HEADS UP: Sheriff Joe Arpaio 2:30 Live Press Conference On Obama's Eligibility Thread

[S.Shorland]

My version said 40,000 views.It's so obviously a forgery.

 

[NoOneButPaul]

Original docs do not turn into .pdf's with layers.

1) If the fake birth document is actually fake, then it IS truly important.
2) The fake doc is such an obvious fake, how can anyone not know by now?

Its so obvious despite an outpouring of attention and money not 1 shred of decent evidence has crossed anyone's desk.

This story has been going forever, they've found nothing, Trump found nothing, Arpaio found nothing, the State of Arizona's Attorney concluded it was sufficient when he asked to see it. On and on and on and on it goes... more proof to more people its real yet you still you guys pound home about nothing when you could be out advancing the liberty movement or wasting your time discussing things that actually matter politically.

This is nothing, and will never be taken seriously be anyone. It hasn't yet, it never will, period. Move on... it's real, he's an American. Work on getting him out of office...

 

[RonRules]

My version said 40,000 views.It's so obviously a forgery.

Yes the TOTAL views was 40,000, but the max real-time individuals listening at any time was near 20,000. (Sometimes people log off and others log in)

 

[Bruno]

Quit trying to herd cats and move on yourselves.

/cat herding

 

[RonRules]

This story has been going forever, they've found nothing, Trump found nothing, Arpaio found nothing,

I can't believe you're saying that. Did you listen to the March 1 conference? Did you also see what they found about the selective service card forgery?

Just about EVERYTHING about Obama historical records, school and college records, vaccination is missing. His social security card was issued from CT, a state where he never lived!

His very own biography on the pamphlets of his publishers (that Obama most likely wrote himself as authors do clear states he was born in Kenya).

To this day Hawaii will not produce the originals, the microfilms, nothing.

Please dedicate ONE HOUR of research and if you are personally honest with yourself, you will be convinced that Obama's story is a lie.

I also can't believe I have to explain that on a "Republican" forum!

 

[Indy Vidual]

I will prove you wrong, since you are seriously misinformed.

Its so obvious despite an outpouring of attention and money not 1 shred of decent evidence has crossed anyone's desk....

This one takes a bit longer (Geek oriented), if you have the time to see how incorrect you are:



This version is shorter and still proves you are seriously mistaken about lack of evidence.


FYI: The first video includes showing the download straight from the Whitehouse site.

 

[kathy88]

IF he is not a citizen and IF he gets away with it, the precedent will never be recovered from. And I don't mean the citizenship issue. The shit will roll downhill faster than we can run.

 

[hazek]

Here's a pretty complete summary of the press conference with all the facts that were presented and 0 propaganda or opinion:
http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/arpaio-obama-probe-finds-national-security-threat/?cat_orig=us

 

[Lafayette]

If Joe wants to attempt to arrest Obama, great! If he is hurt or captured in the process, well... one less tyrannical police state enforcer on the street.

Its really a win win either way.

 

[RonRules]

Here's a pretty complete summary of the press conference with all the facts that were presented and 0 propaganda or opinion:
http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/arpaio-obama-probe-finds-national-security-threat/?cat_orig=us

Excellent article well worth taking 5 minutes to read it. Also, I'm impressed that there's already 725 comments!

Some relevant parts:

- The sheriff’s investigators have learned of a birth certificate coding system that indicates the White House document has been altered.

- An interview with the Hawaii official who allegedly signed the Obama document in 1961, Verna K.L. Lee, provided further confirmation of the coding anomalies.

- Investigators were troubled to find key information missing on the verification document Hawaii provided to Arizona’s secretary of state in May.

- Hawaii’s deputy attorney general, Jill T. Nagamine, confirm the state has a birth document on file for Obama. But she would not confirm on the record that the White House document matched what was on file with the Hawaii Department of Health.

- The sheriff’s investigators interviewed three persons of interest who have provided additional information in the case.

The codes seen on the document issued by the White House are not consistent with the information entered into the various fields, indicating the document has been altered or amended.

In the coding system, the number 9 indicates the information is not stated, meaning there should not be any information in the box in which the number is written.

However, the number 9 can be seen written in pencil next to the fields for “Usual Occupation,” “Kind of Business or Industry” and “Race of Father” on Obama’s document. Each of those fields are filled with information.

“This proves the document has been tampered with and information has been placed on it,” Zullo said.

Sheriff’s investigators tracked down the registrar who allegedly signed the White House’s birth document, U.K. Lee, who is now 95. She provided information that posed further inconsistencies with the story of Obama’s birth at the Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital in 1961.

(She's the last living person named on that birth certificate. They also recorded her)

 

[RonRules]

If Joe wants to attempt to arrest Obama, great! If he is hurt or captured in the process, well... one less tyrannical police state enforcer on the street.

The Sheriff of your county has higher law enforcement power than ANY federal agency.

 

[Indy Vidual]

Excellent article well worth taking 5 minutes to read it...
..

“This proves the document has been tampered with and information has been placed on it,” Zullo said....

These prove it more clearly:



This version is shorter and still proves the obvious fake:

 

[TheTexan]

These prove it more clearly:

I'm a bit late to this party it seems. Has anyone on these forums independently verified this video, using the PDF from whitehouse.gov?

 

[Bruno]

I'm a bit late to this party it seems. Has anyone on these forums independently verified this video, using the PDF from whitehouse.gov?

Some hre did their own work on it the very day it came out, while the media accepted the BS and moved on. "nothing to see here, folks!"

 

[Indy Vidual]

Some hre did their own work on it the very day it came out, while the media accepted the BS and moved on. "nothing to see here, folks!"

Yes I just proved it, but didn't take time to make screenshots.
Wow.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf
^^^
Open in Adobe Illustrator and turn off some layers.

 

[Original_Intent]

I'm a bit late to this party it seems. Has anyone on these forums independently verified this video, using the PDF from whitehouse.gov?

Canada Free Press did quite an intensive series of stories a year or more ago that were incredibly detailed...nothing that they found today is really news, but it does seem that a majority of people have been successfully herded into the "if you question the birth certificate, you are a racist redneck bastard." mindset.

Even many people on this forum and other good people on other forums have adopted the "nothing to see here, move along" attitude, when in fact, anyone that spends even an hour of research (whether intending to prove it fake or intending to prove it authentic) will come away believing that the whitehouse.gov birth certificate is authentic. It doesn;t prove Obama wasn't born in Hawaii. or that he was born in Kenya, or anything else. But anyone that will exert any effort to prove or disprove will quickly understand that what was on the whitehouse site was a forged document, and wouldn't be accepted in any court of law as proof of citizenship. And yes, I followed the steps in the video, viewed the b.c. directly on the whitehouse.gov website and all of the problems pointed out were there.

The first obvious problem is there is no legitimate reason that a simply scanned document would become a multiple layered PDF file, and further no explanation was ever given for this - anyone that brought it up was shouted down as an obvious racist.

Another was that the print did not follow the bend of the page near the binding. This is something that is hard to detect but once pointed out again is obvious and indisputable evidence that it was forged.

And there is a LOT more. And the problem for obama and defenders is that any ONE of those things is DAMNING evidence that it is a forgery. Now, Like Sheriff Joe said, they are not accusing Obama of anything. But somebody somewhere forged the document. That is something that I have known with absolute certainty for more than a year, but like most things, it's not what you know, and in truth it is not even what you can prove, it is what you can get enough people to reject the propaganda about.

 

[donnay]

This is what can be next if we do not care about Obama's eligibility.

 

[The Other Andy]

Okay, question:

Let's assume for a moment that President Obama is, in fact, not a legal US citizen.

Why claim that he is, forge these documents, run him as president, etc. etc. If he isn't a citizen, who is gaining what from this? I'm not understanding the actual motive here.

 

[Indy Vidual]

Okay, question:

Let's assume for a moment that President Obama is, in fact, not a legal US citizen.

Why claim that he is, forge these documents, run him as president, etc. etc. If he isn't a citizen, who is gaining what from this? I'm not understanding the actual motive here.

He is a perfect puppet, obeying his masters so they do not expose him. If he stops obeying then they can bring him down at any time.

History repeats...
The Clinton's had Whitewater, and they obeyed.
Saddam Hussein stopped obeying; He got killed.
Manuel Antonio Noriega stopped obeying, and he got removed from power.
Remember Nixon? etc. etc. etc.

 

[hazek]

Okay, question:

Let's assume for a moment that President Obama is, in fact, not a legal US citizen.

Why claim that he is, forge these documents, run him as president, etc. etc. If he isn't a citizen, who is gaining what from this? I'm not understanding the actual motive here.

There's a simple non conspiratorial explanation.. His parents or friends of parents weaseled themselves into getting him a birth certificate even though he wasn't actually born in Hawaii thinking he'll have a better life this way.. If he was a regular guy, no one would have ever cared and he would have lived his life as an ordinary citizen but since he just so happens to be in politics and sitting on the most important chair at that this little part of his history is getting more limelight than he can afford if he doesn't want to reveal where he was actually born.

If you listened to the press conference they discovered a legal loop hole that enables almost anybody to get a birth certificate, Obama might just be one of them who got it but shouldn't have. There's no ruse in this, no conspiracy, just a stupid rule by a gang of psychopaths and a psychopath who perhaps broke it and is now trying to hide it in order to keep his position among the psychopaths, that's all.