HEADS UP: Sheriff Joe Arpaio 2:30 Live Press Conference On Obama's Eligibility Thread

Why claim that he is, forge these documents, run him as president, etc. etc. If he isn't a citizen, who is gaining what from this? I'm not understanding the actual motive here.

Because now you have a "blackmailable" President in the Whitehouse that will be obliged to act in accordance to the wishes of his leaders.

I would not have such things a year or two ago, but if you try to be objective about this, it makes sense.

Romney could also be a blackmailable President.

Only Ron Paul can't.
 
They give out only computerized birth certificates in that state from what I have found out. That may explain why it would be on a pdf and multilayered.
 
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There's a simple non conspiratorial explanation....

He is a simple, "factual" explanation of the puppet concept.

  • Felix Frankfurter, Justice of the Supreme Court (1939-1962), said: "The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes."
  • February 23, 1954, Senator William Jenner warned in a speech: "Outwardly we have a Constitutional government. We have operating within our government and political system, another body representing another form of government, a bureaucratic elite which believes our Constitution is outmoded."
  • In a letter to an associate dated November 21, 1933, President Franklin Roosevelt wrote, "The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson."
 
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The computerized birth certificates in that state from what I have found out. That may explain why it would be on a pdf and multilayered.

It was presented as an original document, i.e. piece of paper.
Did you even watch this video?




This version is shorter and still proves the obvious fake:
 
"I also can't believe I have to explain that on a "Republican" forum! "

And it was Republican governor of Hawaii who had control of those birth records circa 2007-11 when Linda Lingle was in office. Don't you think if there was anything legitimately wrong with those records the party would have used that against him? Hmmmm?
 
I can't believe you're saying that. Did you listen to the March 1 conference? Did you also see what they found about the selective service card forgery?

Just about EVERYTHING about Obama historical records, school and college records, vaccination is missing. His social security card was issued from CT, a state where he never lived!

His very own biography on the pamphlets of his publishers (that Obama most likely wrote himself as authors do clear states he was born in Kenya).

To this day Hawaii will not produce the originals, the microfilms, nothing.

Please dedicate ONE HOUR of research and if you are personally honest with yourself, you will be convinced that Obama's story is a lie.

I also can't believe I have to explain that on a "Republican" forum!

There, you got it.
 
The doubters have latched onto the idea that Adobe Illustrator — the premier program for computer graphic artists — “reveals” evidence of document manipulation in the Obama birth certificate. They note Illustrator reveals nine separate layers of the document, and claim it’s “proof” the file has been altered.
But that’s not so, says Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator.

“You should not be so suspicious about this,” Tremblay told FoxNews.com, dismissing the allegations.
He said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery. “I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.
Tremblay explained that the scanner optical character recognition (OCR) software attempts to translate characters or words in a photograph into text. He said the layers cited by the doubters shows that software at work – and nothing more.
“When you open it in Illustrator it looks like layers, but it doesn’t look like someone built it from scratch. If someone made a fake it wouldn’t look like this,” he said.“Some scanning software is trying to separate the background and the text and splitting element into layers and parts of layers.”

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/29/expert-says-obamas-birth-certificate-legit/#ixzz20wFRAiZH


Read the full article from an Expert: No Doubt Obama's Birth Certificate Is Legit

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/29/expert-says-obamas-birth-certificate-legit/#ixzz20wF0aMqg
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/29/expert-says-obamas-birth-certificate-legit/
 
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The Sheriff of your county has higher law enforcement power than ANY federal agency.

Only IN that county, though. And I believe there are even stipulations to that, such as not being allowed to arrest a congressman or senator when they're on their way to a vote.
 
"I also can't believe I have to explain that on a "Republican" forum! "

And it was Republican governor of Hawaii who had control of those birth records circa 2007-11 when Linda Lingle was in office. Don't you think if there was anything legitimately wrong with those records the party would have used that against him? Hmmmm?

And be called racists? Right!

But the argument still doesn't hold true regardless. Besides, the Democratic governor friend of Obama couldn't even find the birth cerificate, then it suddenly appeared in the same book and page and date order where any 4th grade student should have been able to find it.
 
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Okay, question:

Let's assume for a moment that President Obama is, in fact, not a legal US citizen.

Why claim that he is, forge these documents, run him as president, etc. etc. If he isn't a citizen, who is gaining what from this? I'm not understanding the actual motive here.

It is simply the opposite of Ron Paul. Ron Paul wants to affirm the Constitution but others want to completely nullify it.
 
Here is another video that shows evidence that it is real

Obama Birth Certificates are real see video


None of that is evidence and it ignores all the real issues already raised previously in this thread. It is not even the same birth certificate discussed here, and this was from three years ago.

Additionally, the newspaper articles do not prove he was born on that day, as there were numerous ways births were reported to the newspapers during that period that were not verified.

That newpaper article provides nothing as evidence, only that they sent what they feel is verification to Arizona, which is being investigated by Arpaio and only raises more questions.

The only thing that is for certain is that a large portion of Obama's past is an unverifiable mystery.
Fail. Try again.
 
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For you birthers I found this and it is pretty good for convincing people that he may have been born in Kenya.







Another thing to wonder is if Obama was born in Kenya would he still be considered a US Natural born citizen.


here is what one of the commenters on the last video said it makes one think. Since his mother is a citizen does it matter if he was not born in the USA?
'Natual born citizen' does NOT mean you must have two U.S. citizen parents. It does matter where you are born, it does NOT mean both your parents must be citizens.

Here is a video that claims Obama can't remember his birthday of all things.
 
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Obvious fraud is obvious.



I can't believe anyone thinks an original document will turn into a .pdf with layers.

WHY ARE PEOPLE SO OBSESSED WITH LAYERS?!

Look at the alleged "LAYERS" they're a jumble of gibberish text, the scanning software *tries* to interpret the letters so the document can become searchable (ctrl+f) thats why SOME scanned docs can be word searched.
 
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