Idea On How You Recruit Arabs To Rp

[max]

I don't want to hear any handwringing nonsense about how this flyer might be perceived as "anti-semitic." The language is not harsh, the facts are all true, and it is the only way you will even come close to gaining the trust of skeptical Arabs & Muslims who think all US politicians are untrustworthy liars.

This flyer flat out works and it was co-designed with a very educated Arab friend. By the way, DO NOT approach the Arab community without advice or you could make a fool of yourself. Many of them are actually Christian and you will piss them off if you assume they are Muslims, or if you assume that they are monolithic in their opinions, sub-cultures, etc).

You have no idea how hurt and afraid these good people are because of the media hate propaganda and the PATRIOT ACT. It took me a while to win their trust....so you have to do this right....here's a good flyer you can use to approach them with....******
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Who is Dr. Ron Paul, and why does the Jerusalem Post say he is “crazy?”

“On Israel itself, outside of the crazy Rep. Ron Paul, there is not too much difference between the (Presidential) candidates on support for Israel.”
- Jonathan Tobin, Jerusalem Post, July 9, 2007


WHAT DOES RON PAUL SAY ABOUT THE AMERICAN-ISRAEL LOBBY?

“I oppose certain groups having more of an influence than others, and since one of the main purposes of AIPAC (the Israel Lobby) is to lobby for generous taxpayer support for Israel, that portion of their influence will end under my administration.”

ABOUT THE NEO-CONSERVATIVES WHO CAUSED THE WAR?

"Neo-conservatives are in positions of influence and are well placed throughout our government and the media. .....They want to redraw the map of the Middle East and are willing to use force to do so. They believe in preemptive war to achieve desired ends..... They unconditionally support Israel and have a close alliance with the Likud Party."

FACTS ABOUT CONGRESSMAN RON PAUL

· Dr. Ron Paul believes in peace and trade with ALL nations.
· Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate who opposes financial and military aid for Israel.
· Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate that truly opposed the war in Iraq.
· Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate that wants to end the war immediately.
· Ron Paul opposed the PATRIOT ACT and will repeal it.
· Ron Paul opposed the Department of Homeland Security and wants to abolish it.
· Ron Paul has NEVER received money from the Israel lobby.
· Ron Paul has NEVER voted to increase taxes.

All Americans are welcome to volunteer for Congressman Ron Paul. To learn more about this honorable man, please visit www.RonPaul2008.com and make a generous donation.

This ad was created by a volunteer group of Ron Paul supporters. Copy and redistribute.

 

[DeadheadForPaul]

You really need to remove "Zionist Neo-conservatives"

This is going to feed fuel to the media fire and I can see this being on Fox news: "is Ron Paul tageting anti-semites and Jihadists?"

There is an appropriate way to reach out to the Arab population and you take it a little too far

I can tell you that by the number of Arabs that I've seen in meetup groups and in the facebook group, they're already getting the message...no need to reach out to the extremes. We'll get that vote

 

[Man from La Mancha]

Good idea, could someone from other different cultures make up these kind of flyers? Maybe in the native languages also. Would this also work for black people? It would also help me speak more knowledgeably to different groups about Ron.

 

[rich34]

That's a bit harsh imo. Ron Paul really doesn't need that. I see it being used against him. Not all of it, but some of the stuff in it.

 

[SeanEdwards]

Try and get an endorsement from Hamas?

 

[stevedasbach]

I think that two minor changes need to made to avoid having this backfire onRon's campaign:

ABOUT THE NEO-CONSERVATIVES WHO CAUSED THE WAR? (remove Zionist - Ron does not refer to neocons as Zionist)

Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate who opposes financial and military aid for all countries, including Israel.

 

[yoshimaroka]

You really need to remove "Zionist Neo-conservatives"

This is going to feed fuel to the media fire and I can see this being on Fox news: "is Ron Paul tageting anti-semites and Jihadists?"

There is an appropriate way to reach out to the Arab population and you take it a little too far

Exactly. Please remove "Zionist Neo-conservatives".
The best way to change a persons view is to get them at their best; people are more open minded when you are friendly with them and positive.
When you force something(negativity), you always get "blowback".
Set a good example and be positive!

This worked for Ghandi, Martin Luther King…etc.

stevedasbach said:
"Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate who opposes financial and military aid for all countries, including Israel."

That's a lot better. But don't forget to include the reason why he opposes financial and military aid for all countries.

 

[max]

we cant play by the enemy's rules

the media will smear RP as an anti-semite anyway, just as they attacked Jimmy carter...and a racist...and a nut......

HELL IS GOING TO BREAL LOOSE ON ALL OF US VERY SOON NO MATTER HOW CAUTIOUS WE ARE...so why hold back?

Zionists refers to themselves as Zionists...and arabs know what the term means...if we dont stop living in fear of labels we'll always be on the defensive..

RP isnt afraid to criticize the Israeli lobby (read his quotes)...Jimmy carter wasnt afraid...so why should we be?

if americans are so stupid that they would fall for the anti RP smears....then he wont win anyway

 

[JoshLowry]

I don't want to hear any whiny ass bullshit about how this flyer...

Max this message board allows everyone to put their viewpoints in. People can make suggestions and don't need to be harassed over it.

 

[Avalon]

I basically agree with DeadheadForPaul. The quotes you have there are great...they don't need your framing to tell the audience what he's talking about. I also don't appreciate how you opened the OP but otherwise the content was good. Can you expound on how you infiltrated the arab community? How you got them to trust you (besides this flyer)? I think the key to not offending them via pigeonholing (when soliciting them in person) is to stick to "non interventionist foreign policy" and letting them engage you on the details.

 

[LibertyBelle]

You really need to remove "Zionist Neo-conservatives"
This is going to feed fuel to the media fire and I can see this being on Fox news: "is Ron Paul tageting anti-semites and Jihadists?"

There is an appropriate way to reach out to the Arab population and you take it a little too far

I can tell you that by the number of Arabs that I've seen in meetup groups and in the facebook group, they're already getting the message...no need to reach out to the extremes. We'll get that vote

Agreed. That quote of his doesn't say anything about Zionists, either. Just Neoconservatives.

 

[Man from La Mancha]

Exactly. Please remove "Zionist Neo-conservatives".
The best way to change a persons view is to get them at their best; people are more open minded when you are friendly with them and positive.
When you force something(negativity), you always get "blowback".
Set a good example and be positive!

This worked for Ghandi, Martin Luther King…etc.

stevedasbach said:
"Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate who opposes financial and military aid for all countries, including Israel."

That's a lot better. But don't forget to include the reason why he opposes financial and military aid for all countries.

Gee I don't know from any dealings I have had with Arab people but I think Zionist Neo cons would be very well understood term.

 

[stevedasbach]

Gee I don't know from any dealings I have had with Arab people but I think Zionist Neo cons would be very well understood term.

However, RON PAUL doesn't refer to them as Zionist neocons. We should not put words in his mouth.

 

[DeadheadForPaul]

My suggestion for a Re-Do of the Flyer:
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Who is Dr. Ron Paul and why is his message of peace and a sensible foreign policy spreading across America?


WHAT DOES RON PAUL SAY ABOUT AMERICAN INTERVENTION IN THE MIDDLE EAST?

"Rarely do we hear that Iraq has never committed any aggression against the United States. No one in the media questions our aggression against Iraq for the past 12 years by continuous bombing and imposed sanctions responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of children. [...] Only tyrants can take a nation to war without the consent of the people. The planned war against Iraq without a Declaration of War is illegal. It is unwise because of many unforeseen consequences that are likely to result. It is immoral and unjust, because it has nothing to do with US security and because Iraq has not initiated aggression against us."

ABOUT THE NEO-CONSERVATIVES WHO CAUSED THE WAR?

"Neo-conservatives are in positions of influence and are well placed throughout our government and the media. They want to redraw the map of the Middle East and are willing to use force to do so. They believe in preemptive war to achieve desired ends."

FACTS ABOUT CONGRESSMAN RON PAUL

*Ron Paul Voted Against the War in Iraq
*Ron Paul Opposes U.S. Intervention in the Middle East
*Ron Paul believes in peace and trade with ALL nations.
* Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate that wants to end the war immediately.
* Ron Paul opposed the PATRIOT ACT and will repeal it.
* Ron Paul does not favor military aid to foreign nations

All Americans, including Arab-Americans, are welcome to volunteer for Congressman Ron Paul. To learn more about this honorable man, please visit www.RonPaul2008.com and make a generous donation.

This ad was created by a volunteer group of Ron Paul supporters. Copy and redistribute.

 

[JoshLowry]

My suggestion for a Re-Do of the Flyer:
=======================================
Who is Dr. Ron Paul and why is his message of peace and a sensible foreign policy spreading across America?


WHAT DOES RON PAUL SAY ABOUT AMERICAN INTERVENTION IN THE MIDDLE EAST?

"Rarely do we hear that Iraq has never committed any aggression against the United States. No one in the media questions our aggression against Iraq for the past 12 years by continuous bombing and imposed sanctions responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of children. [...] Only tyrants can take a nation to war without the consent of the people. The planned war against Iraq without a Declaration of War is illegal. It is unwise because of many unforeseen consequences that are likely to result. It is immoral and unjust, because it has nothing to do with US security and because Iraq has not initiated aggression against us."

ABOUT THE NEO-CONSERVATIVES WHO CAUSED THE WAR?

"Neo-conservatives are in positions of influence and are well placed throughout our government and the media. They want to redraw the map of the Middle East and are willing to use force to do so. They believe in preemptive war to achieve desired ends."

FACTS ABOUT CONGRESSMAN RON PAUL

*Ron Paul Voted Against the War in Iraq
*Ron Paul Opposes U.S. Intervention in the Middle East
*Ron Paul believes in peace and trade with ALL nations.
* Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate that wants to end the war immediately.
* Ron Paul opposed the PATRIOT ACT and will repeal it.
* Ron Paul does not favor military aid to foreign nations

All Americans, including Arab-Americans, are welcome to volunteer for Congressman Ron Paul. To learn more about this honorable man, please visit www.RonPaul2008.com and make a generous donation.

This ad was created by a volunteer group of Ron Paul supporters. Copy and redistribute.

 

[DeadheadForPaul]

By the way, where did this quote come from: "Neo-conservatives are in positions of influence and are..."

I cant find it and would like to see the source

 

[Kregener]

Neo-Conned - Rep Ron Paul before the House, July 10, 2003

'Bout a 1/4 of the way down.

 

[max]

deadhead

google..."Neoconned ron paul"...the quote is in there

 

[yoshimaroka]

the media will smear RP as an anti-semite anyway, just as they attacked Jimmy carter...and a racist...and a nut......

HELL IS GOING TO BREAL LOOSE ON ALL OF US VERY SOON NO MATTER HOW CAUTIOUS WE ARE...so why hold back?

Zionists refers to themselves as Zionists...and arabs know what the term means...if we dont stop living in fear of labels we'll always be on the defensive..

RP isnt afraid to criticize the Israeli lobby (read his quotes)...Jimmy carter wasnt afraid...so why should we be?

if americans are so stupid that they would fall for the anti RP smears....then he wont win anyway

Like it or not, we're playing within a confined system. We have to be smart and know how to work it, just the neo-cons did… the only difference is we at least we have integrity.

I have a few Arab friends (Christian Lebanese) and I must say, your ad is perfect for them.

I'm going to be looking for some politically oriented Arab-American forums and myspace/facebook groups to redistribute the ad.

Keep up the good work!

 

[DeadheadForPaul]

google..."Neoconned ron paul"...the quote is in there

Well, you pieced together various parts of the speech and put them together. If you do this in the future, make sure to use "..." between the segments.

I hope you use the updated version. You did a pretty good job with the original but it was just a little divisive, so I think the new version has broader appeal and is not going to automatically alienate voters