Hawaii Denies Requests for Obama's Birth Certificate

[Bruno]

Is it me or has the intelligence dropped off on this board.

Focusing on specific issues inherently means you will be neglecting others to a degree, and this is what is necessary in working towards and accomplishing any task. This is the way of a world with limited resources. And this is why Ron Paul himself, in every interview, focuses on a limited set of issues. If he added this issue and others he would be diluting his message. That has fuck all to do with whether or not he follows the constitution.

Well, that's good, then, you can rest easy because I focus 0% of my energy on this issue outside of RPH, and probably the same amount on RPF commenting on it as you do disputing it.

And if some people have their apathy cured, who are you to say where they should focus their efforts? You're free to voice your opinion, as others are free to do with their time as they please, whether their pet issue is yours or not.

edit : I guess the same could have been said for those who want to End the Fed. "That'll never happen, quit wasting your time." and look where we are now with it.

 

[silus]

lol

Well i'm glad thats settled.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

this is the easiest debate of all debates to settle.
what the fuck are they hiding?

Especially when the state of Hawaii uses this lame excuse:

Okubo says that the law is necessary to protect against "identity theft"...

Are you kidding me, is that the best excuse that Hawaii can justify?

 

[Juan McCain]

I really think it looks like he wasn't born on US soil . . .

I have always just thought this was always about people who do not understand that natural born citizen means native-born on U.S. soil.

Wouldn't Kenya have a birth certificate if BO was born there ?

Posey told WorldNet Daily, "The only people I know who are afraid to take drug tests are the people who use drugs."

This isn't true at all.

 

[Slutter McGee]

I suspect that he was born in Hawaii. I think it is good political strategy to keep his birth certificate covered up though. If he reveals it, all of a sudden the birthers go away, but as they are now, most do not create positive press. It gives the media the ability to demonize a large segment of the Republican party into the same area as truthers.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

I have always just thought this was always about people who do not understand that natural born citizen means native-born on U.S. soil.

Wouldn't Kenya have a birth certificate if BO was born there ?



This isn't true at all.

The government of Keyna has sealed all records related to Obama and his family. Seal meaning, NOONE has access to any documents.

 

[Bruno]

I suspect that he was born in Hawaii. I think it is good political strategy to keep his birth certificate covered up though. If he reveals it, all of a sudden the birthers go away, but as they are now, most do not create positive press. It gives the media the ability to demonize a large segment of the Republican party into the same area as truthers.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

I think that was more of a political strategy that had to be made up to counter the argument by name calling because the issue wouldn't go away. The press and the adminstration in no way wanted to address this early in the campaign, or at any time, really.

 

[Peace&Freedom]

So you're dumb enough to subscribe to his argument? I guess it really is me then.

What it really is, is a matter of consistency. Constitutional issues matter, period. Not "your constitutional issues are stupid, only my constitutional issues count, so shut up about it." If we had pressed the matter of Barry's records as a unified front from the start, the constitutionally ineligible president wouldn't be in office doing the patently unconstitutional things we're complaining about.

 

[silus]

And if some people have their apathy cured, who are you to say where they should focus their efforts? You're free to voice your opinion, as others are free to do with their time as they please, whether their pet issue is yours or not.

edit : I guess the same could have been said for those who want to End the Fed. "That'll never happen, quit wasting your time." and look where we are now with it.

1. I'm not trying to say where a given people should focus their efforts, i'm trying to say a specific place (Ronpaulforums.com) should keep its message centered on the message of the man himself.

2. The Fed is a main issue for RP, this is not. And you're right, look how far we have gotten by just following his lead...

 

[Bruno]

1. I'm not trying to say where a given people should focus their efforts, i'm trying to say a specific place (Ronpaulforums.com) should keep its message centered on the message of the man himself.

2. The Fed is a main issue for RP, this is not. And you're right, look how far we have gotten by just following his lead...

I think we can agree that focusing our energy on adhering to the Constution is appropriate, regardless of whether Ron endorses the idea of questioning Obama's legitimacy as a president or not.

If we followed # 1 above to the letter, there'd be no reason for 90% of the threads in Hot Topics, including the Official Guy's Thread.