Group Project: Let's Rank The Presidents and Summarize Their Presidencies

[Origanalist]

P.S. 6,000th post

Didn't take too long, Me either at the rate I'm going.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

Or causing hundreds of thousands of violent deaths, untold amounts of maimed, destroying whole cities and burning farms, etc. etc.

Just scratching the surface, sadly.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

Didn't take too long, Me either at the rate I'm going.

Yeah my rate is about 25 a day. But sometimes I post 50-100 in a day.

 

[TheTexan]

Just scratching the surface, sadly.

Aside from the apologists, I think we can all safely agree that Lincoln is the worst.

We should move on to second worst IMO. Seems to be a toss up between Wilson & FDR?

 

[Origanalist]

Yeah my rate is about 25 a day. But sometimes I post 50-100 in a day.

You definitely have me beat. But I was pretty surprised I got to 500 as fast as I did.

 

[Origanalist]

Aside from the apologists, I think we can all safely agree that Lincoln is the worst.

We should move on to second worst IMO. Seems to be a toss up between Wilson & FDR?

Yep, the real contest is definitely for second.

 

[Origanalist]

I don't think I can come up with a "best" group.

 

[Origanalist]

The truth is that I need to look into Wilson more.

 

[The Gold Standard]

Lincoln did nothing to end slavery, only expanded it. He didn't free the northern slaves, and he had no authority to free southern slaves. He did enslave northern whites and blacks and ordered them to slaughter their fellow Americans from southern states. He also enslaved the north by forcing them to fund the growing federal government with a portion of their income.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

The truth is that I need to look into Wilson more.

Please do. I need alot more info on him.

I'm currently researching FDR so if anyone can help with info on him I'd appreciate it.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

Lincoln is worst. I'm not sure if Wilson can top FDR for 2nd, but we shall see.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

Cliff notes on what I wrote down for FDR. Feel free to add to it.

-Largely responsible for the gigantic government we have today

-gold seizure

-paid farmers not to grow crops

-established fascism in America

-social security

-japanese internment

 

[Galileo Galilei]

And Lincoln wasn't against slavery.

P.S. 6,000th post

Lincoln was against slavery, but pretended to support it because that is what the voters wanted. I find it amazing that even people here believe what double talking politicians say, not what they do.

 

[Galileo Galilei]

Aside from the apologists, I think we can all safely agree that Lincoln is the worst.

We should move on to second worst IMO. Seems to be a toss up between Wilson & FDR?

You sound like a Wilson apologist. Wilson was easily the worst president. No one else is even close.

The Wilson legacy:

* sinking of Lusitania (orchestrated event)

* The bogus Zimmerman Telegram (another orchestrated event)

* creation of ADL in 1913

* "lone nut" near assassination against Teddy Roosevelt in October 1912, throwing the election to Wilson

* income tax

* Espionage Act act of 1917, followed by arbitrary arrests of newspaper publishers

* Federal Reserve

* WWI

* Harrison Act of 1914 (war on drugs)

* allowing women to vote without making congressional districts smaller to balance increased number of voters

* League of Nations

* mass murder of over 70 labor unionists in Michigan (Italian Hall fire of 1913, orchestrated event)

* direct election of Senators (worst event on this list)

* alcohol prohibition

* resurgent racism (Wilson set an example for the nation by kicking all the blacks out of the federal government)

* Wilson set a precedent by lying about his health to the people; he should have resigned, his last two years in office he could not function; basically, his unelected wife took over, rather than the Vice President as the Founders intended

* In 1913, Charles Beard, cheered by Wilson, published the most horrific "scholarly" attack upon the Founding Fathers, a bogus book called 'An Economic Interpretation of the Constitution'

* In 1915, Beard published another horrible attack upon Thomas Jefferson

* Wilson was responsible for the massive spread of influenza, he intentionally moved sick soldiers all over the world and then failed to tell local leaders who could have taken some precautions; this alone led to the deaths of 50 million people, making Wilson the greatest mass murdered in human history, beating out Lincoln, Hitler, Stalin, and Mao combined

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[John F Kennedy III]

You sound like a Wilson apologist. Wilson was easily the worst president. No one else is even close.

The Wilson legacy:

* sinking of Lusitania (orchestrated event)

* The bogus Zimmerman Telegram (another orchestrated event)

* creation of ADL in 1913

* "lone nut" near assassination against Teddy Roosevelt in October 1912, throwing the election to Wilson

* income tax

* Espionage Act act of 1917, followed by arbitrary arrests of newspaper publishers

* Federal Reserve

* WWI

* Harrison Act of 1914 (war on drugs)

* allowing women to vote without making congressional districts smaller to balance increased number of voters

* League of Nations

* mass murder of over 70 labor unionists in Michigan (Italian Hall fire of 1913, orchestrated event)

* direct election of Senators (worst event on this list)

* alcohol prohibition

* resurgent racism (Wilson set an example for the nation by kicking all the blacks out of the federal government)

* Wilson set a precedent by lying about his health to the people; he should have resigned, his last two years in office he could not function; basically, his unelected wife took over, rather than the Vice President as the Founders intended

* In 1913, Charles Beard, cheered by Wilson, published the most horrific "scholarly" attack upon the Founding Fathers, a bogus book called 'An Economic Interpretation of the Constitution'

* In 1915, Beard published another horrible attack upon Thomas Jefferson

* Wilson was responsible for the massive spread of influenza, he intentionally moved sick soldiers all over the world and then failed to tell local leaders who could have taken some precautions; this alone led to the deaths of 50 million people, making Wilson the greatest mass murdered in human history, beating out Lincoln, Hitler, Stalin, and Mao combined

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I think those mentioned combined would equal more than 50 million.

Can you provide more info on how he caused this flu epidemic? And how he was responsible for WWI?

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Lincoln was against slavery, but pretended to support it because that is what the voters wanted. I find it amazing that even people here believe what double talking politicians say, not what they do.

Yet he married a woman from a major slaver family...hmmm... might want to be suspicious of that.

 

[Origanalist]

You sound like a Wilson apologist. Wilson was easily the worst president. No one else is even close.

The Wilson legacy:

* sinking of Lusitania (orchestrated event)

* The bogus Zimmerman Telegram (another orchestrated event)

* creation of ADL in 1913

* "lone nut" near assassination against Teddy Roosevelt in October 1912, throwing the election to Wilson

* income tax

* Espionage Act act of 1917, followed by arbitrary arrests of newspaper publishers

* Federal Reserve

* WWI

* Harrison Act of 1914 (war on drugs)

* allowing women to vote without making congressional districts smaller to balance increased number of voters

* League of Nations

* mass murder of over 70 labor unionists in Michigan (Italian Hall fire of 1913, orchestrated event)

* direct election of Senators (worst event on this list)

* alcohol prohibition

* resurgent racism (Wilson set an example for the nation by kicking all the blacks out of the federal government)

* Wilson set a precedent by lying about his health to the people; he should have resigned, his last two years in office he could not function; basically, his unelected wife took over, rather than the Vice President as the Founders intended

* In 1913, Charles Beard, cheered by Wilson, published the most horrific "scholarly" attack upon the Founding Fathers, a bogus book called 'An Economic Interpretation of the Constitution'

* In 1915, Beard published another horrible attack upon Thomas Jefferson

* Wilson was responsible for the massive spread of influenza, he intentionally moved sick soldiers all over the world and then failed to tell local leaders who could have taken some precautions; this alone led to the deaths of 50 million people, making Wilson the greatest mass murdered in human history, beating out Lincoln, Hitler, Stalin, and Mao combined

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I'm not going to argue with anything you say about Wilson except the last point. I need some verification on that. And most of what he did would not have been possible without Lincoln.

 

[Galileo Galilei]

I'm not going to argue with anything you say about Wilson except the last point. I need some verification on that. And most of what he did would not have been possible without Lincoln.

The Great Influenza: The Epic Story of the Deadliest Plague in History [Hardcover]
John M. Barry (Author)
http://www.amazon.com/The-Great-Influenza-Deadliest-History/dp/0670894737

 

[tttppp]

I think those mentioned combined would equal more than 50 million.

Can you provide more info on how he caused this flu epidemic? And how he was responsible for WWI?

Was there any point to being involved in WWI? Based on the bs reasons WWI started they teach us in school, there really seemed to be no point at all to entering in this war.

 

[Galileo Galilei]

I think those mentioned combined would equal more than 50 million.

Can you provide more info on how he caused this flu epidemic? And how he was responsible for WWI?

The numbers of deaths found here:

The pandemic lasted from January 1918 to December 1920,[3] spreading even to the Arctic and remote Pacific islands. Between 50 and 130 million died, making it one of the deadliest natural disasters in human history.[4][1][5][6][7] Even using the lower estimate of 50 million people, 3% of the world's population (which was 1.86 billion at the time[8]) died of the disease. Some 500 million, or 27%, were infected.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu_pandemic

Wilson's role explained in this book:

The Great Influenza: The Epic Story of the Deadliest Plague in History [Hardcover]
John M. Barry (Author)
http://www.amazon.com/The-Great-Influenza-Deadliest-History/dp/0670894737

With respect to WWI:

World War I (Zeitgeist) | FlipThePyramid.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4tWlVZ0ZXA