Hand count in audit affirms Biden beat Trump

[RJB]

Just my observation... I notice that those self proclaimed peacemakers who say that the elite are purposely pitting ourselves against each other are also the most contentious (outright or passive aggressively) on the forum. It's a bit two faced, IMO.

 

[RJB]

I am not sure about your experience but the few people I know that brought his Pillows found them to be of very poor quality compared to that high price point.

And that means that there is no voter fraud. Thanks for clearing that up. Now we can get back to enjoying baseball.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Just my observation... I notice that those self proclaimed peacemakers who say that the elite are purposely pitting ourselves against each other are also the most contentious (outright or passive aggressively) on the forum. It's a bit two faced, IMO.

Strange how that is, isn't it?

 

[RJB]

Seriously, who are you and what's your angle?

In 2015/16 you (along with Enhanced Deficit) bought Trump's BS like he was the Messiah. You engaged in very highly emotionally charged arguments in defense of him against many respected members on the forum.

After the 2016 election, you savagely attacked Gunny Freedom for his prior attacks against Trump. His attacks were equalling as emotional as your defenses. The past was the past. You should have let it go, but wouldn't. You did everything you could to derail Gunny's political career. As for Gunny, he is one of the most sincere defenders of liberty on this forum. I have occasionally disagreed with him, but I have never doubted his sincerity.

Now, long after you were duped in your belief that Trump was the 2nd coming or whatever, you are claiming that people who think that the Orange Man wasn't that bad and believe that some questions about the last election haven't been answered properly are being duped.

I can't speak for AF, Phil, and others, but they seem consistent to me. They doubted Trump's claims at the start. They were pleasantly surprised by somethings he did and acknowledge that. They question some of the voting irregularities. That is consistent. You, on the other hand, are all over the spectrum.

I am not sure about your experience but the few people I know that brought his Pillows found them to be of very poor quality compared to that high price point.

 

[nobody's_hero]

Just my observation... I notice that those self proclaimed peacemakers who say that the elite are purposely pitting ourselves against each other are also the most contentious (outright or passive aggressively) on the forum. It's a bit two faced, IMO.

it's not just your observation.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Seriously, who are you and what's your angle?

In 2015/16 you (along with Enhanced Deficit) bought Trump'ss BS like he was the Messiah. You engaged in very highly emotionally charged arguments in defense of him against many respected members on the forum.

After the 2016 election, you savagely attacked Gunny Freedom for his prior attacks against Trump. His attacks were equalling as emotional as your defenses. The past was the past. You should have let it go, but wouldn't. You did everything you could to derail Gunny's political career. As for Gunny, he is one of the most sincere defenders of liberty on this forum. I have occasionally disagreed with him, but I have never doubted his sincerity.

I would like to see some of these posts and comments, because, now that you mention it, I seem to recall the same thing, although, to be honest, I have always found E-D to be cryptic, difficult to understand or to draw a clear point from.

Now, long after you were duped in your belief that Trump was the 2nd coming or whatever, you are claiming that people who think that the Orange Man wasn't that bad and believe that some questions about the last election haven't been answered properly are being duped.

I can't speak for AF, Phil, and others, but they seem consistent to me. They doubted Trump's claims at the start. They were pleasantly surprised by somethings he did and acknowledge that. They question some of the voting irregularities. That is consistent. You, on the other hand, are all over the spectrum.

You have correctly assessed my position on Trump.

It's never been any more than that.

That, and a recognition of how dangerous the current political opposition is.

This is not the usual post WW2 political banter back and forth, with the usual backroom backslapping and "lets all go chase hookers and blow in Georgetown".

A group of outright Marxists have seized power within the fedgov, and have declared me and my family to be the number one enemy of the new regime.

 

[BSWPaulsen]

After the 2016 election, you savagely attacked Gunny Freedom for his prior attacks against Trump. His attacks were equalling as emotional as your defenses. The past was the past. You should have let it go, but wouldn't. You did everything you could to derail Gunny's political career. As for Gunny, he is one of the most sincere defenders of liberty on this forum. I have occasionally disagreed with him, but I have never doubted his sincerity.

There are certain posters that I miss seeing around, and Gunny is one of them. It is disheartening to hear all that transpired.

I would like to see some of these posts and comments, because, now that you mention it, I seem to recall the same thing, although, to be honest, I have always found E-D to be cryptic, difficult to understand or to draw a clear point from.

Cryptic is an understatement at times.

Just my observation... I notice that those self proclaimed peacemakers who say that the elite are purposely pitting ourselves against each other are also the most contentious (outright or passive aggressively) on the forum. It's a bit two faced, IMO.

They have it all figured out, so they have to beat us into compliance so that we may be of usefulness against the elites!

 

[kahless]

Seriously, who are you and what's your angle?

In 2015/16 you (along with Enhanced Deficit) bought Trump's BS like he was the Messiah. You engaged in very highly emotionally charged arguments in defense of him against many respected members on the forum.

After the 2016 election, you savagely attacked Gunny Freedom for his prior attacks against Trump.

]His attacks were equalling as emotional as your defenses. The past was the past. You should have let it go, but wouldn't. You did everything you could to derail Gunny's political career. As for Gunny, he is one of the most sincere defenders of liberty on this forum. I have occasionally disagreed with him, but I have never doubted his sincerity.

Now, long after you were duped in your belief that Trump was the 2nd coming or whatever, you are claiming that people who think that the Orange Man wasn't that bad and believe that some questions about the last election haven't been answered properly are being duped.

I can't speak for AF, Phil, and others, but they seem consistent to me. They doubted Trump's claims at the start. They were pleasantly surprised by somethings he did and acknowledge that. They question some of the voting irregularities. That is consistent. You, on the other hand, are all over the spectrum.

Here are the facts.

1. I doubted Trump's claims at the start. I was pleasantly surprised by somethings he listed on his platform for example the Trump-Sessions immigration plan of 2015 for which I was relentless savagely attacked for saying so. This is consistent.

2. I questioned some of the voting irregularities but started to change my opinion about Trump winning starting slowly after January as we received more information. Inconsistent? Not really, changed my opinion as more information released, cases lost, audits lost and reviewing a mountain of fake reports.

2015 and the period you are talking about.

3. I was trolled and I trolled back. The period you are referring to trolling attacks directed at me were vicious, in PM, Rep and in forum. The constant insults directed to me you chose to ignore since your are blind to it since it runs counter to your preconceived beliefs about certain people here. Even when Gunny was insulting me I did not insult him back since I knew he gets a free pass because who he is and I would get banned.

4. I met several members separately in person before the flame war started including GunnyFreedom at his home. Everyone knew my history from those meetings and knew that I was not a Trump supporter, that I was supporting Rand.

5. "You should have let it go, but wouldn't. You did everything you could to derail Gunny's political career. . This is the biggest load of crap I have ever read in this forum. You must be trolling. He would pop in on the forum and tell me I was going to hell for supporting Trump. He was trolling since he knew I was not supporting him. This was all pretty amusing and I suspect for Gunny to. The posts got deleted by mods. His career was not effected by it.

6. he is one of the most sincere defenders of liberty on this forum. Not mine apparently.

7. Some forum members that attacked me in forum received payment by the elites that I had whistle blew against to meet me in person under false pretenses to physically attack me. One lied about selling acreage in TN and when I got there I was attacked by this person and the hired help of the elites I whistle blew against. The property story was totally bogus. This person was permanently banned from the forum for this incident.

Three other RPF members I met were contacted prior to my arrival meeting them by the same people working for the people I whistle blew against. I was told by both sides they received payment to harass me and to start a physical altercation. This has been a recurring problem for the last 20 years with meeting anyone for that matter and not specifically related to just this forum. All due to retribution for whistle blowing.

As usual they duped people with fake information that anyone could see right through if they were not blinded by cash payments. I have not been accused of anything and have no criminal record. But the people harassing me manufacture fake records and from when I was kidnapped, held against my will, tortured and blackmailed for whistle blowing. There were also corrupt cops that were on payroll and out of jurisdiction. Obvious stalking but people do not seem to get since they are blinded by the badge or again blind to cash payments.

So bottom line there was more than meets the eye going on with the attacks against me in this forum back then. Like you said, the past is in the past and as a Christian I put it behind me.

 

[Anti Federalist]

7. Some forum members that attacked me in forum received payment by the elites that I had whistle blew against to meet me in person under false pretenses to physically attack me. One lied about selling acreage in TN and when I got there I was attacked by this person and the hired help of the elites I whistle blew against. The property story was totally bogus. This person was permanently banned from the forum for this incident.

Three other RPF members I met were contacted prior to my arrival meeting them by the same people working for the people I whistle blew against. I was told by both sides they received payment to harass me and to start a physical altercation. This has been a recurring problem for the last 20 years with meeting anyone for that matter and not specifically related to just this forum. All due to retribution for whistle blowing.

Who were these people?

 

[GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged]

I am not sure about your experience but the few people I know that brought his Pillows found them to be of very poor quality compared to that high price point.

I sleep on my stomach. I no longer use a pillow for most of the night. When I do lie on my side I use My Pillow. No longer a big fan of pillows but if I need one, I use My Pillow. Wife wanted a mattress topper she bought a "My Pillow Topper." It was reasonably priced when compared to any other topper and I have no issue with it. A couple months ago my wife purchased sheets from My Pillow. I attest they are the best sheets I have ever owned! Honest fair review. Fact is she likes them so much she purchased 3 more sets on sale. One to give to each of our kids and one to keep for us. Quality sheets are not inexpensive and when you compare My Pillow sheets on sale with any other decent set of sheets they are not expensive. I/we didn't purchase these products to support Mike Lindell. We bought them because the aforementioned items are at one point in time needing replaced. At some point in this thread somebody asked why inject Lindell when he has nothing to do with this audit. What is wrong with a person putting their money where their belief is? Do you think My Pillow is selling more product and or doing better financially for backing Trump? Do you think being POTUS has enhanced Trumps bottom line or that of his children? It appears to me that there is a huge disinformation campaign going on and anyone not privy to actual facts is the recipient of the deceit. Do you think votes are tabulated and reported honestly?

 

[TheCount]

Well, the truth is it was a bullshit post to begin with. Posted slightly before the Mockingbird Media, including Drudge, spewed out the misinformation, regurgitating the same headline, without any context. If there were actual fact-checkers there would be a warning on this post that reads.

Fact-Oh-Meter: This post does not provide context. Therefore it is metered as...bullshit.

What misinformation?

 

[TheCount]

There are certain posters that I miss seeing around, and Gunny is one of them. It is disheartening to hear all that transpired.

Gunny was vocally anti-Trump on the forums and got dogpiled on as a result.

 

[acptulsa]

What misinformation?

Well, the headline is misleading because "the election" is prominent, while in Maricopa, a county in a state with only eleven electoral votes, is not. Fraud could yet be discovered elsewhere, and that elsewhere could actually involve enough electoral votes to make a difference.

That, and the report does not say what the AP says it says. Instead, it says, "Based on the factual findings, the election should not be certified, and the reported results are not reliable."

Gunny was vocally anti-Trump on the forums and got dogpiled on as a result.

Dogpiled upon for being absolutely right.

Starts at 21 minutes 10 seconds:

 

[kahless]

Gunny was vocally anti-Trump on the forums and got dogpiled on as a result.

He got dogpiled upon since he like others began attacking people personally and saying people were going to hell for supporting Trump.

Dogpiled upon for being absolutely right.

He was right in his opinion of Trump and so were the both of you. But you can't talk to people like that and expect not to get piled upon back. Especially when many here were simply making valid observations about the merits of Trump's policies. It became less about Trump and more about people trolling and attacking one another for payback.

I sleep on my stomach. I no longer use a pillow for most of the night. When I do lie on my side I use My Pillow. No longer a big fan of pillows but if I need one, I use My Pillow. Wife wanted a mattress topper she bought a "My Pillow Topper." It was reasonably priced when compared to any other topper and I have no issue with it. A couple months ago my wife purchased sheets from My Pillow. I attest they are the best sheets I have ever owned! Honest fair review. Fact is she likes them so much she purchased 3 more sets on sale. One to give to each of our kids and one to keep for us. Quality sheets are not inexpensive and when you compare My Pillow sheets on sale with any other decent set of sheets they are not expensive. I/we didn't purchase these products to support Mike Lindell. We bought them because the aforementioned items are at one point in time needing replaced. At some point in this thread somebody asked why inject Lindell when he has nothing to do with this audit. What is wrong with a person putting their money where their belief is? Do you think My Pillow is selling more product and or doing better financially for backing Trump? Do you think being POTUS has enhanced Trumps bottom line or that of his children? It appears to me that there is a huge disinformation campaign going on and anyone not privy to actual facts is the recipient of the deceit. Do you think votes are tabulated and reported honestly?

LOL. Although true what I wrote just to be clear I was joking posting that response to [MENTION=10850]phill4paul[/MENTION] 's complaint that we were talking about pillows by talking about pillows.

As far as Trump I do think it has enhanced Trump's bottom line, his legacy and that of his family for generations to come.

The votes have never been tabulated and reported honestly. From your response I think you are buying into a false narrative being presented for your team.

 

[TheCount]

Well, the headline is misleading because "the election" is prominent, while in Maricopa, a county in a state with only eleven electoral votes, is not. Fraud could yet be discovered elsewhere, and that elsewhere could actually involve enough electoral votes to make a difference.

It's a local newspaper.

That, and the report does not say what the AP says it says. Instead, it says, "Based on the factual findings, the election should not be certified, and the reported results are not reliable."

The audit reached the findings that it was paid to reach. The fact that it reached those conclusions, while finding none of the problems that they were originally looking for, should not surprise anyone.

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

No, not gangsta sized, just very intentionally placed to immediately advertise how pious he is. Or, given the circus of nonsense out of him ever since the election, how pious he wants people to think he is. I'm pretty sure Christ would frown on grifting people's money through falsehoods. Such things are much more in line with the Catholic Church's MO than anything Christ would advocate.

I don't know how you can tell anything like that from a chain. Grifting is not unique to any religion, place, or time.