i have never seen this before

[garrettwombat]

the forums used to be a buzzing network of ideas and strategy...

it has all pretty much come to a stop...



it seems like we have a couple people wanting a 3rd party run... and others with their undercover delegate operations... and then we have the people pushing for a million to one chance of brokered conventions...

iv always had a clear understanding of what is about to happen in the community and knowledge of feeling we are all working towards a common goal with the presidential run...

everyone keeps laying ideas on the table and i see nothing getting done...



ron paul needs to figure out an official strategy to win and make another video for us to follow by... and i mean specifics.. he needs to tell us exactly what to do and we will do it.


the campaign has been so quite lately... you go onto their site and the main part of it hasn't even been updated in about a week.... no new messages from ron about super Tuesday... what is about to happen?

 

[Molly1]

He's already given us our direction. We're going to the convention.

Did you hear his speech today?

It was a shot across the bow of those who would destroy the conservative movement (and the Constitution).

Carry on!

 

[Steve_New_Jersey]

He's already given us our direction. We're going to the convention.

Did you hear his speech today?

It was a shot across the bow of those who would destroy the conservative movement (and the Constitution).

Carry on!

link?

 

[The New Revere]

Getting delagates and going to the convention IS what Ron Paul is after. Please see his recent emails and the blog on the official site.

 

[RageAgainstDC]

...then we'll follow him to the grave, cause mccain's gonna have this wrapped up in no time.

 

[garrettwombat]

yeah i need a link... im feeling pretty apathetic right about now.

 

[boondoggle]

Part 1 of 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ksxNjHPrmw

Part 2 of 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrdgeEv5cxE&feature=user

Part 3 of 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7VBEM08jlo

I hope you think it was as amazing of speech as I did.

 

[brunner]

Would someone explain to me how a convention is at all even possible at this point?

 

[Sauron]

Would someone explain to me how a convention is at all even possible at this point?

It's possible because no Republican candidate has 1191 delegates yet. Time to snuff out McCain. Like those ducks that didn't vote for Huck in Iowa.

 

[Patronus]

I haven't voted yet. It's not over.

 

[seapilot]

Undercover delegate operations?? Are you a delegate, this is where the numbers really count.

 

[Drknows]

He's already given us our direction. We're going to the convention.

Did you hear his speech today?

It was a shot across the bow of those who would destroy the conservative movement (and the Constitution).

Carry on!

He's not doing it because he wants to. Hes waiting on you people to decide whats next.

Should he run for congress? Send money to his ron paul for congresss.

Should he run independent or 3rd party? Organize a fundraiser and raise millions for that cause.


Hes sticking it out until the revolution comes to a decision. I guarantee you if we stop sending money he will drop out.

 

[RickyJ]

Getting delagates and going to the convention IS what Ron Paul is after. Please see his recent emails and the blog on the official site.

Which will accomplish what exactly? A minor speaking role at the convention? Is that worth spending more money on? Unless McCain dies before the convention then he will be nominated. Paul may get to speak, but then again he might not. Not really worth the effort if you ask me. A third party run now is the only option for continuing this campaign. Either he goes third party or he should suspend the campaign. Spending more money with no real chance of getting the nomination is not running for President, it is spreading a message. The message needs to be spread, but we have more than enough of his videos to do that now without him continuing his run in the GOP primaries. If he runs third party I will enthusiastically support him, but his run in the GOP primaries is over whether he is willing to admit it or not.

 

[JordanQ72]

I guarantee you if we stop sending money he will drop out.

That might be a real and serious problem very shortly considering how badly we missed

1) His initial January goal
2) His heavily revised Super Tuesday goal

Exactly how much do you think we need to be raising? It's stuff like this that's really annoying, because I know you won't have an answer with any real reasoning behind it, we'll both be speculating. I really wish the campaign was giving us some more details.

 

[mczerone]

Which will accomplish what exactly? A minor speaking roll at the convention? Is that worth wasting more money on? Unless McCain dies before the convention then he will be nominated. Paul may get to speak, but then again he might not. Not really worth the effort if you ask me. A third party run now is the only option for continuing this campaign. Either he goes third party or he should suspend the campaign. Spending more money with no real chance of getting the nomination is not running for President, it is spreading a message. The message needs to be spread, but we have more than enough of his videos to do that now without him continuing his run in the GOP primaries. If he runs third party I will enthusiastically support him, but his run in the GOP primaries is over whether he is willing to admit it or not.

He should spend what money he may have in the Republican race. If there seems to be hope left, he'll get more donations. Until the convention, though, he can't announce a 3rd party, lest lose all money currently spent for naught, and starting from scratch on a second, tougher campaign.

I don't want to make Ron run 3rd party. Even with all the Bloomberg or other party rumors, if the GOP puts McCain against either O or H, there will be too much "lesser of two evils" pressure voting to keep the huge numbers in the two party system. Paul would draw the same thousands of voters in each state that are dedicated, maybe twice as many if we really worked at canvassing. There is a 0% chance of winning the presidency on a third party ticket. There is still a slim chance of drawing enough delegates to force a vote, after which it appears we may have a, say, 25% chance of being in the range to take out McCain.

so overall - I'd say we have a better shot at the presidency this election holding firm in the republican party, until the convention, anyway.

 

[nodope0695]

A brokered Convention is possible becasue a candidate must have a certain amount of delegates in order to be locked into the nominaation. With Huckabee in the race, and Romney, Ghoul, and Thompson out, that leaves alot of delegates out there. Most, if not all of those delegates are now able to vote for whoever they want. Ron will surely gain some of those delegates, not to mention more from the remaining states who have yet to hold primaries.

That is why I think Romney dropped out. He stole a major landslide from McCain on super tuesday. My guess is a deal was brokered between Romney and McCain wherein Romney would drop out in the hopes of his supporters going over to McCain (in true Sheeple style). In exchange, McCain would assure his new buddy, Mitt, a nice cushy high ranking position in his administration. Of course, I am speculating, but this is politics.

 

[driller80545]

What administration? McCain can't win this election even if he has his people program the Diebolds. I'm seeing a democratic landslide. McCain will be humiliated.

 

[Thunderbolt]

Which will accomplish what exactly? A minor speaking role at the convention? Is that worth spending more money on? Unless McCain dies before the convention then he will be nominated. Paul may get to speak, but then again he might not. Not really worth the effort if you ask me. A third party run now is the only option for continuing this campaign. Either he goes third party or he should suspend the campaign. Spending more money with no real chance of getting the nomination is not running for President, it is spreading a message. The message needs to be spread, but we have more than enough of his videos to do that now without him continuing his run in the GOP primaries. If he runs third party I will enthusiastically support him, but his run in the GOP primaries is over whether he is willing to admit it or not.

Sore loser laws will get in his way if he tried. More importantly, if Ron Paul accepted a third-party nod for President, it could jeopardize his Republican re-election campaign for his House seat- Texas law explicitly prohibits candidates from being affiliated with more than one party in any calendar year.

 

[Oyate]

the forums used to be a buzzing network of ideas and strategy...

it has all pretty much come to a stop...
(snip)

There's tons of reasons for things but I can tell you this. I haven't seen a forum yet that doesn't tend towards pollution. Motivated people get involved in action, outgrow the forums and leave the trolls and do-nothings.

 

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

Sore loser laws will get in his way if he tried. More importantly, if Ron Paul accepted a third-party nod for President, it could jeopardize his Republican re-election campaign for his House seat- Texas law explicitly prohibits candidates from being affiliated with more than one party in any calendar year.

Only four states have the sore loser laws. The only big one is Texas, and there's probably legal basis for challenging it, or loopholes like having him as an independent instead of a specific third party in these states.