I met Bob Barr yesterday.....

[Just Come Home]

Bob Barr and Ron Paul doing well helps the movement.

 

[Just Come Home]

When you have the BJ Lawson sig, you're representing BJ Lawson online. At least from where I stand, that's how it seems.

In that case, Brett Sanders needs to remove the stick from his butt.

 

[Bradley in DC]

He just wants to be a big fish in a small pond.

I suspect he would prefer to be a big fish in the ocean.

 

[Rhys]

I suspect he would prefer to be a big fish in the ocean.

that's why he's feeding on the LP.

 

[CountryboyRonPaul]

If Republicans lose, the media, and all the talking heads will simply blame it on Bush/Iraq and the perceived notion that these are right-wing ideals.

Hell, the past 4 years have been nothing but Liberals hyping the idea that Republicans are evil extremist right-wing war mongers.

I doubt the talking heads will let the un-informed public believe that Republicans lost because they weren't Conservative enough.

But, I do partly agree with everyone's arguement. We have been cast aside by Socialists in the party of Capitalism. I don't however think Obama/Hillary would be any better for freedom than McCain.

Maybe your right though, maybe the party will eventually have to concede and tell their lackeys to start acting more conservative and less moderate so that they can win again.

What type of high powered microscope are you using to make that determination?


I really can't tell who would be worse...

Yeah, it's hard to determine who is more liberal, but...
Assuming that both Dems will continue the war for an undetermined amount of time, and increase spending presumably by a similair amount to that we are already spending on the war to fund a "Universal Health Care" program, I see both Democrats as being slightly worse on inflation.

Not to mention the likelyhood for more Clintonista style Interventionism and Foreign Aid with both candidates.

At least McCain has Don Luskin for an economic advisor.

Whether or not he would heed his warnings would be the determining factor as to how bad for the Economy McCain will be. Somehow I doubt McCain would keep Luskin around after he got into office, unfortunately.

For those who think I'm promoting McCain, I am NOT, and never will. Just defending my assertion that Democrats still do suck a tiny bit more.

Honestly, whether Reps lose, and whether Dems suck more than Reps doesn't matter anymore to me. I'm voting either Libertarian, Constitution, or Ron Paul in the unlikely event that I get a chance for a write-in. I will continue to spread the message of Capitalism, and why it's important that it succeeds, with or without the Republican party.

 

[RonPaulFever]

I've met him a few times.

He is an asshole.

Is he a repulsive, hate-inspiring kind of asshole like Cheney, or a feisty, no-nonsense, likeable asshole like Joe Biden?

 

[Jeremy]

The only reason you should write-in Paul is if he's a registered write-in candidate... otherwise you aren't really voting... they don't count them. In other words... who knows what will happen between now and November. There's a chance RP may not want to register.

 

[JMann]

He explicitly asked you to vote for him instead of writing in Ron Paul?

Asshole.

He is running for office, if he didn't ask people to vote for him he wouldn't be doing his job. If he is a serious candidate he will ask everyone he meets between now and the general election to vote for him, regardless of who the person supported before he joined the race.

For those of you holding on to Paul, I got a little secret- It is over.

 

[Chibioz]

I like Ron Paul's speaking style as well. I think maybe he is a little wordy for the average person but I think he is fantastic. I'm here to back Paul. I'm voting for Ron Paul no matter what.

 

[Yom]

I do. Because if you think about it the other way, Republicans winning this time around with McCain as the nominee would send a strong signal that big government, nation-building and all the rest is a winning formula. Losing this time around will bring about a period of reflection that maybe hey, when you say you're the party of small government and fiscal responsibility...that you actually have to _be_ the party of small government and fiscal responsibility, or risk getting thrown out of office.

Yup. It's not about all Republicans losing, just the neocons.

 

[0zzy]

You guys piss me off. He's an asshole, but you give no reason. People think he is somehow bad cause he suggest voting for him rather than Obama or McCain, that you don't /have/ to write-in Paul if a Libertarian is in the race. Yep, asshole. I mean really.

I have yet to hear a reason why I shouldn't support his candidacy. Someone give me a real reason. I find him to be an articulate speaker and defender of civil liberties, why is that bad?

 

[TruthAtLast]

Sorry, we use Diebold in my District, so unless we can change that before Nov. there's no way I'll be able to write in Ron Paul, and I'm willing to bet 98/100 people who say they will write in Ron Paul are in the same situation as me.

Yep, i'm in the same situation.

 

[latkinson6]

I hope RP wins, I have my doubts. But a libertarian press, nomatter who, is better
than the "3" running now. I'd support Forest Gump over any dem or neocon.

www.bobbarrforums.com

 

[Nash]

Agreed. He doesn't measure up to Ron Paul standards, he's too much of a coward and doesn't take a true stand.

He doesn't deserve our financial support or our vote.

Why would you write in Ron Paul if he's not even going to bother running in the general?

Why doesn't Bob Barr deserve our financial support or our vote? What don't you like about him?

If you guys continue to make this movement a cult of personality then the movement will die with Ron Paul. Is that what you really want? This rejection of every other candidate not named Ron Paul is a grave concern to me and it should be to everyone on this board. We're done past this election cycle if people aren't more accepting of people willing to take on the banner.

Ron Paul is not going to run for President again. We need to support candidates who will.

 

[TruthAtLast]

You guys piss me off. He's an asshole, but you give no reason. People think he is somehow bad cause he suggest voting for him rather than Obama or McCain, that you don't /have/ to write-in Paul if a Libertarian is in the race. Yep, asshole. I mean really.

I have yet to hear a reason why I shouldn't support his candidacy. Someone give me a real reason. I find him to be an articulate speaker and defender of civil liberties, why is that bad?

i agree. We are trying to compare Barr to Ron Paul. Well if Ron Paul isn't in the General Election, then what will help the Movement? Writing in Ron Paul if you can, and if it counts would be useless because the vast majority of states can't do write ins, so are we saying that Ron Paul supporters just shouldn't vote at all? Or do we vote for the next best thing? I haven't done a lot of research on Barr yet, but I'd have to imagine that we'd be better off voting for him than our alternatives.

It will be interesting to see how this all plays out. I completely understand Ron Paul's reasons for not committing to anything right now. But after the National Convention is over I hope Ron Paul does something and either endorses someone or runs on someone's ticket, or SOMETHING.

 

[TruthAtLast]

Why would you write in Ron Paul if he's not even going to bother running in the general?

Why doesn't Bob Barr deserve our financial support or our vote? What don't you like about him?

If you guys continue to make this movement a cult of personality then the movement will die with Ron Paul. Is that what you really want? This rejection of every other candidate not named Ron Paul is a grave concern to me and it should be to everyone on this board. We're done past this election cycle if people aren't more accepting of people willing to take on the banner.

Ron Paul is not going to run for President again. We need to support candidates who will.

don't worry Nash, there are a lot of people who feel as you do and are in this for Liberty and Freedom no matter who is running.

 

[Barney]

if we take over our states, we can eliminate Diebold in them. States run elections.

Very sound logic!

First step in the Revolution is to get a fair count.

Even if we managed to win the war of ideology, it can still be subverted by vote fraud. First, take back the vote count.

 

[xd9fan]

K.I.S.S
I say just focus on Ron Paul

 

[Crickett]

Well, I don't see how Republicans losing would help us. The way I see it Obama and Hillary are a little bit worse than McCain (not by much).

A 3rd party gaining ground would always be beneficial, but it's a long term goal.

If Barr is on the Ballot and Ron Paul is not, I will vote for Barr.

Sorry, we use Diebold in my District, so unless we can change that before Nov. there's no way I'll be able to write in Ron Paul, and I'm willing to bet 98/100 people who say they will write in Ron Paul are in the same situation as me.

Diebold or not. They BETTER find a way for us to write in a candidate if RP not on the ballot, because my right to vote depends upon it. I would not put ANY of those other horrid people in any office but Unemployment...if my vote even counted...

 

[Rhys]

don't worry Nash, there are a lot of people who feel as you do and are in this for Liberty and Freedom no matter who is running.

that's why we'll end up all following some manchurian candidate off a bridge just like the lemmings we insult daily.

And why do you guys support Bob Barr just cause he's Libertarian? The only Libertarian Party member I know thinks Ron Paul is crazy.