HOAX EXPOSED: Full Clip Of Cliven Bundy’s Non-Racist, Pro-Black, Pro-Mexican, Anti-Government

[TomtheTinker]

"Whoda thunk, an inarticulate cattle rancher....."

That's classism.

 

[Deborah K]

There is a massive and appreciable gap between saying that not even slavery could destroy the black family to the extent the welfare state has, and actually asking if blacks, as a whole, were better off being owned by other human beings.

It can be repeated a trillion times, and it will never be true. Blacks were not better off being owned by other human beings than they are now.

That depends on whether the messenger is a skilled orator, or an elderly, inarticulate, old fashioned rancher with virtually no speaking skills.

 

[Deborah K]

He may or may not be a racist, but he is a collectivist. "The Negro" or "The black man" or "The black family" etc... does not recognize individuals. It's not just people with brown skin who are dependent on government. And no, people with that color of skin would not be better off owned by some one, than having the choice to make what they will of their own life.

You lack understanding of what 'collectivism' means.

 

[TomtheTinker]

My Grandpa, when talking about blacks, used the word 'colored' until the day he died. He passed away 4 years ago. He was born in the north, and that was the term he was told to use to be polite when he was young. He was not at all racist, he spent hours and hours talking about how all men are God's children, and brothers and stuff like that. I was listening to Apostle Claver on Raging Elephants Radio yesterday, he is black. He pointed out that Bundy's use of words, was the only thing that the Liberals can attack him over. How many clips of black men defending 'RACIST EVIL CLIVEN!!!!' do I have to dig up before people stop buying the politically correct bull crap?

There is no amount of common sense, no inventory of logic large enough to convince the political correct police that any body who is different from them isn't some sort of bigot.

even if that means they are more bigoted than the people they attack.

 

[Deborah K]

This man said the blacks he saw in those houses abort their children and put their kids in jail because they never learned how to pick cotton....That's racist...

It's stereotyping, not racism. He didn't call for them to be lynched, or to return to slavery.

 

[fr33]

 

[nobody's_hero]

You lack understanding of what 'collectivism' means.

Or when Cliven has used the word "individual" more in one press conference than most of us do in a year.

 

[Cissy]

'we' don't pick cotton by hand too much these days....right?....cotton is picked by machine i believe, so therefore, the 'picking cotton' reference is a metaphor for HARD WORK, or just 'working'...

the rest of your racist allegation is just silly..... Whats the ratio of blacks versus whites in jail or prison?.....geez...

There are plenty of metaphors for hard work or working which don't give the collectivists unnecessary ammo.

 

[pcosmar]

 

[Spikender]

I remember I was into Zo when I used to be a neocon in high school.

I stopped when I woke up and never watched him again.

Wondered how he was doing.

 

[56ktarget]

So the guy who said blacks were better off as slaves is actually pro-black? lol...

 

[fr33]

So the guy who said blacks were better off as slaves is actually pro-black? lol...

Oh look, a drive by poster that didn't read anything within the topic. That's why he has red-rep.

 

[PRB]

So the guy who said blacks were better off as slaves is actually pro-black? lol...

Yes. Because if it wasn't, we'd have to agree with liberals that he's racist, and we can't have that.

 

[sylcfh]

Saying black Americans were better off as slaves exclusively is highly racist.

Making the analogy that black Americans are worse off in the projects than they were as slaves is maybe less racist, but still inappropriate.

 

[PRB]

Saying black Americans were better off as slaves exclusively is highly racist.

Making the analogy that black Americans are worse off in the projects than they were as slaves is maybe less racist, but still inappropriate.

Anybody who thinks slavery is preferable to ANYTHING today (with exception of prison), should demonstrate that by voluntarily becoming a slave (especially those who claim "we are all still slaves")

 

[mrsat_98]

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe


Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/j/johannwolf134023.html#uM5x9iyTMEDVq3Rt.99

FYI

 

[pcosmar]

Anybody who thinks slavery is preferable to ANYTHING today (with exception of prison), should demonstrate that by voluntarily becoming a slave (especially those who claim "we are all still slaves")

Your Troll Crap needs a response,, but I'll let these brothers do it.

 

[PRB]

Your Troll Crap needs a response,, but I'll jet these brothers do it.

Being black doesn't make you right or non-racist. But that's besides the point, again, if either of these guys think blacks are better off was slaves, let's see them volunteers as slaves, I'm sure they'll know how preferable it is.

I can say I prefer to be waterboarded than to be fed cheese, doesn't mean I actually do unless and until I've proven I've done it.

 

[pcosmar]

Being black doesn't make you right or non-racist. .

So in other words you did not listen to a word they said.. And would likely ignore any other in the Black community that agree with them,, or strays from the entitlement mentality.

Did you get banned from 4chan or something? Don't you have somewhere else to fling shit at the walls?

 

[PRB]

So in other words you did not listen to a word they said.. And would likely ignore any other in the Black community that agree with them,, or strays from the entitlement mentality.

Did you get banned from 4chan or something? Don't you have somewhere else to fling shit at the walls?

Being against entitlements and agreeing with Bundy is all great, but saying slavery is preferable to anything today is a bullshit claim unless and until a person proves it by living it. I don't dismiss what a person says just because he is or isn't black, but if one is going to make a claim that X is better than Y, i won't take him seriously unless he acts on it.