IMPORTANT! Why Ron Paul Must NEVER Run as an Independent.

[FindLiberty]

Election laws suck in ILL-n-NOISE

Sore Loser Law - One Bite at the Apple

CORRECTION : this applies only to state not federal

I don't know if this may stop RP from 3rd
party, or even a write-in. Many states have an
election law" or two, or three, ...or a zillion:
Ya can't run in Nov (another party) unless
ya win in da Primary! (for that election
cycle)

I'm not sure about this law, and
it may not even apply since it's designed

CORRECTION : this applies only to state not federal

to prevent "minor" parties ballot access
when the local political machine crushes 'em
the FIRST time. GOP is not minor, but it may
soon be chopped and diced %-o

WHO EVER GET ELECTED TAKES THE BLAME
for the mess/war we are in/headed deeper into...
So, the democratic party takes the blame? ;-)

Maybe the LP will rise from those ashes in 2012,
if there are humans living (above ground) by then.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Newspapers leave Ron Paul off of the list of candidates!
Fughgettaboutit? NEVER! Next, Door-2-Door or done?

 

[Revolution9]

That is defiantly one strategy, but you have to consider the possibility that the Republican party is too far gone to save.

Then let's bury the corpse and give birth to the child. We have an obstetrician on duty. Get the coroner to sign the death certificate and let's roll.

Best
Randy

 

[Mortikhi]

As long as it takes. Unfortunately this is not a war that can won overnight. The sooner we realize this, the sooner we can all come up with practical ideas for our movement.

Have fun then. I won't raise my children in this country if it keeps the course she is presently on.

 

[Revolution9]

You GOP Loyalists are really desperate aren't you?

You keep telling us how we need to change the party, stay the course, blah blah blah. You keep pointing to other failures of third parties and that they have no chance of success and somehow that means we shouldn't bother.

I can see that it was a mistake to align with you folks. You only know one thing. Keep the masses polarized and off balance. Good luck with that.

You can pull up your drawers and stop bleating tomfoolery from your rectum now.

HTH
Randy

 

[Feenix566]

If Ron Paul does not get the Republican nomination and does not run independent...then he has no chance of ever becoming U.S President...unless he wants and is physicaly able to do so in 2012 at the age of 76.

This isn't about Ron Paul. It's about the message.

As Dr. Paul has said himself many times, he's just one man. It's the message that matters.

 

[MayTheRonBeWithYou]

You can pull up your drawers and stop bleating tomfoolery from your rectum now.

HTH
Randy

If you don't like talk about an iNDY run, you better not come back after Feb 6th, because the momentum is already starting to build, and anti-independent trolls like you will be marginalized sooner than you can imagine.

The tide is already shifting.

Ron is 72 years old. It's this year or never.

On to the White House!!

 

[nullvalu]

Have fun then. I won't raise my children in this country if it keeps the course she is presently on.

No offense man, but you sound pretty apathetic. I URGE you to take a little time and watch this video, it sealed my convictions to stand up and do something. G. Edward Griffin's analogy on apathy in this video is spot-on. Please watch it and let me know if you feel any different after viewing.. Big thanks to torchbearer for sharing this link with me yesterday.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6015291679758430958

 

[tamor]

Remember Ron Paul has run for a third party and knows how bias this country is against a third party candidate.

 

[John P Slevin]

illogical

You can pull up your drawers and stop bleating tomfoolery from your rectum now.

HTH
Randy

Or, Revolution9, you simply can acquaint yourself with some simple facts of life. Start with the one which tells ANY logical, sentient being that Ron Paul NEVER had a chance for the GOP nomination...then, go from there.

Of course, you will not take the logical course, will you.

 

[sutt205]

Too messy

There is not even a question about this as far as I'm concerned. If Dr. Paul doesn't get the nomination it is over for him unless he runs 3rd party. We all know we will get more exposure if that happens than if it doesn't. Win or lose it helps the message if he runs all the way through the general election.

I do agree that are best chance for change in the long run is over running the GOP. The people who are against this are thinking about it the wrong way. It isn't about what the GOP is today but what it will become if our message of freedom becomes the platform. The GOP is in shambles because of its idealology. It is just sitting there ready for us to storm in and take it. When we do take it over I suggest putting a RP in front of the GOP. RPGOP How do you like us now.

 

[Revolution9]

The GOP Trolls and Hacks are getting desperate, people! You know what this means. They see the writing on the wall.

Soon Ron will launch his independent run and change the country forever!!

Ya know something junior. I ain't no Republican hack. Did not like Reagan or Bush or Bush or Dole or McCain or any of the SOB's. But I love Ron Paul. The only politician worth supporting on the entire planet. I was basically ant-political.. I understood the whole system since 1981 and what they were up to and watched them do it step by step. You keep harping on with the same broken record third party bullsht. You are a youngster.. You will get crushed and marginalised and eventually give up as a third paruy. You will get nowhere and it will take you forty years to do so. but that doesn't matter to your peabrained bb in a boxcar mentality. You think we should all sacrifice our treasure and time so that some stupid egotripper can have his peurile wet dream of a third party run..just to show them who is boss. Well, what you will show them is your ass for a firm and lasting boot to the curb.

You wanna stick it to the man. Become the man. A third party is simply the teenager in the mailroom. So..before you go shooting your piehole off again with bogus proclamations of fictional futures and divisive rhetoric, grab a clue or two from those who were in the trenches while you were still crapping mustard in your diapers.

Randy

 

[Karsten]

My loyalty was NEVER to the Republican Party. I had to hold my nose to swtich to Republican to be able to vote for Ron Paul. I cannot wait until after February 5th when I can go back to being independent.

I was under the impression that the Ron Paul Revolution was an American Revolution, not a Republican Revolution.

 

[MayTheRonBeWithYou]

Or, Revolution9, you simply can acquaint yourself with some simple facts of life. Start with the one which tells ANY logical, sentient being that Ron Paul NEVER had a chance for the GOP nomination...then, go from there.

Of course, you will not take the logical course, will you.

Some of these anti-iNDY trolls either have no knowledge of the GOP and how it works, or they are literally trolls trying to derail Ron's independent run out of loyalty to that failing party. It's sad to see.

Also, by trolling against the iNDY run, they are causing average RP supporters to lose hope and leave us. If all your hopes are tied to this stupid, corrupt GOP primary, you get disheartened when RP doesn't win primaries. If your real goal is an independent run, then the primary losses never bother you at all, because you know you are working toward a larger goal.

The anti-iNDY folks will be put in their place soon enough. Have patience and watch what happens. The tide is already turning against them, so they have become openly desperate, as eveidenced by this thread.

 

[Menthol Patch]

I could care less about the Republican Party.

I do not support the Republican Party.

 

[seeker1]

Bleating tomfoolery?

You can pull up your drawers and stop bleating tomfoolery from your rectum now.

HTH
Randy

The GOP loyalists only care about their party and fear an independent run at the presidency. So where's the bleating tomfoolery?

I'm afraid you sound like the GOP sheep to me with your foolish talk.

Too funny. But I just don't get it.

 

[Karsten]

I could care less about the Republican Party.

I do not support the Republican Party.

+1

 

[skiingff]

Look, I've been a member of the Libertarian Party for 2 years. Way before I even knew who Ron Paul was. I, too, won't vote for a candidate unless I agree with his or her general philosophy.

However, I realize the Libertarian Party is mostly an educational organization, and doesn't run advertisements to expand its base, etc. The 2 main parties, however, have hundreds of PACs and organizations dedicated to funding and electing their respective candidates.

I will remain a member of the LP for principle, but until we take over the Republican Party and change the election laws, the laws will always be biased against 3rd parties and make it impractical to run as one.

That's why we need to register R and do our part to change the party. The party is dying, the older neocons won't be here forever, and it'll be wide open for the taking.

That's my .02

 

[seeker1]

Same here.

My loyalty was NEVER to the Republican Party. I had to hold my nose to swtich to Republican to be able to vote for Ron Paul. I cannot wait until after February 5th when I can go back to being independent.

I was under the impression that the Ron Paul Revolution was an American Revolution, not a Republican Revolution.

I was under that same impression.

the Ron Paul Revolution is an American Revolution, not a Republican Revolution!

 

[Bilgefisher]

I could care less about the Republican Party.

I do not support the Republican Party.

Same here, but I simply don't get why everyone thinks he'll run independent. You support the man because he is honest and sticks to his guns. Then why in the hell do you think he will go against what he has said 100 times. He will not run as an independent. Perhaps I missed something here, but he seems to have spelled it out pretty clearly.

 

[Karsten]

It's amazing to me the loyalty that some of you have to the Republican Party. Please remember, though, that the majority of Ron Paul supporters are Independents, or come from another party who switched over to vote for Ron Paul. Most of us couldn't care less about the Republican Party. If the Republican Party died tomorrow I couldn't care less.