Hand count in audit affirms Biden beat Trump

[Snowball]

You're suggesting that the Establishment/Deep State wanted Trump over Clinton? I'm not buying that, not for a second. The same cabal of entities that attempted to destroy him just months after he was elected (and this is ignoring the fact that they sought to destroy him throughout the campaign) briefly sought to seat him in the presidency? I mean, anything is possible, but Occam's Razor suggests that they didn't think he was going to win (and looking at his poll numbers and popular consensus confirms this) and they could just ride out this insurgency without problem. But it turned out that he *did* win, and thus 2020 was clearly an op to make sure that blunder didn't happen again.

Nobody gets to sit behind that desk unless it has been fore-ordained. Trump was a 1 in a million shot, and I'm not AT ALL suggesting that he was a net positive to liberty. But he got there, and they didn't like it, and that's as clear as day. Look at how all of the people around him reacted.

The only reason they didn't kill him was because they figured they could scam him out of office in 2020... and they did.

They are not always a unified group that agrees on everything. I believe there were competing camps of the elites on each side, and that in some cases, Secretaries of State manipulate elections. Sometimes, both candidates are acceptable. (most often, actually). In other words, the disunity of the shadow elites on the matter contributed to the "allowing" of a Trump victory. Hillary is still very active and could be a contender in 2024. Any news search shows this.

A rematch with a Hillary beating Trump in 2024 would probably be one of the biggest inside jokes they ever played on us.

 

[ClaytonB]

How many pillows do I need to buy to find out whether any of those ballots are actually fraudulent?

As far as I'm concerned, it's axiomatic that the election was stolen and China was involved -- and I'm not even a Trumper (I don't have TDS, either, though).

That said, I can't take the Lindell stuff seriously. It feels like one of those situations where the disciple believes more than the master, so the master just gives him the baton and says, "if you make it to the other side of the wall, send for me."

 

[DamianTV]

I call bullshit.

Just posted this:

AZ Forensic Audit Results Show SYSTEMIC Fraud - Prepare for CRISIS THEATER Distractions
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...Fraud-Prepare-for-CRISIS-THEATER-Distractions

...

Tell me another one

 

[TheTexan]

I am for voting integrity but Trump and crew were exposed earlier on their plan to claim it was fraudulent if they lost. Everything that Trump and is surrogates have done since before the election is and was part of the great con job. It should be obvious to everyone by now that election fraud claims were just another scam. There is election fraud each cycle, including the last but not enough to merit over turning the election.

If Covid did not happen there was a better chance of Trump winning but it would have been close if he did win. You have to remember in 2016, the under 40 overwhelming voted for Hillary and now these people were 4 years older and you had more boomers were dying off.

I think Trump supporters that are isolated in their own bubble do not realize the damage the lock downs had on peoples lives and how desperate they were. They were not going to vote for the man that was bragging that Wall Street and the economy is doing great because of him while they were suffering. This is not some love for Biden people had. Micky Mouse could have ran against Trump and they would a have voted for Micky out of desperation or stayed home.

At least 1 big difference in this election is that one side went through the hassle of documenting the fraud. There are heaping mounds of evidence and testimonies that election laws were broken on a massive scale.

It's beyond dispute at this point that the TCF Center in Detroit was breaking basically every challenger law in the book. From the floor staff to the managers to the people at the top, every layer of management is documented as having broken numerous ballot counting laws.

Every case on that was dismissed, essentially on the basis that the 100+ testimonies were all lies. (If you agree it's all lies then ur as leftist brainwashed as thecount)

This argument that "fraud happens every cycle" is a lame bs.



We will never know what the actual numbers were and they don't matter. If this was any other sport, Biden would have been disqualified from just the level of cheating.

 

[Cleaner44]

Live presentation:

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

https://www.azcentral.com/story/new...rt-confirms-biden-beat-trump-2020/5835521001/


The differences between the audit and original count:
+99 Biden votes
-269 Trump votes

LOL. Says the Biden voter who is vehemently opposed to Ron Paul.

 

[kahless]

At least 1 big difference in this election is that one side went through the hassle of documenting the fraud. There are heaping mounds of evidence and testimonies that election laws were broken on a massive scale.

It's beyond dispute at this point that the TCF Center in Detroit was breaking basically every challenger law in the book. From the floor staff to the managers to the people at the top, every layer of management is documented as having broken numerous ballot counting laws.

Every case on that was dismissed, essentially on the basis that the 100+ testimonies were all lies. (If you agree it's all lies then ur as leftist brainwashed as thecount)

This argument that "fraud happens every cycle" is a lame bs.

We will never know what the actual numbers were and they don't matter. If this was any other sport, Biden would have been disqualified from just the level of cheating.

It is the truth that it does happen every cycle and from both sides. I looked at many of these so called testimonies from Lindell's spreadsheet and the other fake election fraud website which looks like the real deal until you dig deeper to find it was hundreds of fake random people on Twitter claiming voter fraud. That is not evidence.

Voter fraud in such a massive scale that caused Trump to lose is about as accurate as the fake news headline floated here that "80% of Covid Deaths are Vaccinated". Some people are willingly allowing themselves to be gullible as not to shatter their illusion of honesty about the people they think represent the truth and their political views.

 

[devil21]

I really haven't dug into this because as far as I'm concerned, in the grand scheme of things, it really doesn't f**king matter. But if one watches the video Greenwald produced laying out exactly how the CIA, the legacy media, "big tech", and the DNC colluded to shelter Biden's campaign, and one doesn't come away understanding full-well that EVERYTHING was on the table to secure his election, I think those people are living in a fantasy land, and I want a ticket.

Do you have a link for that video? Sounds informative.

In my view - and I know I have friends here who disagree with me - for as wealthy and connected as Trump was, he was not an insider, he had not paid his dues, and he could NOT be entrusted with the presidency. He needed to be defeated at all costs, as far as the Deep State was concerned. Had he somehow managed to win against all odds, I believe they would have just killed him. And I think that the only reason they didn't during his term was because, as it is said in mafia circles, "blood is very expensive", and causes people to start asking a lot of questions that certain people do not want to answer.

My thought is that it was known that fraud, along with what Greenwald's video probably reveals, would be implemented to ensure Biden's installation. Joe and Jill have been deeply tied into the WEF Great Reset Davos meetings. Trump attended also, of course, but Joe was selected intentionally for this point in the agenda. Trump and his camp knew they would be engineered out of the Presidency (he even started the fraud narrative with a tweet in the middle of the night on election night) but had no intention to fight it in any meaningful way, but did see it as yet another grifting opportunity upon his gullible MAGA base. They dutifully fell in line and handed over more money.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Not really proving anything, now that I look at this a little more.

Recounting fraudulent ballots isn't an "audit".

 

[phill4paul]

How many pillows do I need to buy to find out whether any of those ballots are actually fraudulent?

Thank you for your posting of Mockingbird media. I might had missed it if it weren't parroted on NOR, Fox, MSNBC, CNN and all the other squawkers.

You really fulfill an important role on RPF for those that are not exposed to propaganda.

 

[nobody's_hero]

 

[phill4paul]

Not really proving anything, now that I look at this a little more.

Recounting fraudulent ballots isn't an "audit".

That's not the whole of the audit. It's what Mockingbird media got out ahead of the full report. "BIDEN won hands down!"

 

[nobody's_hero]

Thank you for your posting of Mockingbird media. I might had missed it if it weren't parroted on NOR, Fox, MSNBC, CNN and all the other squawkers.

You really fulfill an important role on RPF for those that are not exposed to propaganda.

He likes to point out that people on the right are making money off of claims of voter fraud but I guess he won't ever say anything about how Hunter Biden can smear diarrhea on a tissue, call it art, and sell it for political favors. I'd wager the people who committed/condone the fraud and are now in power are making a hell of a lot more money than Mike the pillow guy is by pointing out the fraud.

 

[nobody's_hero]

Not really proving anything, now that I look at this a little more.

Recounting fraudulent ballots isn't an "audit".

It was much more in depth than that. Some of the forensics behind it are actually pretty damn cool.

 

[kahless]

They are not always a unified group that agrees on everything. I believe there were competing camps of the elites on each side, and that in some cases, Secretaries of State manipulate elections. Sometimes, both candidates are acceptable. (most often, actually). In other words, the disunity of the shadow elites on the matter contributed to the "allowing" of a Trump victory. Hillary is still very active and could be a contender in 2024. Any news search shows this.

A rematch with a Hillary beating Trump in 2024 would probably be one of the biggest inside jokes they ever played on us.

That would not surprise me. The Trump and Clinton families and for that matter the elite families are closer than what is publicly portrayed. That kind of truth will never be known to average folks since the news media is all on the same side as the elites. There is no independent news media that is not connected to the club that would reveal that kind of truth. We are from all over the country in this forum but have common knowledge from visiting the same news sources owned and operated by the elites. The familiarity we have with these same news sources would not have happened without their help and that is intentional.

These public differences and public infighting are somewhat fake. If anyone outside the club exposes or crosses any one of them they are a unified front. For example if elite person X is presented to the public as at odds with elite person Y but you outside of the club exposed either one of them then X and Y would be a unified front to destroy the non-club member. The so called victims of X and Y within the club would be against you since you are not part of the club even though publicly they are supposed to be against X and Y.

...Trump and his camp knew they would be engineered out of the Presidency (he even started the fraud narrative with a tweet in the middle of the night on election night) but had no intention to fight it in any meaningful way, but did see it as yet another grifting opportunity upon his gullible MAGA base. They dutifully fell in line and handed over more money.

It is sickening how they are taking advantage of poor gullible people in hard times. What was worse is his camp was going so far to trick people into recurring donations that if they did not click on the recurring radio box it would mean they were with Nancy Pelosi. Some poor people had their bank accounts drained and one died of cancer waiting to get her money back. A Billionaire's camp using those kind of tactics to fund raise, pretty sick stuff. Prior to 2016 these same people probably would have seen right through it. All it took was a continual con-job by him, his surrogates and the news media to get them to see him as a saint rather than for who he is.

 

[phill4paul]

The fuck are you talking about?

There are only two people in this thread who could be remotely described as "trumpkins"...me and phill.

Everybody else that has posted is opposed to him.

I would think everybody would be in favor of voting integrity as well, but I can understand the logic of the anarchist argument against that.

It serves the purpose of de-legitimatizing any voter effort.

And are we really "trumpkins?" I didn't vote for him in the first election. I did in the second. Only because he actually did a good fucking job comparatively to every other president in my life time including the wrecking ball of this new one. But, time and again on this forum those that hate Trump continue to hate on him. And for some reason or another there is not really a hell of an amount about the Biden administration or the Progressive agenda that fails at every turn. But, keeps on rolling.

 

[phill4paul]

He likes to point out that people on the right are making money off of claims of voter fraud but I guess he won't ever say anything about how Hunter Biden can smear diarrhea on a tissue, call it art, and sell it for political favors. I'd wager the people who committed/condone the fraud and are now in power are making a hell of a lot more money than Mike the pillow guy is by pointing out the fraud.

I wish we could go back to negative reps reflecting ones, well,... reputation.

 

[Cleaner44]

Highlights:
23344 votes from people that moved away
5295 voting in more than one county
Clear intentional overwriting of the security logs
2/2/2021 the voting system was purged through the internet
shared password
shared user accounts
remote access

 

[kahless]

He likes to point out that people on the right are making money off of claims of voter fraud but I guess he won't ever say anything about how Hunter Biden can smear diarrhea on a tissue, call it art, and sell it for political favors. I'd wager the people who committed/condone the fraud and are now in power are making a hell of a lot more money than Mike the pillow guy is by pointing out the fraud.

Those that committed on the ground, likely over zealous Biden supporters that got very little if anything compared to what that con-artist Pillow Man raked in.

 

[phill4paul]

Those that committed on the ground, likely over zealous Biden supporters that got very little if anything compared to what that con-artist Pillow Man raked in.

Why do you keep fixating on Mr. Pillow? Do I need to buy you one so you can dry hump it?