Hand count in audit affirms Biden beat Trump

[TheCount]

But you do the same thing. You're just so worried about people on the right making money off of fraud claims. So worried about us being 'taken for a ride', to paraphrase.

For the record, I have never donated to any of Trump's election lawsuit funds, nor purchased anything from Mike Lindell. I would imagine that few if any people on these forums have. Guess what? If people want to do that, I don't really care, and I really don't know why you do. But you guys seem genuinely concerned about other people's spending habits. EVEN IF I WAS SPENDING MY MONEY ON THESE EFFORTS, I could point to a number of causes that I have financially supported that originated on these forums (Remember Ron Paul Nascar ads? Yeah I donated to that), that would have qualified as being just as wasteful, if not more-so than, donations to Trump. I'm not terribly torn up about it. Why the hell are you and TheCount giving yourselves aneurisms over it?

I'm not concerned about people's spending habits, I think it's hilarious and I'm making fun of it.


Anyway, let's all head over to Lindell's new TV channel so that we can tune in to Sidney Powell as she drops Kraken 2: Vote Fraud Boogaloo! A good time will be had by all.

 

[donnay]

https://www.azcentral.com/story/new...rt-confirms-biden-beat-trump-2020/5835521001/


The differences between the audit and original count:
+99 Biden votes
-269 Trump votes

Yeah riiiight. If you believe this nonsense, you are too gullible to even debate how they rigged elections.

 

[Snowball]

That would not surprise me. The Trump and Clinton families and for that matter the elite families are closer than what is publicly portrayed. That kind of truth will never be known to average folks since the news media is all on the same side as the elites. There is no independent news media that is not connected to the club that would reveal that kind of truth. We are from all over the country in this forum but have common knowledge from visiting the same news sources owned and operated by the elites. The familiarity we have with these same news sources would not have happened without their help and that is intentional.

Feinberg, Fisher, Adelson, Markus, and other oligarchs that initiated the Trump effort early were instrumental in creating and funding a new "alternative" in the conspiracy-"alt-right" online communities. "Q" was a big part of that, however all the newly-launched yellow-journalism of the 21st Century, the fake-news website, astroturf campaigns and social media onslaught that was the 2016 Trump campaign really did a fantastic job under Jared Kushner and Trump Jr. that was savvy and well-heeled, using Israeli hasbara online tactics - ingenious - to dominate the "alternative" news cycle with preposterous and unverified smears against many Democrats and all Trump's GOP contender opponents. Ridiculous as they were (Ted Cruz's father killed JFK, Marco Rubio is gay because he was swimming in a pool with other young men), enough paid-or-otherwise people fell for it. Sean Adl-Tabatabai and Sinclair Treadway, Jack Posobiec, Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin, Jim Hoft, Michael D. Moore, Laura Loomer, Peter Thiel, and many others, rising in the ranks through this network, really changed the mindset of the online community. We saw it happen, it was revolutionary and bore no resemblence to the prior community before Trump's campaign. David Pecker also helped a lot. He quashed bad stories about Trump and published anti-Cruz material in the National Enquirer. Somehow, Alex Jones was brought in, with Roger Stone and Steve Pieczenik. We could estimate that the alternative community was flooded with over 100% more participants, chatting about stories that were formulated behind-the-scenes by professionals, supervised by lawyers, and implemented by internet wizards with tons of new cash to work with. Secretly, the elite's search engines, which they placed in a position of dominance over more honest search engines a decade before, all cooperated, as did the new "social media" outlets. To this day, there is a war against truther message boards, websites, blogs, et. al. that are not connected with or owned by the elites.

Meanwhile, on the mainstream channels, the rise of OANN under Robert Herring (a top GOP donor), the assistance of the Murdochs and their puppets at what was still the "old Fox news", and the brilliant hiring of Katrina Pierson (whose role is still underestimated) hammered home the talking points all night long to the American public, while the seedy underbelly was working on the under-50 crowd online. It was something a totally traditional Clinton campaign struggled to countermand, and it succeded late in a surge that barely overcome enough states to bring victory, along with which Trump paid back his dues to those who made it all happen. Will conservatives back this group yet again ? It's very possible. These things are not well understood, and never will be by enough voters. I do, however, believe there has been a maturation, and people are generally less gullible today than they were in 2016.

The onus is on the honest, to the bone conservatives, will they move on or back Trump again? He needs them all, but I don't think he can get enough of them this time. There is a lot of intimidation and deals taking place in the GOP. What IS the GOP, really? We're going to find out if any of its character remains. Otherwise, it's doomed. The Democrats can only mess this up themselves, but they won't. Not going in to 2022 or 2024. The Republicans are not going to win 2024 with Trump, period. He is a foil, at this point. If the GOP loses 2022 and 2024, there is no reason for conservatives to vote anymore. They are demographically incapable of winning national majorities or the presidency. Conservatism in the Democratic party would be a better avenue for exploration.

I don't think Trump will actually run all the way in 2024, because his poll numbers will be so low that he won't get the funding. His low poll numbers will impact the entire GOP effort. The pathetic ridiculousness of all this really says a lot about our form of government and how much it has failed us.

 

[kahless]

Feinberg, Fisher, Adelson, Markus, and other oligarchs that initiated the Trump effort early were instrumental in creating and funding a new "alternative" in the conspiracy-"alt-right" online communities. "Q" was a big part of that, however all the newly-launched yellow-journalism of the 21st Century, the fake-news website, astroturf campaigns and social media onslaught that was the 2016 Trump campaign really did a fantastic job under Jared Kushner and Trump Jr. that was savvy and well-heeled, using Israeli hasbara online tactics - ingenious - to dominate the "alternative" news cycle with preposterous and unverified smears against many Democrats and all Trump's GOP contender opponents. Ridiculous as they were (Ted Cruz's father killed JFK, Marco Rubio is gay because he was swimming in a pool with other young men), enough paid-or-otherwise people fell for it. Sean Adl-Tabatabai and Sinclair Treadway, Jack Posobiec, Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin, Jim Hoft, Michael D. Moore, Laura Loomer, Peter Thiel, and many others, rising in the ranks through this network, really changed the mindset of the online community. We saw it happen, it was revolutionary and bore no resemblence to the prior community before Trump's campaign. David Pecker also helped a lot. He quashed bad stories about Trump and published anti-Cruz material in the National Enquirer. Somehow, Alex Jones was brought in, with Roger Stone and Steve Pieczenik. We could estimate that the alternative community was flooded with over 100% more participants, chatting about stories that were formulated behind-the-scenes by professionals, supervised by lawyers, and implemented by internet wizards with tons of new cash to work with. Secretly, the elite's search engines, which they placed in a position of dominance over more honest search engines a decade before, all cooperated, as did the new "social media" outlets. To this day, there is a war against truther message boards, websites, blogs, et. al. that are not connected with or owned by the elites.

Meanwhile, on the mainstream channels, the rise of OANN under Robert Herring (a top GOP donor), the assistance of the Murdochs and their puppets at what was still the "old Fox news", and the brilliant hiring of Katrina Pierson (whose role is still underestimated) hammered home the talking points all night long to the American public, while the seedy underbelly was working on the under-50 crowd online. It was something a totally traditional Clinton campaign struggled to countermand, and it succeded late in a surge that barely overcome enough states to bring victory, along with which Trump paid back his dues to those who made it all happen. Will conservatives back this group yet again ? It's very possible. These things are not well understood, and never will be by enough voters. I do, however, believe there has been a maturation, and people are generally less gullible today than they were in 2016.

The onus is on the honest, to the bone conservatives, will they move on or back Trump again? He needs them all, but I don't think he can get enough of them this time. There is a lot of intimidation and deals taking place in the GOP. What IS the GOP, really? We're going to find out if any of its character remains. Otherwise, it's doomed. The Democrats can only mess this up themselves, but they won't. Not going in to 2022 or 2024. The Republicans are not going to win 2024 with Trump, period. He is a foil, at this point. If the GOP loses 2022 and 2024, there is no reason for conservatives to vote anymore. They are demographically incapable of winning national majorities or the presidency. Conservatism in the Democratic party would be a better avenue for exploration.

I don't think Trump will actually run all the way in 2024, because his poll numbers will be so low that he won't get the funding. His low poll numbers will impact the entire GOP effort. The pathetic ridiculousness of all this really says a lot about our form of government and how much it has failed us.

Great post. "He is a foil, at this point". Exactly.

 

[kahless]

100s of people on Twitter? Uh no. More like 100s of people who testified before panels of congress people in multiple 8 hour sessions.

You have been fed bullshit by the elites and you have willingly gobbled it up faster than John Candy eating his lasagna.

I expected better from you. I will lower my expectations, accordingly.

And fuck Lindell. If that's your source ur doing it wrong.

Again, I did not say there was not voter fraud. You have been fed bullshit by scam artists blowing it out of proportion. As you know from my posts here I do not take anything from the elites given my prior history with many of the people we discuss here.

You got scammed and it is easy to believe in the scam when the scammers are those you feel represent your beliefs that in some cases do have legitimate evidence of fraud. To give an example, it is like if I sold everything in my house and then claimed everything is missing because I have a videos of different people stealing lawn chairs from my backyard.

 

[TheTexan]

Again, I did not say there was not voter fraud. You have been fed bullshit by scam artists blowing it out of proportion. As you know from my posts here I do not take anything from the elites given my prior history with many of the people we discuss here.

You got scammed and it is easy to believe in the scam when the scammers are those you feel represent your beliefs that in some cases do have legitimate evidence of fraud. To give an example, it is like if I sold everything in my house and then claimed everything is missing because I have a videos of different people stealing lawn chairs from my backyard.

I didn't say you said there was not voter fraud.

What I said was, there is a massive amount of documented voter fraud in this election, which separates it from most elections. Do you disagree with that statement?

And yes, you don't like to hear it, but it was you that was spoon fed bullshit by the elites. You got scammed and you don't want to admit it to yourself because it would open up doors in your brain that you would very much prefer to remain closed. What other bullshit have you happily lapped up that the elites have served to you? Best keep that door closed.

 

[Sammy]

We all know that you voted for Biden.

 

[acptulsa]

We all know that you voted for Biden.

You didn't vote for my lesser evil, so you clearly voted for that other insanely evil evil. There was no Jo Jorgensen, there was no alternative, it wasn't even possible to say screw it and stay home. If you didn't vote for the spoiled New York asshole ex-Democrat who conspired with Nancy Pelosi to trash the Constitution you were absolutely forced to vote for the child molester.

God please save us, we're clearly incapable of saving ourselves. I know life imitates art, but why did you bastards have to imitate The Simpsons?

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

I'm not concerned about people's spending habits, I think it's hilarious and I'm making fun of it.


Anyway, let's all head over to Lindell's new TV channel so that we can tune in to Sidney Powell as she drops Kraken 2: Vote Fraud Boogaloo! A good time will be had by all.

A better time will be had by making fun of you and your employer, the Open Society Foundations. We can tune in 2022 to see if your organization's grant came through!

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

How many pillows do I need to buy to find out whether any of those ballots are actually fraudulent?

Hey, weren't all you libs trying to put Mike Lindell out of business? How'd that work out of ya?

ROTFLMAO!

 

[devil21]

Hey, weren't all you libs trying to put Mike Lindell out of business? How'd that work out of ya?

ROTFLMAO!

I think his business has suffered a lot more from the supply chain difficulties obtaining super cheap recycled foam mattress shreds for his grossly overpriced products. I suspect tanking business forecasts is why he jumped into political grift.

I'll never forget the first pillow commercial I saw. He had (and I assume still does) a big gold cross necklace prominently hanging from his neck. Immediate reaction was "that's a huckster. anyone who goes out of their way to display how pious they are while selling something is a huckster."

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

I think his business has suffered a lot more from the supply chain difficulties obtaining super cheap recycled foam mattress shreds for his grossly overpriced products. I suspect tanking business forecasts is why he jumped into political grift.

I'll never forget the first pillow commercial I saw. He had (and I assume still does) a big gold cross necklace prominently hanging from his neck. Immediate reaction was "that's a huckster. anyone who goes out of their way to display how pious they are while selling something is a huckster."

I don't know his product quality, but I have pillow from another company that costs over $100. Some American quality (e.g., Amish) is sometimes far better. You get what you pay for.

I think Lindell was a drug addict, so maybe his personality just latches on to things and the election replaced cocaine?

His cross isn't that big. At least it's not gangster size. I live in baptist heaven, once dated an evangelical Christian, and have lots of evangelical friends. Yes, some of them advertise their beliefs, but it's often a fine line between who you are versus vanity. I take it with a grain of salt.

 

[devil21]

I don't know his product quality, but I have pillow from another company that costs over $100. Some American quality (e.g., Amish) is sometimes far better. You get what you pay for.

I think Lindell was a drug addict, so maybe his personality just latches on to things and the election replaced cocaine?

His cross isn't that big. At least it's not gangster size. I live in baptist heaven, once dated an evangelical Christian, and have lots of evangelical friends. Yes, some of them advertise their beliefs, but it's often a fine line between who you are versus vanity. I take it with a grain of salt.

No, not gangsta sized, just very intentionally placed to immediately advertise how pious he is. Or, given the circus of nonsense out of him ever since the election, how pious he wants people to think he is. I'm pretty sure Christ would frown on grifting people's money through falsehoods. Such things are much more in line with the Catholic Church's MO than anything Christ would advocate.

 

[kahless]

No, not gangsta sized, just very intentionally placed to immediately advertise how pious he is. Or, given the circus of nonsense out of him ever since the election, how pious he wants people to think he is. I'm pretty sure Christ would frown on grifting people's money through falsehoods. Such things are much more in line with the Catholic Church's MO than anything Christ would advocate.

Back then he was saying his Pillows cure Cerebral Palsy and other ailments. Playing to religion and that should have been obvious to everyone he is a scam artist. The social engineering driven by Fox News I think people turn their brains off when watching and simply accept that these are the good guys.

 

[phill4paul]

It's just awesome how a thread on voter fraud has simply turned into a thread about Mike Lindell. Even though the Arizona audit has NOTHING to do with him.

Successful forum slide is successful.

 

[TheTexan]

It's just awesome how a thread on voter fraud has simply turned into a thread about Mike Lindell. Even though the Arizona audit has NOTHING to do with him.

Successful forum slide is successful.

Welcome to the internet, where we cater to the lowest common denominator

 

[TheTexan]

Back then he was saying his Pillows cure Cerebral Palsy and other ailments. Playing to religion and that should have been obvious to everyone he is a scam artist. The social engineering driven by Fox News I think people turn their brains off when watching and simply accept that these are the good guys.

Does anyone on this forum think Lindell is actually a reliable source of information?

 

[phill4paul]

Welcome to the internet, where we cater to the lowest common denominator

Well, the truth is it was a bullshit post to begin with. Posted slightly before the Mockingbird Media, including Drudge, spewed out the misinformation, regurgitating the same headline, without any context. If there were actual fact-checkers there would be a warning on this post that reads.

Fact-Oh-Meter: This post does not provide context. Therefore it is metered as...bullshit.

 

[acptulsa]

Well, the truth is it was a bull$#@! post to begin with. Posted slightly before the Mockingbird Media, including Drudge, spewed out the misinformation, regurgitating the same headline, without any context. If there were actual fact-checkers there would be a warning on this post that reads.

Fact-Oh-Meter: This post does not provide context. Therefore it is metered as...bull$#@!.

What other kind of post would generate 78 responses?

Hey, guys. The ex-president conspired with the Speaker of the other party to deep six the Constitution.

 

[kahless]

It's just awesome how a thread on voter fraud has simply turned into a thread about Mike Lindell. Even though the Arizona audit has NOTHING to do with him.

I am not sure about your experience but the few people I know that brought his Pillows found them to be of very poor quality compared to that high price point.