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I met Bob Barr yesterday.....

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Apparently he teaches a class at my college. I didn't even notice him on the elevator until someone next to me said something about it.

I asked him what he thought about Ron Paul. He said he likes Ron Paul's message, but he thinks he is not a very good speaker.

I said I voted for Paul on Super Tuesday and that I was going to be writing his name in come November if I had to. He replied that I should vote for him instead, and that he is running as a Libertarian.

We then started talking about Mike Gravel, and how he thinks that Gravel's big government stance does not fit with the Libertarian party.

After he had to leave I went back to what I was doing. (I missed my floor cause I was talking to him :p )

I am still going to be voting for Ron Paul this November. Sorry Barr. :D
 
I haven't met him so I'm not sure if he is an asshole. I've seen a couple videos and he seems to be fairly intelligent and able to communicate well. I haven't completely written him off yet but since I can not write in anyone in my State I have to either find someone to vote for or not vote at all.

So the questions is, what helps the Movement? Republicans losing? Another 3rd party gaining ground even if they don't win? Maybe that itself will start to send a message and give some legitimacy to elements of our platform. I haven't decided yet and until the Convention is over, I'm not sure I'll be able to. One thing I know for sure, I will not vote for McCain.
 
So the questions is, what helps the Movement? Republicans losing? Another 3rd party gaining ground even if they don't win? Maybe that itself will start to send a message and give some legitimacy to elements of our platform. I haven't decided yet and until the Convention is over, I'm not sure I'll be able to. One thing I know for sure, I will not vote for McCain.

Well, I don't see how Republicans losing would help us. The way I see it Obama and Hillary are a little bit worse than McCain (not by much).

A 3rd party gaining ground would always be beneficial, but it's a long term goal.

If Barr is on the Ballot and Ron Paul is not, I will vote for Barr.

Sorry, we use Diebold in my District, so unless we can change that before Nov. there's no way I'll be able to write in Ron Paul, and I'm willing to bet 98/100 people who say they will write in Ron Paul are in the same situation as me. :mad::(
 
He explicitly asked you to vote for him instead of writing in Ron Paul?

Asshole.
 
if we take over our states, we can eliminate Diebold in them. States run elections.
 
Well, I don't see how Republicans losing would help us.

I do. Because if you think about it the other way, Republicans winning this time around with McCain as the nominee would send a strong signal that big government, nation-building and all the rest is a winning formula. Losing this time around will bring about a period of reflection that maybe hey, when you say you're the party of small government and fiscal responsibility...that you actually have to _be_ the party of small government and fiscal responsibility, or risk getting thrown out of office.
 
He explicitly asked you to vote for him instead of writing in Ron Paul?

Asshole.

That bothers me a bit as well. It now seems he is riding Ron's coattails to some level of notriety. I liked the idea of Ron passing off the torch to someone else in this election cycle...but the more I read about Bob Barr, the less confidence I have that he is the right person.
 
He explicitly asked you to vote for him instead of writing in Ron Paul?

Asshole.

Agreed. He doesn't measure up to Ron Paul standards, he's too much of a coward and doesn't take a true stand.

He doesn't deserve our financial support or our vote.
 
I really wish Chuck Baldwin would anounce his candidacy for the CP. I think we could all get behind him. He may not be Ron Paul, but he is alot closer than Barr.
 
Well, I don't see how Republicans losing would help us.

Republicans losing the election BECAUSE of Libertarians sends them the message that if they deny their libertarian roots, they won't win again.

Republicans winning with a neo-con McCain says they can abuse fiscal policy and true-conservative voters without retribution.

Out of any announced candidate thus far (aside from Ron Paul, who will not be on the ballot in Nov.), Barr has the most credibility with disgruntled GOP voters, and the most in common with Paul's message.

Why write in Ron Paul's name when it won't count when you can vote for Barr who will send the GOP a message they won't soon forget. You want to do something for the Movement, and for the revolution? Teach Republicans that they can't win without their conservative/libertarian roots.
 
I met him one time and gave him cheese I made using my girlfriend's breast milk.
When you have the BJ Lawson sig, you're representing BJ Lawson online. At least from where I stand, that's how it seems.
 
Republicans losing the election BECAUSE of Libertarians sends them the message that if they deny their libertarian roots, they won't win again.

Republicans winning with a neo-con McCain says they can abuse fiscal policy and true-conservative voters without retribution.

Out of any announced candidate thus far (aside from Ron Paul, who will not be on the ballot in Nov.), Barr has the most credibility with disgruntled GOP voters, and the most in common with Paul's message.

Why write in Ron Paul's name when it won't count when you can vote for Barr who will send the GOP a message they won't soon forget. You want to do something for the Movement, and for the revolution? Teach Republicans that they can't win without their conservative/libertarian roots.

Republicans will lose cause of the war. Why vote for Bob Barr when he's the least of 4 evils? I'm sticking with Ron Paul. When the GOP loses, not if, they'll sum it up to "change", "war" and the need for socialism. it's pre-planned. Vote Ron Paul! (I shouldn't have to say that on the rpforums.)

and giving people titty milk cheese is only more gross than making it! omg lol
 
Well, I don't see how Republicans losing would help us.

I absolutely think a Republican Party loss would benefit us. They keep telling us that only a moderate can win, but I disagree. I think it is the moderates that do us more harm than the Democrats could ever hope to.

Really, who ever ran on a middle-of-the-road wishy-washy platform like McCain and won? Bill Clinton, the last Democrat we elected, had to move to the right to make himself electable. And he was running against Bush the 1st, a guy brought in specifically to make Reagan look moderate. "Read my lips - no new taxes!" turned into leftest taxes....and he was promptly ousted.

I'm not old enough to remember Nixon's platform, and Ford didn't really stand a chance because of the mess that Nixon left.

I think the the current Republican Party is useless. The best we can hope for them is to be a spending stopper. They don't mind spending themselves, but they don't want them Democrats to spend. Fine - if that's what it takes to make the government stop then so be it.

Republicans will not be losing this election for any reason other than they have abandoned their principles and deserve to be handed their hats. The conservative base isn't going to beat feet to the polls to vote for McCain.
 
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I asked him what he thought about Ron Paul. He said he likes Ron Paul's message, but he thinks he is not a very good speaker.

Bob Barr said Ron Paul was not a good speaker and he is? I watched barr sunday and had to staple my eyes open. Barr is better than the 3 stooges but Ron Paul is the pinnacle candidate for constitution lovers, i like his speaking style.
 
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