Hunter wins - Paul 3rd

[J4ck]

lol the GOP is in deep trouble (lewrockwell.com)

"TX Straw Poll big losers: TX GOP & Townhall

Only 1300 delegates showed up? Ouch. They were expecting 15,000. I wonder if they even made any money on this deal."

 

[J4ck]

"They were on the ballot."
Yeh but people don't like to vote for candidates who don't even show up.

 

[LibertyEagle]

lol the GOP is in deep trouble (lewrockwell.com)

"TX Straw Poll big losers: TX GOP & Townhall

Only 1300 delegates showed up? Ouch. They were expecting 15,000. I wonder if they even made any money on this deal."

That's unrealistic. There are only 17000 Total Texas Delegates.

 

[Sematary]

Oh man. I'm bummed.

Why? That seems pretty good to me.

 

[J4ck]

dunno

 

[Mister Grieves]

Only 1300 delegates showed up? Ouch. They were expecting 15,000. I wonder if they even made any money on this deal."

I really hope not. The entrenched GOP establishment are really hanging themselves by shunning the only real conservative running. Let them burn.

On another note, Ron Paul is doing astronomically well considering the forces working against him. He beat out almost all the so called 'top-tier' candidates by a wide margin.

Yeh but people don't like to vote for candidates who don't even show up.

Then a lot of people, excluding Paul, are going to be in trouble come election time.

 

[FluffyUnbound]

Guys, you can spin all you want but this vote was a slap in the face from the party to Paul.

Duncan Hunter got all those votes because people were voting for "Anyone But Paul" and chose to reward the only other real candidate to show up.

I'd bet that 300 of Hunter's 500 votes were people who got up that morning to make sure that ANYONE but Ron Paul would win the Straw Poll.

The Republican Party is just too far gone. There will be a lot of guffawing and highfiving at Townhall and elsewhere about the humiliation delivered to Paul, and it tells you everything you need to know about what this party is now about. These guys don't care about any issue other than the war. If Reagan was alive and turned anti-war, they'd slit his throat. If Goldwater was alive and turned anti-war, they'd piss in his face. This is the party now. We better hope that the pro-war candidates cut each other to ribbons and leave Paul a window of opportunity.

 

[Johnnybags]

Yep, the scumbag Steele

Ron Paul signs were 60 percent of the crowd, Hunter 30%, 10% assorted. Remember that jerk who said Ron Paul was "done" after the spat with Rudy? He introduced the first two candidate speeches but "had to go" just before Ron Paul's speech, so someone else introduced Ron. Good Ron energy throughout the event. Ron Paul supporters booed Cheney on a video and Republican Party people started shrieking that they were shameful and to go across the street (anti war protest). Very hostile. Overall, a fun event.

He hates Paul, I loved it when Ron was winning the text poll on FOX after Steele said its done. The Republican party(Neocon) is all but gone, but remember folks, its the economy stupid, and the only thing propping it up for now is money printing from International bankers. Seen how many cronies are jumping ship lately? Pretty soon the FED will accept Chinese toys for collateral. And yes, any stock market debacle will be preceded by a false flag deal so they can blame it on some type of terror or Iran. You really think all that bad paper the FED took as collateral will be taken back by the banks? Nah, they will keep rolling it over and over and printing and printing and only Ron will explain the outcome.

 

[stevedasbach]

Ron Paul supporters booed Cheney on a video and Republican Party people started shrieking that they were shameful and to go across the street (anti war protest). Very hostile.

That was just plain stupid. You've got to know your audience. Booing Cheney could have easily swayed enough undecided votes to cost Paul 2nd place.

 

[J4ck]

Hunter got 534 votes, Ron 217...that was a slap in the face of the establishment. Think about it...antiwar candidate vs. Texan delegates?
I'm pretty sure that the GOP establishment made some pressure to boost Hunter, but it didn't work. (come on 1300 delegates)
This just shows that the party is ready for a change.

 

[Elwar]

Good example

This is a great example of how the national polls work. All the media covering this event know that Ron Paul supporters had the majority of the support at the event but on many accounts admitted "Of all the Ron Paul supporters there, none were delegates".

This is exactly how the National polls work. Only those individuals that voted for a Republican in the last election are included in the poll as "likely republican voters".

 

[Shellshock1918]

sounds like it was rigged, no way hunter would win.

 

[Dlynne]

That was just plain stupid. You've got to know your audience. Booing Cheney could have easily swayed enough undecided votes to cost Paul 2nd place.

At this point in time, I agree with stevedasbach. I live in Houston, and Texan Republicans are not ready to hear boos for the Bush/Cheney crowd, even if they are open to Paul's message. Booing their boys will just piss off the Republicans, and this behavior shoiuld stop if we are going to make any headway with the GOP, especially in the south.

Duncan Hunter, in addition to supporting the war in Iraq, sponsored the bill seeking a Congressional Pardon for the 2 border guards who shot the Mexican drug smuggler. This got a lot of publicity in Texas, and has been discussed by all the conservative radio shows, so Hunter's name has a lot of recognition in Texas, maybe even more than Paul's name.

Regardless, I am disappointed in the results of this straw poll.

 

[paulitics]

If Ghouliani and Romney would have been there, Ron would be 2nd.

yep, at 16%.

 

[kylejack]

No straw poll votes were swayed by booing Cheney after voting had closed. Besides, don't ask for a report and then bitch at me for something others did. Anyway, a TCU journalist just interviewed me outside Bennigan's, so watch for an article.

 

[The Only Woj]

what does it matter if Guiliani or Romney were there or not? the delegates would have voted the same either way. we should be lucky we were 3rd. considering not just anyone could vote. and I'm pretty sure only delegates can actually vote down the line in the republican national convention, it's good to see we got as much support as we did.

 

[Karsten]

You guys, this is awesome!

These are Republican delegats, to either the state or national convention, from Bush's home state. You would expect these people to be hard-line neo-con Republicans. It does not include the usual Ron Paul Republican, who may have come from across the spectrum, or may have not been active in politics before Ron Paul. AND YET WE STILL CAME IN 3RD!!!!! 16%!!!!! Not 1%, not 2%, not 3%, but 16% among hard-line comitted Republicans in Bush's home state!!!!! Think of how unbelieveable that is.

 

[J4ck]

...the Fred supporters are really pissing me off...they would be Ron Paul supporters if they would read some books or alternative news. (well who wouldn't be then lol)

 

[Thomas Jefferson]

I was surprised that Hunter won but then again I don't know how popular he is in Texas. Considering the vote was done by delegates only, I would guess these are hardcore long-standing republicans, so it's quite an accomplishment that RP got 3rd. Then again it could be BS...who knows.

 

[ChooseLiberty]

Have to agree 3rd isn't bad considering the circumstances and Dr. Paul's general consistency across States while the other candidates percentages are all over the place.

IMO a lot of Republican's are hoping Thompson will come and rescue them from the stuffed shirt whacko's like Ghouliani and Willard. I think he's going to be a HUGE dissapointment. He's not the Reagan replica that everyone thinks.