I would like to attempt to clear up any Campaign for Liberty misinformation you have!

[Expatriate]

Why is it that the Ron Paul Revolution is pushing so hard on this whole CFL thing? Some of us aren't really into Canadian football.

Haha, every time I hear about the CFL on the radio or TV up here my brain thinks for a second they are talking about the Campaign for Liberty and not football

 

[ShannonOBrien]

Haha, every time I hear about the CFL on the radio or TV up here my brain thinks for a second they are talking about the Campaign for Liberty and not football

OOOOH! Now I get it!

 

[Pete]

I'm cool with the "Campaign For Liberty," just as long as they don't try anything foolish like reforming the Republican Party.

Huh?

I guess that was tongue in cheek. Actually, C4L will not attempt to reform the party. The will simply educate voters as to the issues and candidates.

However, if any individual members wish to become involved in party politics...

At my county meetup, we decided that during election season, once the C4L meetings are adjourned, the RP2012 meetings or whatever will be called to order.

 

[ShannonOBrien]

Here you go: http://www.sos.louisiana.gov/tabid/156/Default.aspx
I had a meeting back in september where I explained to a lot of our activist how to acquire voter list for their precincts.
It would be good information for all state coordinators to have published for everyone.

I'm in Washington. I already have a list. Ours are free.

 

[Theocrat]

With All Sincerity and Solemnity

Huh?

I guess that was tongue in cheek. Actually, C4L will not attempt to reform the party. The will simply educate voters as to the issues and candidates.

However, if any individual members wish to become involved in party politics...

At my county meetup, we decided that during election season, once the C4L meetings are adjourned, the RP2012 meetings or whatever will be called to order.

I can assure you it wasn't tongue-in-cheek. I was serious. The Republican Party had their time, and they failed miserably. In my opinion, it's time for the GOP to go extinct and for another conservative party take the reins of advancing our nation towards sound republican principles before it's too late.

I am glad that the CFL is not getting involved with trying to change the GOP, though. Education on the issues is good. I shall continue to march with them.

 

[Melissa]

I see so many posts on this forum where people have misinformation about Campaign for Liberty. I think that part of the blame can go to the campaign itself for not communicating enough with the grassroots. The reason that is such a problem is because 1.) They are a very small staff with a mountain of tasks to complete 2.) You have to sign up to be a precinct leader before you can get all of the information! The reason you have to be a precinct leader before you can get the information is because it contains information that can't be given out willy nilly.

I have requested the C4L to clear up all of the confusion but they are unable to give the grassroots its full and undivided attention right now. (They did say that they will have more contact as soon as they possibly can though.) So instead of waiting, I have decided to answer any questions about C4L to the best of my knowledge. I am just a precinct leader but I was very confused when I first signed up and did a lot of asking up the chain of command to get answers. Hopefully I can be of some help to those just as confused as I was.

Wonderful that you are doing this, thanks and I too can help with questions if anyone has any, but as my state is doing you have to get involved to decide what course CFL is going to take in your own state, we are having a state meeting here in Indiana on Saturday to get the ball rolling here

 

[Pete]

Theocrat, our platform is entirely reasonable for Republicans, and I think it's wiser to work the swing vote within the party, then the swing vote within the population. We really do have a constituency in the GOP (and in the DNC for that matter); they just don't know it yet, which is C4L's job.

The outcome of battles such as the one in Washington State will point the way:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=170921

 

[angelatc]

Actually, if you sign up to be a precinct leader there are a ton of tasks delegated to you that actually make a concrete difference. Basically, everyone is in charge of their own precinct and they give you all the tools, strategy and materials to win your precinct for liberty. I have not needed anything from the HQs. Any questions I had that couldn't be answered by other precinct leaders were always answered by my state coordinator immediately.

I am not a people person. I can't sell heaters to eskimos and I couldn't win a precinct for Jesus. If and when a viable leader steps up in Livingston County I will happily host every meeting in my house - during the summer we can have cookout and pool parties, and in the winter we can have bonfires and sit in the sauna.

But I am not a good leader and I am not going to pretend that I am. I used to throw up after making cold calls - talking to strangers and trying to sell them something isn't something that comes easily for me and I'll not put myself through that again.

What I was referring to was the constant whining from the C4L staff about how busy they are. Adam can't fix anything because he's too busy. The store isn't open. The DVDs aren't ready. They can't clean spam out of their YouTube comments, all because they're too busy.

I worked my ass off during the campaign, and I saw a lot of the exact some behaviors and tired old excuses then.

There are literally hundreds of people sitting around waiting for a task or a mission while the C4L staff can't get anything done.

Looks like I am not the only one who isn't a very good leader.

 

[ShannonOBrien]

I am not a people person. I can't sell heaters to eskimos and I couldn't win a precinct for Jesus. If and when a viable leader steps up in Livingston County I will happily host every meeting in my house - during the summer we can have cookout and pool parties, and in the winter we can have bonfires and sit in the sauna.

But I am not a good leader and I am not going to pretend that I am. I used to throw up after making cold calls - talking to strangers and trying to sell them something isn't something that comes easily for me and I'll not put myself through that again.

What I was referring to was the constant whining from the C4L staff about how busy they are. Adam can't fix anything because he's too busy. The store isn't open. The DVDs aren't ready. They can't clean spam out of their YouTube comments, all because they're too busy.

I worked my ass off during the campaign, and I saw a lot of the exact some behaviors and tired old excuses then.

There are literally hundreds of people sitting around waiting for a task or a mission while the C4L staff can't get anything done.

Looks like I am not the only one who isn't a very good leader.

I don't know. I think you sound like a really great leader. It takes a lot of work to host an event. We all have our roles. In your case, you hate calling people on the phone but you love opening up your home to events. That's great. I understand your frustration with the Campaign for Liberty but I hope you reconsider. It would be a shame for your talents not to be put to good use.

 

[MRoCkEd]

What I was referring to was the constant whining from the C4L staff about how busy they are. Adam can't fix anything because he's too busy. The store isn't open. The DVDs aren't ready. They can't clean spam out of their YouTube comments, all because they're too busy.

I think we need streaming video and audio of inside the HQ so we can be assured that they are working efficiently.

I'm half joking - but maybe recording their meetings would be a good idea.

 

[Pete]

There are literally hundreds of people sitting around waiting for a task or a mission while the C4L staff can't get anything done.

A point I keep trying to make is that we don't have to wait for the C4L staff. They have put up a pretty nice website and I am grateful for it, but it's up to us to organize C4L in our cities, counties, and states. Our county group is doing OK; we are going to start doing multimedia shows in two communities per month starting in January, the main purpose being to draw in the liberty-minded and do some recruiting. We're also going to form our own not-for-profit, and solicit donations, mainly to cover literature costs and advertising. We have elected officers and a fundraising committee.

One very valuable job I see for non-PLs is reporting news and/or becoming issues experts, and being our own media. This could be awesome. Imagine having our people in city council meetings, school board meetings, and courtrooms, or keeping tabs on statehouse proceedings. We could blog, then use the blog articles for monthly newsletters covering local, state, and federal issues to be distributed by PLs. There can be more than one PL per precinct, or nonpaying members could just help in their precincts, join a political party, etc., etc., etc.

Heck, Angel, you can design your own mission and run it under C4L.

 

[Elwar]

I can assure you it wasn't tongue-in-cheek. I was serious. The Republican Party had their time, and they failed miserably. In my opinion, it's time for the GOP to go extinct and for another conservative party take the reins of advancing our nation towards sound republican principles before it's too late.

Ya, the Libertarian Party had their chance...the Republican Party had their chance too.

Maybe we can have 5 parties go up against the Democrats. 5 vs 1 should work a lot better.

 

[DFF]

If I might make a suggestion: People don't understand the Federal Reserve System.

An forum dedicated solely to exploring and exposing the Fed (not just links to books, etc.) would be immensely helpful.

 

[Sematary]

I see so many posts on this forum where people have misinformation about Campaign for Liberty. I think that part of the blame can go to the campaign itself for not communicating enough with the grassroots. The reason that is such a problem is because 1.) They are a very small staff with a mountain of tasks to complete 2.) You have to sign up to be a precinct leader before you can get all of the information! The reason you have to be a precinct leader before you can get the information is because it contains information that can't be given out willy nilly.

I have requested the C4L to clear up all of the confusion but they are unable to give the grassroots its full and undivided attention right now. (They did say that they will have more contact as soon as they possibly can though.) So instead of waiting, I have decided to answer any questions about C4L to the best of my knowledge. I am just a precinct leader but I was very confused when I first signed up and did a lot of asking up the chain of command to get answers. Hopefully I can be of some help to those just as confused as I was.

I would have signed up as a precinct leader long ago but the system is set up for a pay per precinct leader and I simply don't have any money. So - no sign up.

 

[angelatc]

Well, the grassroots came up with the logo. But, I haven't heard anyone remarking how wonderful that is.

I don't hate it. Actually hadn't heard anything about it until now.

 

[angelatc]

I would have signed up as a precinct leader long ago but the system is set up for a pay per precinct leader and I simply don't have any money. So - no sign up.

Well move to Livingston County and we'll team up.

 

[Melissa]

I would have signed up as a precinct leader long ago but the system is set up for a pay per precinct leader and I simply don't have any money. So - no sign up.

Do you have a meetup close to you, we took and helped give to some of our members that could not pay for it by getting donations from our local group

 

[ShannonOBrien]

I would have signed up as a precinct leader long ago but the system is set up for a pay per precinct leader and I simply don't have any money. So - no sign up.

Melissa had a good suggestion below about that. You can always be a non-dues paying member be just as helpful. You could contact the precinct leaders closest to you through the website. They will need all the help they can get.

 

[tonesforjonesbones]

Well, I'm not sure what the big secret is. Yes , You can work your arse off for liberty, but you have to pay us 35 dollars to get the big secrets first., That just makes no damn sense to me...either they WANT to spread liberty or they don't...If I wanted footsoldiers i damn sure wound't CHARGE them to volunteer. I really have an issue wiht this..."ok ..for 35 dollars you can be in the "in crowd"...and that is sure enough blocking me from joining. I feel like if I am willing to drag myself out of the house to go get active...that should be payment enough. It's not the MONEY it is the principle. they should SCRAP the stupid 35 bucks and they would probably get all the precinct leaders they could handle. <EYEROLL> ToneS

 

[MRoCkEd]

Well, I'm not sure what the big secret is. Yes , You can work your arse off for liberty, but you have to pay us 35 dollars to get the big secrets first., That just makes no damn sense to me...either they WANT to spread liberty or they don't...If I wanted footsoldiers i damn sure wound't CHARGE them to volunteer. I really have an issue wiht this..."ok ..for 35 dollars you can be in the "in crowd"...and that is sure enough blocking me from joining. I feel like if I am willing to drag myself out of the house to go get active...that should be payment enough. It's not the MONEY it is the principle. they should SCRAP the stupid 35 bucks and they would probably get all the precinct leaders they could handle. <EYEROLL> ToneS

The complete yearly updating voter list for all precincts in the nation is $350,000.
They plan to recruit 10,000 precinct leaders in one year.
Being a precinct leader costs $35.
$35 x 10,000 = $350,000