Here comes another war - Bhutto killed

Hint for the insta-pundits:
Before her triumphant return - that only her clan cared for - Bhutto spent weeks in New York lining up the ducks (or so she thought). Again, New York, not Washington DC where one would expect someone to lobby for approval, nope, New York.

Signing that "Musharraf wants to kill me" letter sealed her faith. Musharraf is not amused, and "dumb bitch" is about right.

What a relieve the Ron Paul is handling foreign policy for the revolution... :D
 
I am currently at work and won't go to a site I am unfamiliar with but do you actually believe that? The media was also saying that Al-Qaeda was responsible for the forest fires out in California at first, I hope you didnt believe that as well.

Given that Al-Qaeda has tried to kill her before I think that it is likely they were involved. She represents everything that they hate and are not about to tolerate a SECULAR WOMAN in charge. She said herself that extremists represented the greatest threat to her country.
 
Wow. A Sad day for any kind of democratic process. My condolences to her family, friends and supporters.
 
I posted this in the other thread, but Bhutto and her husband were exlied from Pakistan for being major corrupt/money smuggling dirtbags.

It seems like many people are quick to forget that OR just don't know?

All that being said, "dumb bitch" is pretty low brow.

There was no proof. Trumped up charges against poltical opponants is pretty common. The important thing to understand is that the commoners were behind her. Why did Musharref declare martial law? Why did he try and suspend elections, suspend habeus corpus? Throw lawyers, journalists in jail, beat and torture them? He was hellbent on stopping their freedom movement.

Of course when things go awry, blame the terrorists. Governments have been doing this for centuries whenever there is a big power grab going on.
 
We could debate about the "proof" of Bhutto all day.

HOWEVER, what we should all take away from this-

Musharref does what he does because we've empowered him to do so, end of story.
 
Horrible news.

And you guys who are so quick to shrug this off as cia or blackwater or "the neocons" or whatever, you guys really don't know squat. Do you guys know how prevalent terrorism is in Pakistan? There are more than 5 home-grown terrorist organizations in Pakistan alone, over 900 people were killed in attacks and bombings in 2006, both musharref and bhutto have been targeted for assassination numerous times in the past few years, the Pakistani army fought a damn war a few years ago against pro-taliban and al-qaeda militants in the north, where over 1000 pakistani soldiers died.

Just because invading countries as part of plan to kill terrorists does us more harm in the long run, does not mean that terrorism or extremism by religious radicals does not exist or is not a threat to many countries in the world. Some of you need to take your heads out of your asses and wake up.
 
The neocons have made an alliance with the military dictatorship in Pakistan. In exchange for not pushing for democracy and letting the military dictatorship remain in charge of Pakistan, the military dictatorship must not let the Jihadists get their hands on Pakistan's nuclear weapons. Bhutto's anticipated popular election was going to upset this convenient arrangement. Hence, I would not be surprised if years later someone publishes the equivalent of the Pentagon Papers that disclose how Bhutto was taken out by the Pakistani military with a wink and a nod from the neocons in charge of the White House and the CIA.

By the way, the above arrangement explains why Bin Laden has not been captured even though he is known to be hiding in NW Pakistan. The Pakistani military extracted a quid pro quo from the Bush White House whereby Bin Laden would remain free in NW Pakistan in exchange for the Pakistani military remaining in firm control of the country and its nuclear arsenal. This way the Pakistani military can assuage the Jihadists' hatred for the Pakistani military by letting Bin Laden live in exchange for the Jihadists murdering any advocates of democracy in Pakistan. In essence, an axis of power has developed between the Neocons within the Beltway, the Pakistani military, and the Pakistani Jihadists.
 
Horrible news.

And you guys who are so quick to shrug this off as cia or blackwater or "the neocons" or whatever, you guys really don't know squat. Do you guys know how prevalent terrorism is in Pakistan? There are more than 5 home-grown terrorist organizations in Pakistan alone, over 900 people were killed in attacks and bombings in 2006, both musharref and bhutto have been targeted for assassination numerous times in the past few years, the Pakistani army fought a damn war a few years ago against pro-taliban and al-qaeda militants in the north, where over 1000 pakistani soldiers died.

Just because invading countries as part of plan to kill terrorists does us more harm in the long run, does not mean that terrorism or extremism by religious radicals does not exist or is not a threat to many countries in the world. Some of you need to take your heads out of your asses and wake up.

You do realize that we put both Bhutto and Musharraf in power right? That backlash of extremists is backlash at a western imposed power. Just like 9/11 was backlash for numerous other deals we have perpetrated in the Middle East. You need to wake up that it isn't as simple as people hate other people for no reason. We created al-qaeda and Musharraf.
 
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Idiot. She obviously knew the risks, but considered the causes (freedom, democracy to Pakistan) worth dying for.

she was our tool, these countries dont want democracy.

Who in the hell would actually want a democracy? Democracies suck. I get so annoyed with the "making the world safe for democracy" BS. I don't even want the democracy we have here, much less spending our tax money making the rest of the world "safe" for it. Can we have our republic back please? Quit copying the MSM and the neocons who throw the democracy term around in every sentence.
 
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Who in the hell would actually want a democracy? Democracies suck. I get so annoyed with the "making the world safe for democracy" BS. I don't even want the democracy we have here, much less spending our tax money making the rest of the world "safe" for it. Can we have our republic back please? Quit copying the MSM and the neocons who throw the democracy term around in every sentence.

It's too late. Going against democracy is now a heresy, just like saying Lincoln did not free the slaves.
 
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I know all conspiracy BS. So spare your breath.

Im feel for you Oliver, being that ignorant must be really hard on your brain... or maybe you live in a land of bliss, where the children in Iraq sing and play with gumdrop smiles, and go swimming in rivers of chocolate... my apologies for the sarcasm, but that last statement holds as much weight as yours.. if you actually bothered to look a little deeper, you would find that the creator of From The Wilderness Publications hates Alex Jones more than you do.. this guy was one of the first to come out with information that conflicts with the gov's official story of 9/11, and every other story his publication breaks is always sourced and factually accurate... If you dont believe me, why dont you go to their website and disprove something they have written, you get a $1000 for every statement that is incorrect.. let me know how you go
 
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how's this for a conspiracy idea....

OK we will be winning the election this year until it gets canceled due to a threat or attack from Pakistan. We as a motivated group get pissed and protest. Since ALL of our troops will be in the middle east we would have to rely on UN and nato troops to save us...... and help from our neighbors to the north and south.....the NAU is solidified!



just had a thought and wasted your time!!
 
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