High IQ And World View

[bunklocoempire]

I bet wisdom over "smarts" any day of the week.



Bunkloco

 

[AggieforPaul]

Ron Paul is definitely an intellectual powerhouse in my book. He chose the most difficult grad school category there is, and then attended an elite school in that field. I'll take a Duke medical degree over a Harvard political science degree or a Yale Law degree any day. And not only did he ascend to the top of his profession, he spent his spare time mastering economic theory and studying legal and governing theory to prepare himself for a Congressional run.

He's proven that basically any topic he sets his mind to, he's going to be among the top performers in that field.

 

[nate895]

When I took a do-it-yourself MENSA IQ test, I scored better than 98.7% of the population (it only gave you a percentile score), and I'm extremely religious.

My guess as to the reason why these stats are the case has more to do with the popularity of atheism/agnosticism. Those theological positions are outside of the mainstream of thought in today's society, and generally people who hold to minority positions like that have higher IQs because they are more curious than the average Joe. The default positions in today's society as far as religion goes is to be moderately religious. Most of the people who are moderately religious are there simply because that is the way to be. I guess if they actually did this study in a society where atheism is the default position, and religious conservatism is an extreme minority, the situation could easily be reversed.

 

[sofia]

Higher IQ people generally go to college....and Marxist college professors brainwash their impressionable students...


that's all this "study" means....


correlation is not causation

 

[sevin]

I know the article is not saying that one has to be an "atheist," liberal, or sexually exclusive male to be intelligent. However, its analysis from the "experts" who did the study certainly suggests that those particular mindsets/behaviors somehow show a strong connection to being the most intelligent people in a society, on an evolutionary scale. To me, that's hogwash.

You think they faked the results of the study?

I guess if they actually did this study in a society where atheism is the default position, and religious conservatism is an extreme minority, the situation could easily be reversed.

Good point!

 

[Vessol]

You think they faked the results of the study?

Nah, they just used bad terms.

nate895 made a wonderful explaination.

 

[nate895]

nate895 made a wonderful explaination.

Grazie

 

[PlzPeopleWakeUp]

I love Big Brother.

 

[silus]

If you're bound to a particular approach you are going to be limited in your success. If you believe you can vary your approach infinitely as problems arise through intellect and reason you will only see whats in front of you.

This is liberalism and conservatism. And as always, the ideal approach is shaping ones principles in light of applicability and sustainability, allowing that to guide the more flexible decision making and reasoning.

Highly religious folks and idealists both suck at this. But I would have to say that you have less factors limiting your potential if you did not have any strong religious belief.

 

[New2Libertarianism]

MSM trying to make everyone hate G-d again.

 

[Liberty Stud]

Religion correlates to lower IQ. That's a fact.

Atheism correlates to higher IQ. Liberals tend to be less religious. Therefore, it's no real surprise that there might be some bump in IQ numbers for "liberals." Also, as others have pointed out, those who are brighter tend to go to college, and are then subject to all the Marxist professors that plague our higher education systems.

But I would bet my last dollar that "atheist libertarians" would have significantly higher IQs, on average, than "liberals."

Are there any studies of this type that include libertarians?

 

[FrankRep]

The IQ differences, while statistically significant, are not stunning -- on the order of 6 to 11 points -- and the data should not be used to stereotype or make assumptions about people, experts say.

This is a non-story. Over hyped, Sensationalism.

 

[PlzPeopleWakeUp]

I love Big Brother.

 

[Todd]

"Atheism" and liberalism makes one have a higher IQ? Wow. Now I've heard it all. Oh, wait a minute. We live in a time where people like AL Gore and Barack Obama can be awarded Nobel Peace Prizes, and all the while be wrong about their policies and beliefs. Yeah, IQ doesn't mean anything.

No kidding.....
Seems most IQ tests are geared as a measurement of the potential to learn and knowledge you already have.
It doesn't mean a damn thing if you don't have the capacity to APPLY any of it to the ability to critically think.

 

[LibForestPaul]

So what was the purpose behind that "report"?
Educate the masses?

More likely create false divides between people. Oh, you are religious, let me speak slower. I better not go to temple, might catch stupid.

What do you believe the reason for this article?

 

[nate895]

Religion correlates to lower IQ. That's a fact.

What do you say to my explanation of that phenomena in an earlier post?

 

[newbitech]

Correlation does not imply causation.

"It helps life to be paranoid, and because humans are paranoid, they become more religious, and they see the hands of God everywhere," Kanazawa said.

Here is where I think the 'researchers' went completely off the rails.

So lets flesh this out.

Act smart ->Do drugs -> Find God -> Vote for a NeoCon -> Enlist in the Military -> Become a Democrat -> Go Broke -> Act Smart

Yep, sounds like we have this trend figured out.

 

[RyanRSheets]

The IQ is a bullshit measure in the first place. Human viability is so much more complex than an arbitrary number. Those things can also be linked to indoctrination.

 

[newbitech]

I have a fairly high IQ... so I skipped the article entirely.

nice, I was hoping the article had some more Matt Collins pics.

 

[Liberty Stud]

When I took a do-it-yourself MENSA IQ test, I scored better than 98.7% of the population (it only gave you a percentile score), and I'm extremely religious.

My guess as to the reason why these stats are the case has more to do with the popularity of atheism/agnosticism. Those theological positions are outside of the mainstream of thought in today's society, and generally people who hold to minority positions like that have higher IQs because they are more curious than the average Joe. The default positions in today's society as far as religion goes is to be moderately religious. Most of the people who are moderately religious are there simply because that is the way to be. I guess if they actually did this study in a society where atheism is the default position, and religious conservatism is an extreme minority, the situation could easily be reversed.

Not likely. Higher intelligence, with all other factors being equal (culture, etc), correlates with superior critical-thinking ability. Superior critical thinking leads to an examination of the lacking "evidence" for modern religious claims, and therefore, less religious belief.

This is also true of belief in things such as astrology, alien abductions, etc, which have no real evidence behind them. Critical thinkers require evidence for extraordinary claims.

So I think your idea is wrong. The smartest people would not suddenly turn off their critical-thinking faculties and rush to embrace some kind of nonsense belief.