If Cruz has the decency to select Rand as running mate...

I am probably going to vote for Sanders in the primary, as a vote against HRC. If Cruz wins, this is probably going to be one of the rare years when I vote for the GOP andidate because SCOTUS is in play, big time.

I don't see any significant difference between the GOP war platform and Her Royal Cinton's. But I do have hope that Cruz would appoint more conservative choices than she would. Maybe he won't. But I know damned straight she will not.

I always write in if i have too and refuse to vote lesser of two evils....but the scotus thing sure does have me considering at least
 
I am probably going to vote for Sanders in the primary, as a vote against HRC. If Cruz wins, this is probably going to be one of the rare years when I vote for the GOP andidate because SCOTUS is in play, big time.

I don't see any significant difference between the GOP war platform and Her Royal Cinton's. But I do have hope that Cruz would appoint more conservative choices than she would. Maybe he won't. But I know damned straight she will not.

Do what you must, but I agree that Sanders > Clinton. Hillary deserves to be chained to a gulag wall.
 
If Cruz wins, this is probably going to be one of the rare years when I vote for the GOP candidate because SCOTUS is in play, big time.

Can you elaborate? What makes you think that corrupt, bought out Cruz would ever place a good person in a position of power?
 
Can you elaborate? What makes you think that corrupt, bought out Cruz would ever place a good person in a position of power?

I'd give him some more credit than this. He's got a pretty strong legal background and is intelligent. Obama made great choices for nominees (as young and extreme left as possible) from a Liberal's perspective. I think Cruz would make equally strong choices for the conservative side.

It is a good point that this election year matters for no other reason than the SCOTUS. You don't want to see who Hillary or Bernie Sanders :eek: nominate do you?
 
Is the only conceivable way I'm voting for a Republican.... Other than that low possibility, I'm all in for Bernie Sanders ONLY AS A PROTEST VOTE FOR PEACE... If not for Bernie (I'm NOT a socialist. It's only a protest vote) I'm voting 3rd party

Bernie Sanders supported Clinton's intervention in Kosovo in 1999. When people protested against this, he had the protesters arrested.

Bernie Sanders has supported appropriations bills that funded interventionist policies in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Bernie Sanders does not support withdrawal from Iraq.

Bernie Sanders has supported aiding Israel in the Lebanon conflict, and has generally supported anything pro-Israel.

Bernie Sanders has supported Palestinian sanctions.

Bernie Sanders supported the Iran Freedom Support Act--sanctions and precursor steps to conflict in Iran.

Bernie Sanders supports Obama's Drone program.

Bernie Sanders supports intervention in Syria.

Bernie Sanders supported intervention in the Ukraine-Russia conflict, and has generally adopted hawkish language where Putin and Russia are concerned.

Bernie Sanders has basically supported Obama's foreign policy in general.

What military cuts as he proposed? None as far as I can tell.

Bernie is just as hawkish as anyone else. Voting for Bernie is not voting for peace.
 
how people are so dumb to think that sanders is a "peace" candidate is beyond me. Do you (OP) even pay attention to politics? The amount of disinformation is mind boggling. You would think with the internet the truth would become more prevalent, but alas, we have digressed.
 
Cruz is unlikely to be the nominee, he is not competitive in any states except a few southern states.
 
I dont think the GOP establishment will back Cruz, hes too polarizing on a national level. Plus hes Canadian. The lawsuits have already begun.

Rubio (the nothing) will get the establishment nod.

Fuck Socialist Sanders. Tired of hearing that fucker's name on these forums.
 
Cruz will not be the nominee. I predict Rubio (puke) and Kasich (double puke). I am so depressed today. I knew Rand was a long shot, but I did not expect him to drop out so soon. Why did he say he was going to NH the other night and then drop out. Did he get pressured?
 
I hope he doesn't select Rand as his running mate, because that will just destroy the liberty message even further when Rand is asked to campaign for the hypothetical Cruz/Paul ticket, supporting whatever Cruz stands for. *barf*
 
Guys, I already tried to save face by admitting that I didn't realize Sandere was so war like! It was my bad, you already proved it to me.... sorry I felt bad when you called out stupidity to those who think sanders is a peace candidate... I was ignorant, not stupid.. Again I'm saving face here, not admitting I'm stupid. I'm actually one of the best debators I've met as well my entire social circle... Doesn't mean I'm not prone to error and I never debate much on this forum simply due to agreeing so much with you all. I used to debate you guys about Israel UNTIL YOU SHOWED ME THE LIGHT (I was a neocon before 08 Ron Paul slowly but surely turned me into a full blow libertarian-the right leaning variety... So I used to support Israel on this site, but now I resent the hell out of Israel)... However I only extend that credit to this site. There is a plethora of BRAIN DEAD IDIOT IDEOLOGUES ON (the late) DailyPaul/"PopLib" who are just as dogmatic n closed minded as boobus Americanus neocon Hannity watching voters.... I'm near personal friends with Michael Medved (at least acquaintances, he knows me by face and name n have met several times in person) after being his most frequent caller over the last 10+ years (he is by far as the best neocon debater among mainstream conservative political pundits.. He used to whoop me.. For those who listen frequently you know A, he hardly ever loses debate, B, I'm "Lucas from Seattle-friend of the show") and I haven't lost a debate with him in over 6 years (well maybe 1-3xs out of 50 calls)... I've whooped Lars Larson 3xs of 3 calls n won't take my calls any more... I've been invited to do segmented debates with black nationalists Tariq Nasheed and Dr Umar Johnson etc....

This self defense post is petty, unnecessary n silly I know, i just don't take being called stupid lightly (I'm not resentful out of spite, I'm just proud of my intellectual, non emotional, rational mindset and want to be taken seriously) even though I could tell it wasn't personal...

Now I admit I should n probably will vote 3rd party like I did in 2012 after Ron dropped out. But I admit my words about voting for Bernie was emotional because I'm angry. On paper Cruz is solid (cummon he was against NDAA n regime change votes) BUT his spineless opportunism made me not trust him UNLESS he selects Rand Paul as VP.... Unlikely I know.... Even tho I am solid libertarian, if I'm forced to choose, I'd rather spend bankruptcy crushing debt money AT HOME or over seas killing humans to make an evil corporate elite rich, I'll choose domestic spending... But I just feel if a Bernie was elected, that may give Rand a chance in 4 years. If a neocon republican is voted in, Rand won't have another chance until he is his dad's age in 2012... All I know is without Rand as the VP, shit looks pretty bleak all around n I may just have to quit caring about politics n start some self help n self improvement hobbies lol... I'm an avid meditator (I do Buddhist Sadhanas as well as Transcendental Meditation twice a day AND THE LAST 3 DAYS HAVE BEEN THE MOST DIFFICULT DAYS OF MEDITATION IVE HAD! In other words I'm so stressed n upset that I can't enter the meditational "trance state" (called "samadhi" in sanskrit... It's the state that u need to be considered effective meditation)! That's pretty bad. Meditation is supposed to make me "let go" but if I can't even go into the "trance state" then I'm essentially "just sitting" with hardly any benefit. That's rare experience for me so shit is REALLY bothering me to my core:-/
 
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If one is willing to vote for a full blown Communist(Sanders) then they are NOT Libertarian, Conservative or Right leaning, period.
 
Would be smarter to pick Kasich.

Kasich is definitely in play as VP - with Carly as one of the right demographic but a disaster,
and Christie too much . . . uh . . . baggage and negotiating with dead middle east Kings planned.

Aside from everything else and the oxymoron of putting the word decency near TrusTed,
I ask if definitely Rand could be on the ballot as US Senator in Kentucky and as GOP Vice-President nominee of someone
in the same election - or not?
 
I would vote for a Cruz/Paul ticket. I doubt he would choose Rand since they're both first term senators but I would support it if he did.
 
Cruz will pick who ever Goldman Sachs tells his wife to tell Ted to pick. End of story.
 
Rand just needs to go back to the Senate and grind this fucking thing to a halt.

I almost hope Cruz wins so he can call him out on every flip-flop he pulls during his time as prez.

Bring the fucking house of cards down. I told him to go hardcore libertarian. Introduce End The Fed, repeal 16th & 17th, etc, etc. Send letters to EVERY Senator asking for co-sponsors and expose those who won't.

Bring the system to a halt.
 
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