Hunter wins - Paul 3rd

[Zydeco]

No straw poll votes were swayed by booing Cheney after voting had closed. Besides, don't ask for a report and then bitch at me for something others did. Anyway, a TCU journalist just interviewed me outside Bennigan's, so watch for an article.

What did you get at Bennigan's?

 

[FluffyUnbound]

Since my last post was saying I was disappointed with the results, I just want to make sure to say that the efforts of everyone who volunteered were great and you guys really represented the best aspects of the Republican party today.

The mindset of the voting delegates certainly isn't a reflection on you guys, who appear to have worked really hard.

 

[reduen]

What would this be??

 

[kylejack]

If anyone could have voted, we would have stomped. Converting 16% of the hardcore guys is major. Just you wait until we spam the primaries. I am still drinking at Bennigan's. No food yet, but plenty of Shiner.

 

[stevedasbach]

No straw poll votes were swayed by booing Cheney after voting had closed. Besides, don't ask for a report and then bitch at me for something others did. Anyway, a TCU journalist just interviewed me outside Bennigan's, so watch for an article.

I wasn't bitching at you -- sorry if it sounded like I was. I assumed you were only reporting. I was simply trying to saying that booing Cheney in that venue wasn't a smart strategy.

Thanks for clarifying that the booing occurred after the vote. And thank you for the first-person report.

 

[Cliff]

This is really good news guys. If people could of voted Ron would of won.

Look how far Rono has come and stay positive!!!

 

[Dlynne]

I wasn't bitching at you -- sorry if it sounded like I was. I assumed you were only reporting. I was simply trying to saying that booing Cheney in that venue wasn't a smart strategy.

Thanks for clarifying that the booing occurred after the vote. And thank you for the first-person report.

I also apologize if it sounded like I was complaining about your report.

 

[kylejack]

Okay, sorry Steve. Anyway, I wouldn't worry too much. Cheney is at remarkable lows in job approval, so it likely only inflamed the unconvertable sycophants. The same Ron Paul supporters cheered Reagan on the video moments later.

 

[american.swan]

Holy crap, how in the hell did Duncan Hunter get so many friggin votes? I mean to get 500 delegates out there to vote for an unknown... how is that even possible?

This is a very smart statement.

This implies that Texas GOP delegates are willing to vote in mass for a broke unknown who has a lesser chance of winning a single primary over Ron Paul. What happened to voting for a candidate who could win? That is hogwash. How many delegates did we CALL? Something ain't right under some cowboy hats.

 

[kylejack]

Relax guys. Delegates are a small part of primary voters. We would have buried everyone if they let us vote.

 

[Akus]

http://www.townhall.com/blog/g/861a4369-4494-427b-9f5e-df5c00932190

16.17% Ron Paul (217 votes)
41.1% Duncan Hunter (534 votes)
20.5% Fred Thompson (266 votes)
6.4% Mike Huckabee (83 votes)
6% Rudy Giuliani (78 votes)
4.7% Mitt Romney (61 votes)
.46% Sam Brownback (6 votes)
.62% John McCain (8 votes)
.46% Tom Tancredo (6 votes)
2.2% Ray McKinney (28 votes)
.23% Hugh Cort (3 votes)
.77% John Cox (10 votes)


I say, BS

For those of us having gotten upset over Paul finishing third, understand that the selection of people was very limited. Many of Ron Paul's most active supporters are Liberals, independents and Libertarians, who, obviously, would not be present at Republican conventions, a requirement to vote in Texas. Very limited filtered out group of people, thus, was accepted to cast a vote.

Just like Paul finishing fifth in Iowa shouldn't be a let down, neither should this straw poll be. Ron Paul campaigned for only three days in IA. Knowing that, coming fifth is a smashing success. Here, in TX, Ron Pal came 3rd, even with such a filtration of the "right" voter crowd.

Ron Paul is not losing. These straw polls, much like those over the phone votes, pick out only a selected group of people. Our meetup explosion, our growth and our unpaid-for enthusiasm are Ron Paul's biggest asset that East Coaster can buy. Media, despite its best try to portray us as irrelevant or just pretending there is no Ron Paul, is paying attention because they're forced to. We are simply too big, too in the face and too everywhere to ignore. Media is losing viewership to the internet, because people are tired of being told whom to support. No one wants to see McCain portraid as a top contender and Ron portraid as nonexistent, when that is an easily displayable lie.

No one is marching on the streets, no one is promoting their candidates, no one is driving across the state(s) to help the cause. No one, except us. Rudy McRomney, much like us, doesn't believe the idiot box, either and he knows we're making up in people what we're lacking in $$. That guy would not stomp of that sign otherwise.

We mustn't be let down. Keep it up. Give some more $$. Tell some more people. Be polite and non-imposing. Do what you've been doing and change absolutely nothing.

 

[Givemelibertyor.....]

I really hope that these non-Republican supporters will change their affiliation if necessary for the primaries.

Don't think that this rotten GOP is going to do it.

 

[BrianH]

THIS SHOULD BE THE STORY TODAY!
Paul First, Hunter 4th overall in 11 straw polls since Iowa

Rank Candidate.........%........ Votes
1…Ron Paul……………24.9%……….999
2…Fred Thompson….18.9%……….759
3…Mitt Romney……….16.0%……….644
4…Duncan Hunter……….14.1%……….568
5…Rudy Giuliani……….8.1%……….325
6…Mike Huckabey……….5.3%……….214
7…Sam Brownback……….4.4%……….175
8…John McCain……….3.0%……….119
9…Tommy Tancredo……….0.5%……….22
…..Other…………………………4.2%……..167
….Total…….100%……3992
Last 11 Straw Polls included:
Texas GOP 1-Sep-07
Allegheny County (Pittsburgh, PA)
Dekalb County, GA
Ronald Reagan Club (Washington)
Strafford County, NH_West Alabama
West Lafayette, Indiana_Illinois State Fair
Students for Life of America_Western Montana Fair
Gaston County, NC
Source:
http://ok4ronpaul.ashlux.com/wiki/index.php?title=2008_Presidential_GOP_straw_poll_results

 

[texasbelle]

Duncan Hunter, in addition to supporting the war in Iraq, sponsored the bill seeking a Congressional Pardon for the 2 border guards who shot the Mexican drug smuggler. This got a lot of publicity in Texas, and has been discussed by all the conservative radio shows, so Hunter's name has a lot of recognition in Texas, maybe even more than Paul's name.

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I have been lurking for weeks and decided to join in. The third place finish for RP is actually awesome. I am from rural Texas and most of the republicans here are what I would call "hannitized o'reilly heads". Duncan has a lot of name recognition in TX due to the pardon I quoted from the poster above. I think that Ron Paul beat the "top tier" candidates speaks volumes! I am a 'regular person' who would have voted for Paul if given the opportunity, but alas I am not a delegate. For RP to get the percentage of votes from staunch texas republicans is HUGE guys! Keep the Ron Paul energy up!!! There are many supporters to be won!

 

[american.swan]

These are Republican delegats, to either the state or national convention, from Bush's home state. You would expect these people to be hard-line neo-con Republicans. It does not include the usual Ron Paul Republican, who may have come from across the spectrum, or may have not been active in politics before Ron Paul. AND YET WE STILL CAME IN 3RD!!!!! 16%!!!!! Not 1%, not 2%, not 3%, but 16% among hard-line comitted Republicans in Bush's home state!!!!! Think of how unbelieveable that is.

I think I posted too soon about this. I agree with this statement also. So I have some questions.

How/Why did a broke no body Hunter win the poll? Some post have tried to explain that as name recognition in Texas and a reward for the only Pro-war candidate to show up.

How did Ron Paul get 16% out of a hard-lined pro-war Texas delegates? Some would say it was rigged because by phone calls some made he should have gotten more. But also 16% isn't THAT bad.

Fred got 20% and is running on an almost copy of Paul's platform + war i gather. Going to Fred's website gives you a platform many would seem pleasant to the ears. So just by reading that, some could have voted for Fred not knowing his record in Washington.

No matter what we keep going.

 

[alliebelle]

Hunter must have been getting a lot of publicity in TX before the straw poll. My 68 year old father, who lives in the Dallas area, doesn't use the internet and knew all about Hunter.

In addition to showing up, I think Hunter did so well because he has come out against the NAU and NAFTA Superhighway and is strong on anti-illegal immigration, unlike most of the other pro-war candidates. Personally, I think all of the pro-war candidate are globalists.

My Dad prefers Hunter, but he said he'd vote for Paul over the top tier candidates. If Hunter stays at the bottom or drops out, maybe his supporters will switch to Paul since national sovereignty is a very important issue to them. One good sign is that both of my parents donated the max to Paul's campaign, not to Hunter's.

 

[BrianH]

Paul First, Hunter 8th overall

sorry for the dupilcate post! Corrected numbers:
THIS SHOULD BE THE STORY TODAY!
Paul First, Hunter 4th overall in 11 straw polls since Iowa
Rank Candidate.........%........ Votes
1…Ron Paul……………24.9%……….999
2…Fred Thompson….18.9%……….759
3…Mitt Romney……….16.0%……….644
4…Duncan Hunter……….14.1%……….568
5…Rudy Giuliani……….8.1%……….325
6…Mike Huckabey……….5.3%……….214
7…Sam Brownback……….4.4%……….175
8…John McCain……….3.0%……….119
9…Tommy Tancredo……….0.5%……….22
…..Other…………………………4.2%……..167
….Total…….100%……3992
Last 11 Straw Polls included:
Texas GOP 1-Sep-07
Allegheny County (Pittsburgh, PA)
Dekalb County, GA
Ronald Reagan Club (Washington)
Strafford County, NH_West Alabama
West Lafayette, Indiana_Illinois State Fair
Students for Life of America_Western Montana Fair
Gaston County, NC
Source:
http://ok4ronpaul.ashlux.com/wiki/index.php?title=2008_Presidential_GOP_straw_poll_results

 

[Akus]

One good sign is that both of my parents donated the max to Paul's campaign, not to Hunter's.

Max?
As in, $2300?

 

[LibertyEagle]

THIS SHOULD BE THE STORY TODAY!
Paul First, Hunter 8th overall in 11 straw polls since Iowa
Rank Candidate.........%........ Votes
1...Ron Paul.............24.9%....782
2...Mitt Romney.......16.0%....583
3...Fred Thompson...18.9%....483
4...Rudy Giuliani.........8.1%....247
5...Sam Brownback.....4.4%....169
6...Mike Huckabey.......5.3%....131
7...John McCain............3.0%....111
8...Duncan Hunter.......14.1%....34
9...Tommy Tancredo......0.5%....16
.....Other...................... 4.2%....22
.....Total......................100%....2578
Last 11 Straw Polls included:
Texas GOP 1-Sep-07
Allegheny County (Pittsburgh, PA)
Dekalb County, GA
Ronald Reagan Club (Washington)
Strafford County, NH_West Alabama
West Lafayette, Indiana_Illinois State Fair
Students for Life of America_Western Montana Fair
Gaston County, NC
Source:
http://ok4ronpaul.ashlux.com/wiki/index.php?title=2008_Presidential_GOP_straw_poll_results

Brian, this shows Hunter with 34 votes. How could that be correct? He received more than 500 in this straw poll alone.

 

[american2]

Ron Paul gets 16.7 percent of the vote where only pro-war, Bush activists, from the last 4 texas gop conventions (activists for Bush while Texas governor), and the last 2 national conventions (activists for Bush while president) were allowed to vote!!

Go Ron Paul!