Immigration & Welfare

[TheCount]

And the Cultural and Political detriments, which will lead to economic disaster.

So you say.

Where do the Immigrants come from? Foreign Countries.

Does the immigration of a person involve the permission of the foreign government for their serf to depart?

Or does every involvement with "human filth" require the involvement of the federal government to police the matter?

 

[Swordsmyth]

Does the immigration of a person involve the permission of the foreign government for their serf to depart?

Irrelevant, that is their problem, The would be Immigrant is a foreigner, therefore his relationship to the U.S. is a FOREIGN RELATIONS matter.

Or does every involvement with "human filth" require the involvement of the federal government to police the matter?

No.

In case you did not understand, the "human filth" I was referring to were primarily the degenerate, statist "american" citizens of those states.

 

[P3ter_Griffin]

I'd rather the market decide who my neighbors and community members are rather than some central authority thank you very much. I'm not sure there is a better way to retard a given geographical location then to prevent the market's allocation of property within it.

 

[Zippyjuan]

SS, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, unemployment, other welfare...

ALL of it created before mass third world immigration, and a problem entirely regardless thereof.

You disappoint me Bill H. Giraffe.

I'm rooting for the lions.

Illegal immigrants aren't eligible for Federal government benefits. Legal immigrants have to wait five years to become eligible.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Illegal immigrants aren't eligible for Federal government benefits. Legal immigrants have to wait five years to become eligible.

And no shootings ever take place at schools, because they are "GUN FREE ZONES".

 

[timosman]

Illegal immigrants aren't eligible for Federal government benefits. Legal immigrants have to wait five years to become eligible.

How many times does this need to be debunked?

 

[Zippyjuan]

How many times does this need to be debunked?

Medicare: http://www.mymedicare.com/medicare-eligibility/

Certain groups of individuals born outside of the United States can be eligible for Medicare coverage. No illegal aliens are allowed to collect Medicare benefits. Those who are legal aliens in the United States and have lived in the country for at least five years continuously may be Medicare eligible but need to contact a local Medicare office for specific eligibility information as it can vary from person to person.

SNAP (food stamps): https://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/snap-policy-non-citizen-eligibility

Immigrant Eligibility Requirements

The 2002 Farm Bill restores SNAP eligibility to most legal immigrants that:

Have lived in the country for 5 years; or
Are receiving disability-related assistance or benefits; or
Children under 18

Certain non-citizens such as those admitted for humanitarian reasons and those admitted for permanent residence may also eligible for the program. Eligible household members can get SNAP benefits even if there are other members of the household that are not eligible.

(See Policy on Immigrants for information on qualified alien categories and eligibility) (See also SNAP Guidance on Non-Citizen Eligibility)

Non-citizens that are in the U.S. temporarily, such as students, are not eligible.

Social Security: http://econofact.org/do-undocumented-immigrants-overuse-government-benefits

Undocumented immigrants are not eligible to receive Social Security benefits even though many contribute to the system. Many undocumented immigrants work in the formal sector and contribute to the social security trust fund. Estimates suggest that up to $12 billion per year are contributed by undocumented immigrants and their employers. Most undocumented immigrants will never draw from the system. One hypothetical exception is that if the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program lasts long enough and participants pay into the system, they would eventually be eligible for benefits, but the first payouts in this hypothetical eventuality are nearly three decades away. Other immigrants who transition to legal status can also collect benefits based on their contribution history, even if some of their contributions were made while unauthorized.

 

[timosman]

Can somebody publish a link to a post to refresh Zippy's memory?

 

[Danke]

Can somebody publish a link to a post to refresh Zippy's memory?

Why bother, the Democrats post here to disrupt.

They will only quote a Libertarian or Ron Paul if it somehow bolster they point.

 

[oyarde]

I did not vote . What I would support is zero to highly restricted immigration until there is zero Federal welfare of any kind and a balanced budget.

 

[TheCount]

Irrelevant, that is their problem, The would be Immigrant is a foreigner, therefore his relationship to the U.S. is a FOREIGN RELATIONS matter.

If every interaction with a foreigner is a foreign relations matter, then no American may interact with a foreigner without the permission and involvement of the federal government. Is that what you're saying should be the case?

 

[BamaAla]

Build that wall!

 

[Swordsmyth]

If every interaction with a foreigner is a foreign relations matter, then no American may interact with a foreigner without the permission and involvement of the federal government. Is that what you're saying should be the case?

No it is their Relationship to the Nation as a whole, you know good and well that wanting to naturalize is not an interaction with a private party.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Immigrants bad. Will everybody who either is an immigrant themselves or descended from an immigrant please leave.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Immigrants bad. Will everybody who either is an immigrant themselves or descended from an immigrant please leave.

I think [MENTION=27246]oyarde[/MENTION] might agree with you.
But that is not what anyone has said here. Unrestricted Immigration is destructive. Controlled Immigration is positive if it is controlled properly.

 

[timosman]

I think [MENTION=27246]oyarde[/MENTION] might agree with you.
But that is not what anyone has said here. Unrestricted Immigration is destructive. Controlled Immigration is positive if it is controlled properly.

To make things easier for libtards. Imagine a dildo with an uncontrolled stroke...

 

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Illegal immigrants aren't eligible for Federal government benefits. Legal immigrants have to wait five years to become eligible.

Zip, you are lying, we have been over this and repeating your lies does not make them true.

 

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Immigrants bad. Will everybody who either is an immigrant themselves or descended from an immigrant please leave.

You first Juan.

I am native, I was born here as were the last 7 generations of my family. This our Nation, it belongs to us, not the rest of the world, and not to fools who would piss it way to alien hordes. Do not like it? LEAVE.

I know its upsetting your lies are not being believed but that is your fault, you told lies that were to grand to be believed, you went to war with reaility and you lost, as if their was any outcome other then that.

 

[Zippyjuan]

You first Juan.

I am native, I was born here as were the last 7 generations of my family. This our Nation, it belongs to us, not the rest of the world, and not to fools who would piss it way to alien hordes. Do not like it? LEAVE.

I know its upsetting your lies are not being believed but that is your fault, you told lies that were to grand to be believed, you went to war with reaility and you lost, as if their was any outcome other then that.

It is everybody's Nation. It was created by immigrants and built by immigrants. My ancestors have been in the US at least as long as the Revolutionary war. We nearly all descend from immigrants. If immigrants are bad, we should all leave. Without immigration, almost none of us would be here and instead living in socialist Europe. If you do not like it here, you are certainly free to live someplace else.

 

[oyarde]

I think [MENTION=27246]oyarde[/MENTION] might agree with you.
But that is not what anyone has said here. Unrestricted Immigration is destructive. Controlled Immigration is positive if it is controlled properly.

Sometimes you have to wonder what the real agenda is of dirty , fake libertarians wanting all these dirty immigrants . They can pretend they want a free society where people can travel as they wish but they are not fooling me . What they really want is more tax money collected and being blown to support deadbeats . There will be no trespassers here .