I don't like Religion in political parties

You can't Ban porn. Half the Bible is porn. I WONT LET U TAKE MY BIBLE AWAY.

Meanwhile:

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Did it just get hot in here?
 
Dorfsmith said:
I'm still undecided between the two but I will be voting for sure. Nader is on the AZ ballot but Baldwin is eligible for a write in. I probably won't be sure until election day.
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At this point I am leaning towards Nader. The reason being that he is already polling near double digits. That being said, I am concerned about the possibility of of a McCain victory if enough democrats are persuaded to join us.

It is a double-edged sword I suppose, both Obama and McCain would be terrible for our country and the world, but I have developed "feelings" for McCain and they are not positive.
 
DrSpock said:
At this point I am leaning towards Nader. The reason being that he is already polling near double digits. That being said, I am concerned about the possibility of of a McCain victory if enough democrats are persuaded to join us.

It is a double-edged sword I suppose, both Obama and McCain would be terrible for our country and the world, but I have developed "feelings" for McCain and they are not positive.
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That's the main reason I'm leaning Nader. That and the whole ban porn/art thing that the CP seems to promote.
 
I'll either vote for mccain, baldwin or neither.

I won't be able to handle obama on tv 24/7 so I might have to vote for mccain/palin.

In 2012 there will be a better grassroots for third parties. Right now there is nothing that is competing with the MSM so a third party won't work.

That "rock the debate" organization might bring open debates back by 2012 and after the digital switch to cable tv, millions more might just watch internet tv by then.

That gives us more of a chance to fight the MSM and get a third party person elected.

Get to work now obviously.

Too bad ron didn't switch to a third party.
 
erika said:
I'll either vote for mccain, baldwin or neither.

I won't be able to handle obama on tv 24/7 so I might have to vote for mccain/palin.

In 2012 there will be a better grassroots for third parties. Right now there is nothing that is competing with the MSM so a third party won't work.

That "rock the debate" organization might bring open debates back by 2012 and after the digital switch to cable tv, millions more might just watch internet tv by then.

That gives us more of a chance to fight the MSM and get a third party person elected.

Get to work now obviously.

Too bad ron didn't switch to a third party.
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Palin mixes religion in her politics.
 
Dorfsmith said:
That's the main reason I'm leaning Nader. That and the whole ban porn/art thing that the CP seems to promote.
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Indeed, I like Baldwin but I don't want to give the CP the idea that I support their platform. It is important to point out though, I do not believe that Baldwin supports that specific plank, his recent speeches don't seem to suggest it at least.
 
As educated and intelligent as Ron Paul supporters were supposed to be, I'm amazed at what a huge disappointment you guys are sometimes. You see the flaws in the logic of others, but you don't look at the flaws in your own logic.

All throughout the campaign we had people that just bawled because the media was portraying us as a collective group. You guys are doing the same thing with the Constitution party. Look at Chuck Baldwin and what he advocates doing, and you'll find he agrees with Ron Paul on a lot.

What's next? Ron Paul is part of the Republican party. Is he a warmongering deficit spending sleazeball?

Think before you guys talk sometimes. It's a helpful thing.
 
erika said:
There's something about religion that it just seems so collectivist and statist in political parties. It's the one big problem I have with the constitution party. I'm willing to look past it for now though. How many people actually go to church?


We must be heathens out here in California.
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I agree in political parties currently they seem that way, but the religion like our founders had is very liberating. Look at the shot heard round the world. The first battle in the American Revolution was on a church yard, fought by the congregation and minister after he preached them a message. And there were many preachers like that then.
 
DrSpock said:
Indeed, I like Baldwin but I don't want to give the CP the idea that I support their platform. It is important to point out though, I do not believe that Baldwin supports that specific plank, his recent speeches don't seem to suggest it at least.
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True. That's why I have not completely written Baldwin off yet. I'm sure I'll be undecided until I actually vote.
 
Deadtosin,

People have differing opinions, is there something morally wrong with that?
 
Dorfsmith said:
Example?
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Ah, how about REALITY. Freedom of speech is being severely curtailed right now, porn on the other hand is growing.

Correlation is not causation. To suggest the banning of porn, which is such a fucking insanely stupid issue to even bother with in light of what's going on around us, is going to cause a ban on art of free speech is ludicrous.

It seems like you just don't like people with alternate word views to your own and want to demonize it.
 
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