I would like to attempt to clear up any Campaign for Liberty misinformation you have!

[ShannonOBrien]

Does it bother you at all that the only people on the actual board are either members of his family or members of the prior campaigns?

Well, when I put myself in his shoes I guess I would feel more comfortable having family members because I can trust them and members of prior campaigns because I already know what to expect of them. But I can understand why that could be a problem. If they are completely incompetent, because of the close ties, he might not want to fire them.

The bottom line is that they are all temporary and they know that. RP set up the campaign for liberty so that once we get enough people we can hold elections and the grassroots can elect the higher ups. That way, if one of his family members is incompetent, we can put someone else in their position that will do a better job. That's why in the end I'm not too concerned, though I'm still going to be skeptical.

 

[raystone]

Does it bother you at all that the only people on the actual board are either members of his family or members of the prior campaigns?

You and the rest of the grassroots are the Campaign for Liberty, not HQ. Questioning the HQ staff is not accomplishing a damn thing.

Let me know of another liberty organization that has multiple communication tools, voter database tools, political action training, is non-partisan, and that we can attach Ron Paul's name to, and I'll get behind it.

 

[angelatc]

I see so many posts on this forum where people have misinformation about Campaign for Liberty. I think that part of the blame can go to the campaign itself for not communicating enough with the grassroots. The reason that is such a problem is because 1.) They are a very small staff with a mountain of tasks to complete 2.)

Pfffft. Sounds like it's being run just like the campaign. Imagine that. God forbid they actually use some of that grassroots support to actually accomplish anything.

 

[slacker921]

Does it bother you at all that the only people on the actual board are either members of his family or members of the prior campaigns?

.. Yes.

 

[ShannonOBrien]

Pfffft. Sounds like it's being run just like the campaign. Imagine that. God forbid they actually use some of that grassroots support to actually accomplish anything.

Actually, if you sign up to be a precinct leader there are a ton of tasks delegated to you that actually make a concrete difference. Basically, everyone is in charge of their own precinct and they give you all the tools, strategy and materials to win your precinct for liberty. I have not needed anything from the HQs. Any questions I had that couldn't be answered by other precinct leaders were always answered by my state coordinator immediately.

 

[constituent]

You and the rest of the grassroots are the Campaign for Liberty, not HQ. Questioning the HQ staff is not accomplishing a damn thing.

rofl, neither does giving them free reign.

sounds like a lose/lose to me, but hey, not my problem.

 

[pacelli]

Well, when I put myself in his shoes I guess I would feel more comfortable having family members because I can trust them and members of prior campaigns because I already know what to expect of them. But I can understand why that could be a problem. If they are completely incompetent, because of the close ties, he might not want to fire them.

The bottom line is that they are all temporary and they know that. RP set up the campaign for liberty so that once we get enough people we can hold elections and the grassroots can elect the higher ups. That way, if one of his family members is incompetent, we can put someone else in their position that will do a better job. That's why in the end I'm not too concerned, though I'm still going to be skeptical.

Thank you for the rational response, you make some good points.

 

[raystone]

rofl, neither does giving them free reign.

sounds like a lose/lose to me, but hey, not my problem.

free reign as in the reign of a king ?

I'm my own king, aren't you ?

 

[Sandra]

You and the rest of the grassroots are the Campaign for Liberty, not HQ. Questioning the HQ staff is not accomplishing a damn thing.

Let me know of another liberty organization that has multiple communication tools, voter database tools, political action training, is non-partisan, and that we can attach Ron Paul's name to, and I'll get behind it.

If you reread your post , you'll see you didn't choose the best words in a liberty forum.

Voter databases can also be obtained through your registrar for a small fee. Mine was 10.00 for a download.

 

[Theocrat]

Campaign For Life, Not Death

I'm cool with the "Campaign For Liberty," just as long as they don't try anything foolish like reforming the Republican Party.

 

[ShannonOBrien]

Thank you for the rational response, you make some good points.

 

[ShannonOBrien]

Voter databases can also be obtained through your registrar for a small fee. Mine was 10.00 for a download.

Tell me more about this find!

 

[torchbearer]

Tell me more about this find!

Here you go: http://www.sos.louisiana.gov/tabid/156/Default.aspx
I had a meeting back in september where I explained to a lot of our activist how to acquire voter list for their precincts.
It would be good information for all state coordinators to have published for everyone.

 

[torchbearer]

people in Louisiana on top of it.

 

[Eric21ND]

Here you go: http://www.sos.louisiana.gov/tabid/156/Default.aspx
I had a meeting back in september where I explained to a lot of our activist how to acquire voter list for their precincts.
It would be good information for all state coordinators to have published for everyone.

No kidding! I tried to purchase my list and they said it was $200

Also I don't know if you guys have this on there or not, but a google map of just your district or precint would be most helpful and listing where and when to vote. Basic stuff like that. On Feb 5th all I did the entire night is direct RP voters to a district map to find theirs and vote accordingly. It was chaos.

 

[newyearsrevolution08]

No kidding! I tried to purchase my list and they said it was $200

Also I don't know if you guys have this on there or not, but a google map of just your district or precint would be most helpful and listing where and when to vote. Basic stuff like that. On Feb 5th all I did the entire night is direct RP voters to a district map to find theirs and vote accordingly. It was chaos.

There is sometimes a trick to it as well though. Go to the place in person and let them know you want the list for general political efforts versus telling them specific candidates or campaigns.

Our precincts were $0.50 a piece I believe and you can get the whole city of a disk for $20 to $50 that lists their political affiliation and the whole deal. It does help out MUCH more than google maps can do.

An easy way to do this is get with your local group and go in together on the list IF it is infact more expensive then that. You would have your fresh list and odds are more fresh than the cfl could provide depending on how they get their lists and how new they are.

It never hurts to try local first then go with the national connections if all else fails.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Well, when I put myself in his shoes I guess I would feel more comfortable having family members because I can trust them and members of prior campaigns because I already know what to expect of them. But I can understand why that could be a problem. If they are completely incompetent, because of the close ties, he might not want to fire them.

The bottom line is that they are all temporary and they know that. RP set up the campaign for liberty so that once we get enough people we can hold elections and the grassroots can elect the higher ups. That way, if one of his family members is incompetent, we can put someone else in their position that will do a better job. That's why in the end I'm not too concerned, though I'm still going to be skeptical.

Well, that's good to know. That resolves a good deal of my concerns.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Pfffft. Sounds like it's being run just like the campaign. Imagine that. God forbid they actually use some of that grassroots support to actually accomplish anything.

Well, the grassroots came up with the logo. But, I haven't heard anyone remarking how wonderful that is.

 

[constituent]

Well, the grassroots came up with the logo. But, I haven't heard anyone remarking how wonderful that is.

actually, i like the logo quite a bit, though i realize i'm apparently alone on that one.

 

[constituent]

free reign as in the reign of a king ?

I'm my own king, aren't you ?

lol, try again jr.