If we could buy 1000 acres or more, who would join us?

[Deborah K]

Southern Idaho?

 

[klamath]

Okay.

You are soon going to find out why so Dam*ed many liberals moved to Cali and ruined the laws. We have one hell of a grand state geographically, and agriculturally and climatology wise. All the land requirements boxes get checked in a heartbeat here in Cali but it is the people and laws that wreak a great state.

 

[klamath]

Southern Idaho?

Too dry. you want to be in lower to med section of the panhandle.

 

[Deborah K]

You are soon going to find out why so Dam*ed many liberals moved to Cali and ruined the laws. We have one hell of a grand state geographically, and agriculturally and climatology wise. All the land requirements boxes get checked in a heartbeat here in Cali but it is the people and laws that wreak a great state.

I know. I live in the best possible situation there is right now. We have land, a big house, small town in the mountains, only a few ways in. Perfect Jericho situation. Plus - it's Cali! Beaches, desert, snow, all within a 30-40 minute drive from our town. All around perfect climate. I was hoping to live my life out here.

 

[torchbearer]

jericho seems like a nice town.
anyone have a nuclear fallout map?

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

As to intentional communities, buy next to - yes. Good, but some of that should go to communal facilities. Consider:

If a bunch of ppl got together on an order from Waltons, a semi worth, the price drops big time. Especially shipping costs.

Consider your average suburban block. Every yahoo on the street has their own lawn mower. Most have a weed eater too. Why? If people pooled funds they could get a ride-able mower and a back hoe for whats invested in all this redundant stuff.

What about workshops? Every house has a similar number of tools. a hammer, a set of screw drivers, an electric drill and bits, a table saw... sure it's going to vary, but pooling fund would give an incredible shop. A machine shop, the ability to cast, welding several different ways, etc.

And a common gathering area, ideally with a cafeteria would go a long way. Meeting space, etc.

Most of us shoot. Would it be better to establish a shooting range that will catch bullets, or for each family to be shooting in their own back yard? With possible stray rounds trespassing onto neighbors land...

Separate, but together.

What I'd put at #1 priority would be some significant water running through the property so electricity could be generated via hydro-electric.

Access to Internet is another thing most people would want, but something that's going to be hard to find the farther out in the boonies it is.

-t

 

[tod evans]

Access to Internet is another thing most people would want, but something that's going to be hard to find the farther out in the boonies it is.

They're pullin' subsidized fiber way out in the sticks.....

Depends on the area.

 

[Czolgosz]

You are soon going to find out why so Dam*ed many liberals moved to Cali and ruined the laws. We have one hell of a grand state geographically, and agriculturally and climatology wise. All the land requirements boxes get checked in a heartbeat here in Cali but it is the people and laws that wreak a great state.

Too true.

 

[Deborah K]

They're pullin' subsidized fiber way out in the sticks.....

Depends on the area.

They've been advertising what looks to be satellite internet for people who live in the sticks. I'll pay attention to the name next time.

 

[The Northbreather]

As to intentional communities, buy next to - yes. Good, but some of that should go to communal facilities. Consider:

If a bunch of ppl got together on an order from Waltons, a semi worth, the price drops big time. Especially shipping costs.


-t

Yup. This is what I said a few posts back.

Adjacent land good, full on communal bad.

 

[tod evans]

They've been advertising what looks to be satellite internet for people who live in the sticks. I'll pay attention to the name next time.

I know several folks who went back to dial-up instead of satellite...

I don't have any firsthand experience.

 

[torchbearer]

They've been advertising what looks to be satellite internet for people who live in the sticks. I'll pay attention to the name next time.

satellite internet is slightly better than dial-up but worse than all other forms.
if we had such a community, i'd pay to have at least T1 brought to town, everyone could barter/pay for internet access from my switch.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

knew a guy a while back that set up a business in the sticks of NY once. They paid fairly handsomely to have a T1 line put in. The local school district wanted a feed. So did all the neighbors... So this Internet consulting firm suddenly found themselves in the ISP biz with no competitors...

There is another intentional community in VA that's like a arts co-op. They make stuff and sell it, but they also have classes and sell memberships to locals to use the facilities. This really makes sense if you are talking about building kilns, etc.

-t

 

[klamath]

They've been advertising what looks to be satellite internet for people who live in the sticks. I'll pay attention to the name next time.

There are several. I am on wild blue. Big drawback is bandwidth 15 GB a month but free if you surf between 12am and 5am. I can't watch a lot of youtube unless I get up before 5am. My brother installs wild blue systems.

 

[Tod]

They've been advertising what looks to be satellite internet for people who live in the sticks. I'll pay attention to the name next time.

There are quite a few of those. Search satellite internet and you'll find them. As with other satellite service, you need a clear line of sight to the satellite and heavy rain or snow can interfere with the signal...

 

[klamath]

satellite internet is slightly better than dial-up but worse than all other forms.
if we had such a community, i'd pay to have at least T1 brought to town, everyone could barter/pay for internet access from my switch.

2 GB up 12gb down.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

satellite internet is slightly better than dial-up but worse than all other forms.
if we had such a community, i'd pay to have at least T1 brought to town, everyone could barter/pay for internet access from my switch.

The sat Internet systems I've seen have been expensive on a per-month basis. The download was from the sat and was reasonably fast, but upload was via POTS and slow. It also tended to go out whenever it rained.

-t

 

[torchbearer]

There are several. I am on wild blue. Big drawback is bandwidth 15 GB a month but free if you surf between 12am and 5am. I can't watch a lot of youtube unless I get up before 5am. My brother installs wild blue systems.

also, no streaming services like netflix/amazon or pandora. the info comes in burst, not steady streams.
youtubes, you can at least pause an let buffer. though limited by bandwidth bucket.
you won't be able to use any of your on demand movies either if you have such services on a satellite/cable provider.

 

[Deborah K]

I guess we need to figure out what our needs are law wise too:

guns
permitting structures
water and natural resource rights
homeschooling
farming/ranching
independent power via turbine; solar; natural gas; biogasification
taxes (if no state tax, how high is property tax?)
federal land -


what else?

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

There are several. I am on wild blue. Big drawback is bandwidth 15 GB a month but free if you surf between 12am and 5am. I can't watch a lot of youtube unless I get up before 5am. My brother installs wild blue systems.

Get a download manager and queue it to start at midnight.

-t