If Trump runs in 2024, I'll vote for him.

[surf]

That was congress, and Trump vetoed the last NDAA to prove it.
They overrode the veto just as they would have for every other bill people wanted him to veto instead of negotiating.

Trump reduced the size and scope of government everywhere he could.

put the crackpipe away. if your hero had any balls or principles or any fucking clue, he'd have used that veto

 

[PAF]

Objectively Trump has moved us closer towards socialism. I think most people would agree that if you had to pick one trait of socialism it's the size of government.

And it skyrocketed under Trump.

Obama (in trillions)

3.4
3.6
3.5
3.4
3.5
3.6
3.8
3.9

Trump
4.1
4.4
6.5
7.2

It's effing embarrassing

That was congress, and Trump vetoed the last NDAA to prove it.
They overrode the veto just as they would have for every other bill people wanted him to veto instead of negotiating.

Trump reduced the size and scope of government everywhere he could.

put the crackpipe away. if your hero had any balls or principles or any $#@!ing clue, he'd have used that veto

He was too busy to veto anything because he was behind closed with known eugenist Bill Gates, creating a new Federal Agency (Operation Warp Speed), and staffing it with Gates/Pharmaceutical Executives on the tax payer dime. Something something about Nationalizing Medicine, which “republicans” were always opposed to under demoncrats, until he [DJT-R] came into office.

 

[pcosmar]

Going to vote against Democrats.

Because No body could be worse than what we have.

 

[John-G]

He was pretty good at neutering the EPA and got us out of the W.H.O., which Biden almost immediately undid as soon as he took office. Gains in some areas, losses in others. Perhaps mildly better than losses in all areas. Really don't see the republicans offering up anything that isn't going to be full blown neocon though.

Would like to see Rand Paul run again in the primary 2024 but damned if I'm gonna watch another liberty candidate drop-out before the finish line. We either need to be in it to win it or STFU IMO.

Pretty much everyone has had a good lesson in monetary inflation over the past few years so it might be hip to talk about the Fed again.

He got us out of the WHO while continuing to fund their favored vaccine makes in the tune of billions. He also got us out of the Paris climate agreement while continuing to push subsidies that promoted green energy, EPA emission standards weren't repelled and the executive order "CO2 endangerment finding" was also left in place.

Regardless of all of that, had he been able to rein in Dr. Fauci, he would have gotten my vote. But to see that medical tyrant walk all over him and the American people the way he did, made voting for him ever again a big NO. He did a lot of semi good but he didn't do enough to deserve my vote.

The only mainstream person I will vote for is Ron DeSantis. He is no where close to perfect but he is a step in the right direction

 

[Anti-Neocon]

[h=2]Trump vetoes defense bill, setting up showdown with Congress[/h]https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/23/trump-ndaa-veto-defense-bill-450286

Another thread, another bad faith argument in defense of your idol.

Even in the link that you linked, it describes what Trump had problem with in the bill. Hint: it had nothing to do with military spending (or spending in general), and the thing he threw the biggest fit about (removing Section 230) would've made a bad thing worse.

 

[dannno]

Cackling like she's drunk at a bachelorette party at the State of the Union is pretty bad. There is a certain way to behave as an adult. She does not pass the test. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...en-boebert-marjorie-taylor-greene/9337266002/

Believing there is an anonymous insider named Q who is exposing secret pedophile rings is permanently disqualifying. https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...-promoted-pizzagate-said-charlottesville-was/

I would vote for every single generic Republican over her. Ideally I would like to see more generic Republicans. Fewer AOCs and MTGs. More serious people who nobody knows about because they are not trying to be online influencers.

Can you show me the post where she specifically said that she believed in Q? Q put out out a lot of really good information that ended up coming out 1-2 years later about how the Clinton campaign funded Russiagate, etc. Just because she posted something Q related doesn't mean she believed in Q.

You haven't shown us anything about her actual policies or her time in congress. She has a congressional history, and it is far better than the generic Republicans who vote for all kinds of spending, including war spending. MTG is a non-interventionist, so if you want some generic Republican who is down to murder people on the other side of the globe instead of one who is actually conservative like Thomas Massie, then you are a sick person.

And as far as conspiracy theories go, The Hill article you posted said that she posted something about Charlottesville being a hoax. Well, it turns out the FBI helped fund the Azov Battalion, thanks to your generic Republican buddies, who then funded and aided Charlottesville. So she was right on that one, it has now been proven.

https://ncrenegade.com/fbi-funded-u...os-to-stoke-racial-division-destabilize-west/

 

[Anti-Neocon]

Like her or not, you can't escape the fact that MTG talks about some issues that other Republicans (outside of Massie and maybe a few others) would never be caught talking about to the public while taking the pro-liberty side. If you want to replace people like MTG with Republicans who take the opposite anti-liberty side just because they talk with an "intellectual" demeanor, then I have to wonder what you're trying to accomplish. The worst thing I can think of is that liberty haters will attach her to particular sides, but if nobody is to speak up in the first place there wouldn't even be a debate.

Name 10 Republican congresscritters who would be caught dead saying the phrase "unconstitutional Patriot Act" for instance.

 

[Swordsmyth]

He didn't veto that bill because it was too expensive. If anything it wasn't expensive enough for him.

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CDOC-116hdoc174/pdf/CDOC-116hdoc174.pdf

That was the only bill that he vetoed that was overridden. And that bill was for 2021.

That means that Trump approved ALL of the spending from 2016-2020. And that resulted in the doubling of the debt.

He vetoed it for many reasons, one of which was to prove any other vetoes would be overridden.
He most certainly did not approve of all the spending in it or the other bills.
By negotiating the others he was able to influence them more than if he just vetoed them.

 

[PAF]

He vetoed it for many reasons, one of which was to prove any other vetoes would be overridden.
He most certainly did not approve of all the spending in it or the other bills.
By negotiating the others he was able to influence them more than if he just vetoed them.

 

[Anti-Neocon]

He vetoed it for many reasons, one of which was to prove any other vetoes would be overridden.

Wow what a genious 4D chess power play! He demonstrated his powerlessness.

He most certainly did not approve of all the spending in it or the other bills.

Cuz Swordsmyth sed so?

By negotiating the others he was able to influence them more than if he just vetoed them.

Influence how, and to do what? Spend more?
https://www.americanprogress.org/article/trumps-defense-budget/

 

[Madison320]

He vetoed it for many reasons, one of which was to prove any other vetoes would be overridden.
He most certainly did not approve of all the spending in it or the other bills.
By negotiating the others he was able to influence them more than if he just vetoed them.

Again, he signed every single bill that covered his term and we doubled our spending.

Now we know why he calls himself "The King of Debt".

 

[vita3]

Fiscally Irresponsible for his entire life.

 

[acptulsa]

Fiscally Irresponsible for his entire life.

And he screwed us hard. These trolls want us to believe this is all Bidenflation because it didn't ramp up until around that New Year's. But these things are generally named for the originators. It's Trumpflation.

 

[Anti-Neocon]

And he screwed us hard. These trolls want us to believe this is all Bidenflation because it didn't ramp up until around that New Year's. But these things are generally named for the originators. It's Trumpflation.

I personally prefer Fedflation but Trump was behind pushing the Fed so...

 

[GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged]

And he screwed us hard. These trolls want us to believe this is all Bidenflation because it didn't ramp up until around that New Year's. But these things are generally named for the originators. It's Trumpflation.

Ron Paul and others have been preaching about out of control spending for many years. There are many including Trump to take the blame.

 

[GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged]

One thing I have noticed with the Biden administration is they really curbed the division and hate. Biden and Company has United the States once again. Trump was so divisive and now the USA is at peace. Way to go Brandon. We can't deal with 4 more years of Trump. He will tear this country apart. We need Diversity!!! Yea for Diversity!

 

[Jingles]

I would absolutely vote for Trump a 3rd time.

He pisses off all the right people. Can't be worse lol.

 

[kahless]

Coming here of all places and seeing that as a topic headline is most depressing. As if there are no other possibilities as large as the Ron Paul Revolution movement was.

I know Rand's campaign went in the wrong direction at the wrong time in 2016, effectively giving his opportunity to Trump but live and learn. Rand is still a far better choice than Trump for 2024.

Trump will not win the general with half of Republican's pissed off at the way he governed, without independents and no Democrats. It would be foolish to support Trump at this point.

 

[John-G]

Coming here of all places and seeing that as a topic headline is most depressing. As if there are no other possibilities as large as the Ron Paul Revolution movement was.

I know Rand's campaign went in the wrong direction at the wrong time in 2016, effectively giving his opportunity to Trump but live and learn. Rand is still a far better choice than Trump for 2024.

Trump will not win the general with half of Republican's pissed off at the way he governed, without independents and no Democrats. It would be foolish to support Trump at this point.

I would vote for just about anyone not named Trump. The man was a terrible president. Seeing how he let little ol chancellor Fauci walk all over him makes it virtually impossible for me to vote for him.

My mainstream candidate is Ron DeSantis at this moment, he not only annoyed the socialists with words like Trump, he also does that with actions unlike Trump.

 

[GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged]

Hands Down Thomas Massie would be greatest POTUS of all time.