Foreign Policy: How does Ron's foreign policy protect the US from terrorism?

[CaptUSA]

9
I know there are different laws proposed that seem to take away freedoms but what and whos freedoms have really been taken?

Have you been to an airport?
What are you not allowed to put into your own body?
Is your government allowed to execute you without a trial?
Can they take your land to give to another entity without your permission?
Can your government take you away and lock you up indefinitely without a trial?
Does the government devalue the fruits of your labor? Does it lay claim to them?

Hard to believe anyone who asks these questions would really think they are free.

 

[sdsubball23]

Have you been to an airport?
What are you not allowed to put into your own body?
Is your government allowed to execute you without a trial?
Can they take your land to give to another entity without your permission?
Can your government take you away and lock you up indefinitely without a trial?
Does the government devalue the fruits of your labor? Does it lay claim to them?

Hard to believe anyone who asks these questions would really think they are free.

I haven't flown since the late 80s

Who and how many people have been a victim of this out of the population of the US?

Just to let you all know I'm trying get some really good info about the foreign policy so I may ask a lot of challenging questions as if I'm part of the opposition. I hope this doesnt rile u all up

 

[mosquitobite]

I know there are different laws proposed that seem to take away freedoms but what and whos freedoms have really been taken?

sdsubball23, who gets to define terrorist/terrorism?

 

[sdsubball23]

sdsubball23, who gets to define terrorist/terrorism?

I figure the government and whatever they have defined it as already.

What do you think?

 

[Gary4Liberty]

one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. So I guess it depends what your agenda is. Havent you seen all the people in airports getting groped and touched, unlawfully searched and detained.? It just happend to Rand Paul for crying out loud. If it happens to him, It most certainly can happen to you. It is happening all the time in the news.

http://www.alligator.org/opinion/editorials/article_ccc75c4c-4644-11e1-a1dd-0019bb2963f4.html

 

[liveandletlive]

we stop funding terrorism and aiding groups like Fatah and others around the world, thus keeping these problems as isolated as possible.

 

[Tod]

Someone w/ drawing skills:

Cartoon of a scared American looking under the bed at a shadow of a suicide terrorist before climbing in for the night....

Caption: The government WANTS you to think the boogeyman is under your bed.

Or something along those lines...

 

[jacksonunit]

In three words, "Stop foreign aid." I'm almost certain that if the rest of the world had to fight their own wars, pay for their own groceries, dig themselves out of their own earthquakes, etc.... for a few years, anti-American sentiment would slow to a trickle. The nice part about this plan is that IT WILL HAPPEN, one way or another.

How NOT to fight terrorism: When a rogue element from one country (Saudi Arabia) attacks you, turn around and attack some other country (Iraq) because you think that a rogue element in that country MIGHT be involved. How would you feel if China bombed DC because they felt some suddenly violent Falun Gong radicals were trained in America by Kundalini Yoga fundamentalist radicals.

*I know, the Falungongites didn't fly airplanes into Chinese skyscrapers, but the rest of the analogy is golden.

 

[sdsubball23]

In three words, "Stop foreign aid." I'm almost certain that if the rest of the world had to fight their own wars, pay for their own groceries, dig themselves out of their own earthquakes, etc.... for a few years, anti-American sentiment would slow to a trickle. The nice part about this plan is that IT WILL HAPPEN, one way or another.

How NOT to fight terrorism: When a rogue element from one country (Saudi Arabia) attacks you, turn around and attack some other country (Iraq) because you think that a rogue element in that country MIGHT be involved. How would you feel if China bombed DC because they felt some suddenly violent Falun Gong radicals were trained in America by Kundalini Yoga fundamentalist radicals.

*I know, the Falungongites didn't fly airplanes into Chinese skyscrapers, but the rest of the analogy is golden.

but haven't there been reports of al qaeda involved in these other countries? I figure that would be a reason for invasion of other countries, to stop the terrorists whereever they are located from attacking again

 

[sdsubball23]

Do you see "women in the workplace" listed here?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motives_for_the_September_11_attacks

And some videos from the former head of the CIA Bin Laden unit and advisor to three US Presidents on the Middle East and Terrorism.



And here he is endorsing Ron Paul's foreign policy:

Thanks for the videos, interesting material.

I found this blog regarding Scheuer's views. How would you respond to the response by Robert Spencer and some of the comments?

hxxp://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/02/disgusting-anti-semite-michael-scheuer-says-israel-is-such-an-enormous-detriment-to-the-united-states-video/

 

[GunnyFreedom]

On 9/11 we should have had an entire armed air wing on alert for CONUS East. Instead we had four aircraft on alert, only one of which was armed. We were already spread too thin then. Also, the real terrorism danger is from sleeper cells in the US. When those activate I'd rather have the Army at Ft Benning Georgia than Barton Barracks Germany where the best they can do is watch it on CNN. Finally, Paul's RKBA policy would have allowed commercial pilots to carry pistols, which may have stopped 9/11 from ever happening in the first place.

Not to mention that Paul warned us 2 years in advance that it was coming, and proposed policy adjustments to prevent it.

 

[bluesc]

Thanks for the videos, interesting material.

I found this blog regarding Scheuer's views. How would you respond to the response by Robert Spencer and some of the comments?

hxxp://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/02/disgusting-anti-semite-michael-scheuer-says-israel-is-such-an-enormous-detriment-to-the-united-states-video/

“Well I think that’s appallingly a terrible thing for Mr. Scheuer to have said. Israel is the only real democracy… It’s the only stable government. It’s the only one that protects human rights. And, Mr Scheuer wants us to throw it under the bus for a bunch of people who are going to institute a system of Islamic law that institutionalizes discrimination against non-Muslims and women, extinguishes the freedom of speech and freedom of conscience and is inveterately hostile to a genocidal degree. I think that’s appalling.”

Israel protects human rights? LOL. Remind me how the Israeli government treats Muslims? Besides, he is making a humanitarian argument that is completely unrelated to US national security. Scheuer goes on these shows to explain how any given story or event is going to affect the national security of the US. He is completely correct when he says that whatever happens to Israel, it makes absolutely no difference to US national security. Robert Spencer can make all of the humanitarian arguments he likes, it still doesn't change the facts that Scheuer lays out.

 

[sdsubball23]

Israel protects human rights? LOL. Remind me how the Israeli government treats Muslims? Besides, he is making a humanitarian argument that is completely unrelated to US national security. Scheuer goes on these shows to explain how any given story or event is going to affect the national security of the US. He is completely correct when he says that whatever happens to Israel, it makes absolutely no difference to US national security. Robert Spencer can make all of the humanitarian arguments he likes, it still doesn't change the facts that Scheuer lays out.

What about the anti-semite accusations?

 

[bluesc]

What about the anti-semite accusations?

I didn't realize you wanted me to respond to such ridiculous arguments.

Michael Scheuer is stating that the security of Israel means nothing in relation to US national security. That is a fact. Of course, the common argument against those that don't idealize Israel is "You're an anti-semite!!!111!", which is, quite frankly, is absolutely ridiculous.

The ridiculous "anti-semite" claim is one of the main reasons you can't have a rational discussion on US Middle East policy anymore.

 

[ronpaulhemp]

Ron Paul's policies would remove the main cause of hatred/terrorism against us by removing troops from overseas lands. Plain and simple.

 

[FreeTraveler]

The woodsman's explanation of foreign policy.

Go find the biggest hornet's nest you can find. Watch it closely.

This is Ron Paul's foreign policy.

Now let's try our existing foreign policy.

Find a very sturdy stick. Walk up close to the hornet's nest. Give it three big whacks with the stick. If you get stung, whack it again.

Now tell me that intervention is the best foreign policy.

 

[mosquitobite]

I know there are different laws proposed that seem to take away freedoms but what and whos freedoms have really been taken?

who gets to define terrorist/terrorism?

I figure the government and whatever they have defined it as already.

What do you think?

My question was because you asked what freedoms and who's freedoms have been taken. The terrorists freedoms have been taken. Who are the terrorists? Whomever the government defines as terrorists.

Now, from there you have to realize how many tentacles the CIA has and how they achieve their goals. We're comfortable with our government secretly working to overthrow other governments and we know they do it. But at the same time, we don't consider how they could use the same tactics to change public opinion on domestic topics?

Let's imagine an OWS protest outside the White House. Bunch of stinky hippies smoking pot wanting all our hard earned money, right? Let's now pretend one of them throws a grenade onto the WH lawn. (Unbeknownst to us of course is the fact that the one who threw the grenade is a CIA operative) How would this get painted in the media? Would the right wingers bash the OWS protesters as terrorists? Of course they would! BAM. Dissent squashed.

 

[bolil]

I will answer you question with another question: How did the Roman Empire's foreign policy contribute to its collapse? (Hint it has to do with holding a really, really, really, long line and pissin off the locals as you hold it)