to the heart, and asked "What shall we do to be saved?" and accepted Jesus as their Savior (Acts 2). Nevertheless, the crowd itself chanting "Give us Barabbas!" is a picture of the damned in their damnation, because they actively reject the only One who could lead them out of hell. Truly, "the gate to hell is locked from the inside"...
 
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