I killed the five racists...

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

'Cold as ice' Conn. beer driver kills 8, self


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_beer_distributor_shootings


MANCHESTER, Conn. – A driver caught stealing beer from the warehouse where he worked agreed to resign his job Tuesday and then as "cold as ice," one of his victims said, went on a shooting rampage, killing eight people and injuring two before committing suicide.

Omar Thornton pulled out a handgun after a meeting in which he was shown video evidence of the thefts and was offered the chance to quit or be fired.

"Then he went out on this rampage," company vice president Steve Hollander told The Associated Press. "He was cool and calm. He didn't yell. He was cold as ice. He didn't protest when we were meeting with him to show him the video of him stealing. He didn't contest it. He didn't complain. He didn't argue. He didn't admit or deny anything. He just agreed to resign. And then he just unexplainably pulled out his gun and started blasting."

Hollander said he thinks Thornton, 34, had guns stashed in his lunch box. The executive said two people standing near him were shot in the head and killed, but he was only grazed in the jaw and the arm.

"He shot at me twice and hit me a couple times," he said. "By just the grace of God, I don't know how he missed me."

About 50 to 70 people were in the Hartford Distributors warehouse about 10 miles east of Hartford during a shift change when the gunman opened fire around 7 a.m., said Brett Hollander, Steve Hollander's cousin and a member of the family that owns the distributorship.

"I was on the phone with 911 and then I saw him running outside of my office window, shooting his gun, carrying his lunch box, which must have had his weapons in it," Steve Hollander said. "It doesn't seem real to me now, it seems like I'm watching a movie."

The shooting was over in a matter of minutes. The victims were found all over the complex, and authorities said they didn't know if Thornton fired randomly or targeted specific co-workers.

After shooting his co-workers, Thornton called his mother, who tried for 10 minutes to talk him out of killing himself, his uncle Will Holliday told reporters.

"He said, 'I killed the five racists that was there that was bothering me,'" Holliday said. "He said, 'The cops are going to come in so I am going to take care of myself.'"

Major premise: Such a thing as racism exists.
Minor premise: A few white people were once racist.
Conclusion: All white people are racist and should be killed.

 

[YumYum]

I think to some race is still an issue although I think it is only an issue because TPTB want it to be an issue to keep the peons fighting each other while they rob us all.

The race thing, I believe started with Rush Limbaugh accusing Obama of being a racist, even though at the time he said that, there was nothing to back up his claim. Then Hannity jumped on the race bandwagon, along with a few other neocons on cable TV. Also, pictures on the internent and posters of Obama painted up like monkeys and African Unga Bungas at the Tea Party rallies helped throw fuel on the fire.

We've always had the Al Sharptons and the Jesse Jacksons, who in my view are looked at by both blacks and whites as trouble makers, and they are mostly ignored. But the accusations of racism by Maxine Waters and the NAACP is not going to be ignored, and just when it looked like the white vs. black tensions was finally being put to rest, the MSM has set back the clock on black/white relations 30 years.

I blame the biased media more than TPTB.

 

[dannno]

Ya i'd be curious to know how much beer he stole, if any.. I'm sure there are some stupid government regulations that don't allow employees to just 'take' beer and most privately owned distributors in a free market probably would have no problem with their employees grabbing a six pack on the way home... I mean, what does it cost them in materials, probably $.80 for a six pack.. why would an employer care if their employee grabbed $.80 worth of product at the end of the day to take home and enjoy ??

I'll bet a lot of the other employees 'steal' small amounts of beer as well, since the company can't have a policy of letting them have some.. and of course the black guy gets singled out..

So nobody here can imagine this scenario

 

[MelissaWV]

So nobody here can imagine this scenario

Of course, but the fact is the company didn't, and they had him on tape (per the official story at this time) stealing beer.

Most companies I've worked for have a certain level of freebies they allow their employees. It's interesting. It doesn't matter the level of generosity, the workers always wanted more than they got. If there was free lunch once a month, they grumbled that it wasn't fancy enough, or that it should be weekly. If there were tee shirts, they wanted polo shirts. If there were polo shirts, they wanted nice button-down dress shirts. It seems to be a very widespread thing.

I could absolutely imagine the company giving its employees some freebies, sure, but it's their decision and they didn't give their employees free beer. It's probably more of a liability thing than anything else.

 

[YumYum]

So nobody here can imagine this scenario

Most places of employment do not allow their employees to take home product and materials without permission from management. Taking a six pack can lead to taking 30 cases of beer.

 

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

The race thing, I believe started with Rush Limbaugh accusing Obama of being a racist, even though at the time he said that, there was nothing to back up his claim. Then Hannity jumped on the race bandwagon, along with a few other neocons on cable TV. Also, pictures on the internent and posters of Obama painted up like monkeys and African Unga Bungas at the Tea Party rallies helped throw fuel on the fire.

We've always had the Al Sharptons and the Jesse Jacksons, who in my view are looked at by both blacks and whites as trouble makers, and they are mostly ignored. But the accusations of racism by Maxine Waters and the NAACP is not going to be ignored, and just when it looked like the white vs. black tensions was finally being put to rest, the MSM has set back the clock on black/white relations 30 years.

I blame the biased media more than TPTB.

The single toothed "racist" today is portrayed just as niggardly as the old colored man rummaging through the wood pile once was portrayed. Neither exists or ever existed. These lowly accounts are myths perpetrated by northern Anglo people and Europeans to hide the fact that they themselves use to mistreat others as well. Yet, the northerners owned slaves just as the Europeans have always mistreated the Slavs.
We all have to suffer stress in life. Some of us call this daily stress "stress," while others of us have the convenience of calling it "prejudice" or "racism."

 

[Clairvoyant]

Because white people don't get fired when they steal beer.

This needs to be turned into a demotivational poster.

 

[michaelwise]

This would be a perfect example of a race crime like lynchings or burning crosses on lawns, No?

 

[oyarde]

morals

I surmise the moral to the story is , buy beer , do not harm your employer or co workers, don't steal , drink more beer and then nobody has to be concerned with " racism".

 

[dannno]

Taking a six pack can lead to taking 30 cases of beer.

Can..

The question is, was he taking a six pack or 30 cases

Was there a white guy standing next to him stealing 30 cases when he took the 6 pack

 

[dannno]

I could absolutely imagine the company giving its employees some freebies, sure, but it's their decision and they didn't give their employees free beer. It's probably more of a liability thing than anything else.

Well that was my point, it probably ISN'T the choice of the company to let their employees take beer at the end of the day.. and it probably is a liability thing, but it is probably enforced by the state at some level..

 

[Anti Federalist]

Not sure what this thread is meant to imply?

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

Some people already hit on some of the points I wished to get across by posting this.

My two main reasons:

1 - CT is a pretty restrictive state when it comes to firearms and concealed carry is not "shall issue" and is not common. A CCW holder may have had a chance to end this.

2 - The racial angle, specifically this: "we", meaning liberty people, tea party people, Ron Paul folks, are constantly accused of racism and are also accused of being within a hair's breadth of comitting acts of mayhem at any moment.

We get accused of our speech being "agitating" and on the verge of inciting violence.

So maybe that played a role in the shooter's mindset.

Reverse the situation: if this had been a white shooter specifically targeting blacks, what would the media's reaction have been?

 

[michaelwise]

It's the same mindset when you mention anything in opposition to Zionism. You are automatically an Anti-Semite. The Jews were the inventors of racism.

 

[BlackTerrel]

The main stream media has taught the sub room temperature IQ people, that people who differ with you on any subject are racists. This is the only conclusion I can surmise from the lunatics comments. Similar to any weather event is caused by man-made global warming.

Generally the guy who shoots up a bunch of people is a lunatic.

The last few times it's been white guys. At VA Tech it was an Asian. This time it was a black guy. The common denominator you're looking for is "lunatic".

But people like you always get excited when something like happens. Another opportunity for you to start spewing.

 

[michaelwise]

Generally the guy who shoots up a bunch of people is a lunatic.

The last few times it's been white guys. At VA Tech it was an Asian. This time it was a black guy. The common denominator you're looking for is "lunatic".

But people like you always get excited when something like happens. Another opportunity for you to start spewing.

The only point I make is; I still am more likely to be struck by lighting twice in the same year than being killed by one of those lunatics.

People like me keep things into perspective.

Do you want to know what people like me call people like you?

People like me call people like you, "Demagogues".

 

[JustinTime]

Ya i'd be curious to know how much beer he stole, if any.. I'm sure there are some stupid government regulations that don't allow employees to just 'take' beer

Yep, theft is against the law.

Ive given my employees free product to try out, get familiar with, and test for our own product knowledge, but Id fire anyone who took some without permission. Even if it was a similar amount I normally gave away.

If I let anyone help themselves to whatever, whenever, and took no action to prevent it, Id be out of business in no time.

 

[JustinTime]

It's probably more of a liability thing than anything else.

Its more of a inventory/bookkeeping thing IMO, you need to know what you have on hand. So freebies can be tolerated while taking stuff without the bosses knowledge can never be.

 

[dannno]

Yep, theft is against the law.

No, I mean 'take' as in WITH the company's permission.. It is probably against the law. So often employers in these situations WILL let their employees take items WITHOUT their permission so the workplace doesn't get in trouble. This can create problems if it is abused, which is a shame because if it was LEGAL for them to hand out beer at the end of the day then the employer would have much more control over what the employees are taking and you wouldn't have as many of these situations.

Do they ID? Do they have a liquor license to distribute alcohol to individuals? No. So they probably can't let their employees take beer.

When I said a six pack is probably about $.80 in materials, what if he was taking 2 beers? That's less than $.50. What if that was standard practice among nearly ALL the employees to take a couple beers at the end of the day? If so, why was he singled out?

I'm not saying what happened, I'm just saying what could have happened based on what information there is.

 

[dannno]

If I have a bunch of employees at a beer factory, I might assume that some of them work there because they enjoy beer. So as an employer, I can provide my workers with some free beer. This has several benefits to me, the company and my workers.

1. I can pay my employees less because they aren't spending nearly as much money on beer. They can afford their car payment, house payment, bills and save up some money on the side with less money if I give them free beer. If I forced my employees to buy the product at the store, then they are going to be paying salaries of the distributors and retailers. My employees will demand more money or possibly accept another opportunity which means I might end up with lower quality employees. This does not offset my increase in sales made from my employees buying my beer at the store.

2. If my employees are paying full price for MY beer, they are going to be more likely to buy a competitors beer instead. This will help my competitors advertise and gain more market share.


Therefore it is beneficial to give your employees whatever your company makes in quantities they they or their family can personally use. It saves them money, it increases the quality of workers and helps ensure the money you give your employees doesn't go into the pockets of the competition.

 

[Jordan]

Dannno, you sure do live in a world with unlimited possibilities.


(Many states, not sure about CT, don't allow any business to give away beer. This is usually circumvented with a penny payment for however much alcohol. )