Haiti earthquake may reveal major oil and gas reserves.

Chieppa1 said:
Well that's cleared up...
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So you got to the interviews with the son of the creator of HAARP technology?

You understand that it can in fact be used to create earthquakes and direct weather remotely?
 
dannno said:
So you got to the interviews with the son of the creator of HAARP technology?

You understand that it can in fact be used to create earthquakes and direct weather remotely?
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I also know nature does it too. Christ.

You know. I got a good idea. When we get our Liberty Candidate running for President, and he's finally into the debates, kicking ass and all that. Let's hope they don't ask something stupid like:

"Do you believe the earthquake in Haiti that has begun our occupation there was created by a machine so the US could control Haiti for its oil?"

Why can we just focus on what we can kind of prove?
 
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Neocons need to stop trusting the government's intentions, and I'm not talking about HAARP, but the military operation being conducted. How many times have we been through this before, yet you continue to fall for the lies. There is no excuse after the same old lie being given about 200 times. The military does not belong any sovereign country, just as China should not send their troops during the next Katrina. This is horrible precedent and WE will be seeing "humanitarian" troops here during our next crisis if we don't snap out of this stupor ASAP.
 
Back to the original topic- the possible oil in Haiti. Let's consider that pool of oil it talks about
The Dominican Republic shares the island of Hispaniola with Haiti. It may have 3 million barrels of oil in a shallow offshore formation that’s probably also shared by Haiti, Pierce said.
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would be enough oil to last the US for ... (are you ready?)....about three and a half hours. We consume almost 21 million a day. Not hardly worth getting excited about. Rescue and rebuilding will use more than that up probably. It might help them domestically a bit but would not be enough to try to export. And certainly not worth the damage which occured. Assuming that you could get it all up and get $70 a barrel for it you are looking at about $200 million. But you would also have to pay for the drilling and transportation systems to get the oil up and out of the country (i assume processing and refining would be done someplace else like here otherwise you have to build a refinery as well... )- they have no infrastructure for that. No- not enough oil to get excited about.
 
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Chieppa1 said:
I also know nature does it too. Christ.

You know. I got a good idea. When we get our Liberty Candidate running for President, and he's finally into the debates, kicking ass and all that. Let's hope they don't ask something stupid like:

"Do you believe the earthquake in Haiti that has begun our occupation there was created by a machine so the US could control Haiti for its oil?"

Why can we just focus on what we can kind of prove?
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Well we can prove that Haiti most likely has oil.

We can prove that former defense secretaries believe it's possible for the military to create earthquakes.

Tying these two facts together is what can't readily be proven. But dannno didn't do that. He responded to a point someone else made about H.A.A.R.P. and "tin foil hat wearing".

Me personally? I still lean to the "natural earthquake" but I try to always keep an open mind. And as for the future presidential candidate I hope he has the good sense to just say "While there are no stupid questions, I can't believe you are actually asking me about what some random anonymous supporter had to say on an internet forum".
 
Zippyjuan said:
Back to the original topic- the possible oil in Haiti. Let's consider that pool of oil it talks about

would be enough oil to last the US for ... (are you ready?)....about three and a half hours. We consume almost 21 million a day. Not hardly worth getting excited about. Rescue and rebuilding will use more than that up probably. It might help them domestically a bit but would not be enough to try to export. And certainly not worth the damage which occured. Assuming that you could get it all up and get $70 a barrel for it you are looking at about $200 million. But you would also have to pay for the drilling and transportation systems to get the oil up and out of the country (i assume processing and refining would be done someplace else like here otherwise you have to build a refinery as well... )- they have no infrastructure for that. No- not enough oil to get excited about.
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But if you read a little bit further....

The Greater Antilles, which includes Cuba, Haiti, the Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico and their offshore waters, probably hold at least 142 million barrels of oil and 159 billion cubic feet of gas, according to a 2000 report by the U.S. Geological Survey. Undiscovered amounts may be as high as 941 million barrels of oil and 1.2 trillion cubic feet of gas, according to the report.

Right now the only foothold we have in that region is Puerto Rico. Getting another foothold would help in securing the entire (possible) 941 billion.
 
Thank you for pointing that out. 941 million barrels would last us a month and a half.

Which former defense secretaries said we could cause earthquakes and how did they say we could do it? Why don't we use it in Iran to halt their nuclear program? We aren't going to invade them so it would be about the only way we could stop them.

Haiti is poor and its government corrupt enough that oil companies could have just bribed their way in.
 
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This is where Ron Paul should draft his own resolution of condolences to Haiti where the US promises not to forcibly take anything from Haiti and not to support any private firms or the World Bank in any such endeavor.
 
Zippyjuan said:
Thank you for pointing that out. 941 million barrels would last us a month and a half.
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And the 1.2 trillion in natural gas?

Which former defense secretaries said we could cause earthquakes and how did they say we could do it? Why don't we use it in Iran to halt their nuclear program? We aren't going to invade them so it would be about the only way we could stop them.
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1) William Cohen said it.
2) He didn't say how.
3) Why does that matter?
4) An earthquake ain't exactly a "precision weapon".

Haiti is poor and its government corrupt enough that oil companies could have just bribed their way in.
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1) Afghanistan is poor and the Taliban was corrupt. Unocal couldn't bribe their way in.
2) I don't know if you missed it or not, but I already said I'm leaning toward natural earthquake. That doesn't change the fact that there are significant oil and gas resources in Haiti.
 
Amazing that people can be so blind due to their hatred of government that they fail to recognize that businesses such as oil and gas companies will raise the standard of living for Haitians. Our pets here have better food and shelter so how could this possible be a bad thing for them.

btw - to even entertain that we created the earthquake leads me to believe you guys need to get outside, stay off the internet and stop watching the Sci-Fi channel for a week. :p
 
How is a foreign company going in and seizing a nations natural resources going to help the people there? It will just continue the circle of dependence for the poor Haitians.

The Haitian government is owned by the U.S. I do not think that the earthquake was "created".
 
kahless said:
Amazing that people can be so blind due to their hatred of government that they fail to recognize that businesses such as oil and gas companies will raise the standard of living for Haitians. Our pets here have better food and shelter so how could this possible be a bad thing for them.
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They are going to pay outside contractors exorbitant funds which the Haitians cannot afford and put them further into debt. They are going to make things even worse there. At least they had places to live before, now they won't because it will be too damn expensive.

Did you read Cinderella's thread? There are plenty of business interests willing to capitalize off this and put the nation into debt. Then they trade the debt for resources. Do you think they are using market rates? Do you think this has any semblence to the free market? If you do, you are blind. They are robbing the Haitians blind is precisely what they are doing and what they have done for a long long time. This is a pattern that is extremely obvious from very little study.


kahless said:
btw - to even entertain that we created the earthquake leads me to believe you guys need to get outside, stay off the internet and stop watching the Sci-Fi channel for a week. :p
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Try TruTv, did you watch the episode I linked to above? We have the power to create earthquakes, Ventura suggested that the earthquake in the South Pacific that caused the tsunamis was a test of the HAARP system which is capable.

By the way, do you have cable tv? I don't. Maybe watching the sci-fi channel is what helps to convince you that this stuff is all fiction?
 
Could this have been an attempted oil and NG grab from Venezuela's fields? Seems like a stretch, but the neighborhood is right...

http://geology.com/usgs/venezuela-heavy-oil/venezuela-oil-map-lg.jpg

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http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/world-top-ten-oil-reserves-countries-map.html

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Obama's War for Oil in Colombia

This past summer, President Obama announced that he had signed an agreement with Colombia to grant the U.S. military access to 7 military bases in Colombia. He proposed 10-year lease will give the US access to at least seven Colombian bases – three air force, two naval and two army – stretching from the Pacific to the Caribbean.” And, these bases would accommodate up to 800 military and 600 civilian contractors of the United States.

The human rights nightmare in Colombia, fueled by billions of dollars of U.S. military assistance, includes the forced internal displacement of nearly 4 million civilians – the second largest internally displaced population in the world (Sudan holding the number one position); the extraordinary killing of over 2700 union members since 1986 (by far the greatest number in the world), with 35 being killed in 2009 alone; and the extrajudicial killing of around 2,000 civilians by the Colombian military since President Uribe took office in 2002.
As for the extra-judicial killings by the Colombian military, these were carried out as part of the “false positive” scandal – a controversy involving the military murdering civilians and then dressing them up to look like guerillas in order to increase their body count numbers, thereby guaranteeing further U.S. aid. That scandal deepened earlier this month when 31 Colombian soldiers awaiting trial for their role in the killings were released from prison because of the Colombian government’s failure to indict them in a timely fashion.
While the U.S. has claimed for years that it is fighting a drug war in Colombia, though having to sheepishly admit year after year that its ostensible efforts have not yielded any decrease whatsoever in the amount of coca grown in Colombia or cocaine exported to the U.S., the real reason for the war has always been the control of Colombia’s rich oil resources. Indeed, at a Congressional hearing in 2000, entitled “Drugs and Social Policy in Colombia” – a hearing to debate the relative merits of Clinton’s new Plan Colombia, pursuant to which the U.S. has sent billions of dollars of military assistance to Colombia – one of the key witnesses invited to testify in support of this policy was none other than Lawrence Meriage, the Vice-President of Occidental Petroleum. Not surprisingly, Mr. Meriage had nothing to say about drugs or social policy in Colombia, but a lot to say about the need for military assistance to protect his oil pipelines.

http://www.blacklistednews.com/news-7198-0-25-25--.html
 
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