Gov. Mark Sanford on CNBS this morning sounds like the NEXT RON PAUL !!

[LibertyEagle]

Governor Rick Perry (scum bag neocon Texas governor) was on Hannity & Colmes last night, singing the praises of Sanford and Steele.

That is NOT a good omen for Sanford. In my opinion, for that to happen, he almost has to have sold out. I personally haven't shut the door yet, but I am extremely wary.

Honestly guys, I don't think we stand a chance of getting anyone good in as President. U.S. House, yes. State reps, yes. Local government, yes. If we take back some of our state and local governments, THEN we'll have a chance at the national level. If I am going to focus on anything at the federal level, it's going to be the U.S. House, because they control the purse strings.

 

[JoshLowry]

Governor Rick Perry (scum bag neocon Texas governor) was on Hannity & Colmes last night, singing the praises of Sanford and Steele.

That is NOT a good omen for Sanford. In my opinion, for that to happen, he almost has to have sold out. I personally haven't shut the door yet, but I am extremely wary.

Honestly guys, I don't think we stand a chance of getting anyone good in as President. U.S. House, yes. State reps, yes. Local government, yes.

Thanks for that info. I believe Sanford is the GOP's Trojan Horse.

BJ Lawson says the cure to globalism is localism. We may not have a fight in the presidential race this next go around.

 

[paulitics]

This movement will go nowhere if we shun every candidate. Everyone talks about Bilderberg or CFR or how the person didnt endorse Ron Paul in the primaries. NEWS FLASH, no current governor endorsed Ron Paul. NEWS FLASH, no one cares about Bilderberg besides nutty conspiracy theorists on this board who think they're trying to take over the world.

We will most likely never find another Ron Paul. Understand that. Sanford has the voting record. The man is principled. Gary Johnson is also principled but needs to be back in some form of office in order to be taken seriously as a presidential candidate. These men are fiscally conservative & support civil liberties. Right now those are 2 good credentials that we can all rally behind. People are not ready for a full-fledged libertarian candidate, at least they werent for Dr. Paul. Maybe it was Ron Pauls delivery, I mean he's not exactly the most charismatic fellow & comes off as quirky to a lot of people. Americans want someone who appears as a leader, not a smart guy. We want both so lets get ourselves a leader, who is also smart. Johnson & Sanford are two guys that fit the bill.

Get real people. Be a little more open-minded and accept slight differences in candidates or we will never get anyone. There will never be a Ron Paul, but there will be Ron Paul-like candidates.

Slight differences in candidates would be the difference between Ron paul, and Bob Barr. I'm not sure if there is only a slight difference between Mark Sanford and Ron Paul. With the exception of some economic issues, and Real ID, they may be worlds apart. What is his foreign policy stance? You say he suports civil liberties. Does he want to repeal the patriot act, military comissions act, and all of the horrendous legisaltion of the last 10 years?

Since you brought up that wacky conspiracy, Bilderberg, it is kind of is a big deal because it violates the principles of an open governement, and keeping high ranking U.S government figures meeting with private individuals behind closed doors. What makes it worse is that they meet with other countries private citizens and policy makers behind closed doors.

I guess I'm nutty because it unsettles me to know that Condoleeza Rice, Rumsfield Bernanke, Robert Gates are meeting with David Rockefeller, the Queen of England, and other world financiers and globalists who have no allegiance to the countries and disrespect national sovereignty. I have no problem with private citizens having their own meeting, but when they ALWAYS have to meet with those who affects my country in a profound way, I say "what the hell gives them the right?" Matter of fact, I am 90% sure it is illegal already for these common sense reasons. So you may not care about whacky conspiracy theories, but you should care about the law of the land, and at the very least the principles of the constitution and what our ancestors fought and died for.

 

[Mort]

I wouldn't be willing to call Mark Sanford the next Ron Paul until I heard his foreign policy stances.

 

[humanic]

Are you fucking kidding me?

The media is pushing this guy to run, that's your first warning.

He shilled for McCain and now he shills for Rick Perry.

Rick Perry is an enemy of freedom and property rights.

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54219

Fuck Mark Sanford. Honey, Honey, Poison is not acceptable.

He won't even allow medical marijuana, you are a slave in his eyes. He wants to control what you put in your body. He wants to control you.

He is not a freedom candidate and I won't support him.

Sanford will splinter this movement if you keep your eyes shut and try to stomach this wolf in sheep's clothing.

I didn't become active in politics so I could support someone who will represent the Constitution 90% of the time.

Voted NO on decreasing gun waiting period from 3 days to 1.
http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Mar...un_Control.htm

Voted YES on prohibiting needle exchange & medical marijuana in DC.
http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Mark_Sanford_Drugs.htm

Voted YES on banning gay adoptions in DC.
Voted NO on ending preferential treatment by race in college admissions.
http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Mar...vil_Rights.htm

Shilled for McCain and shilled for Rick Perry.

I'd love to hear his thoughts on the Federal Reserve, Foreign Aid, and the Iraq War. Strange that you can't find anything online about it.

The medical marijuana issue is a relatively small issue, but it defines him. He sees government as a tool to control the people. That's not a pro-freedom candidate.

Just like when Bush campaigned in 2000 on a non interventionist foreign policy, some of it may have sounded good, but he was not the whole package. If you settle for less then you're going to get fucked.

Don't swallow the pill. The media is even pushing him to run for crying out loud.

I believe Sanford is the GOP's Trojan Horse.

Josh wins this thread.

 

[humanic]

NEWS FLASH, no one cares about Bilderberg besides nutty conspiracy theorists on this board who think they're trying to take over the world.

Uh huh. Only a nut would care that many of the most politically and economically powerful globalists-- who in their own writings talk openly about undermining U.S. sovereignty and who dominate the western world's power centers, including the executive branch of the U.S. federal government for decades-- have been holding yearly private meetings without the knowledge of the vast majority of the public and in probable violation of U.S. law for over 50 years.

 

[Spirit of '76]

Out of curiosity, what exactly did Sanford do/say on behalf of Rick Perry?

 

[LibertyEagle]

Out of curiosity, what exactly did Sanford do/say on behalf of Rick Perry?

I haven't heard anything, but then again, I don't think Perry is going to be ushered out as a candidate for President this next time.

It seems pretty clear to me that the elite are pushing those who they want to control the party. To me, it's notable that Sanford seems to be one of those.

 

[Spirit of '76]

I haven't heard anything, but then again, I don't think Perry is going to be ushered out as a candidate for President this next time.

I'm just wondering, because the claim that he "shilled for Rick Perry" seems to have people up in arms. I'd just like to know what exactly he did or said before I allow the usual histrionics that characterize this forum to propel me to grab my torch and my pitchfork and set out for the guy's blood.

It seems pretty clear to me that the elite are pushing those who they want to control the party. To me, it's notable that Sanford seems to be one of those.

I'm seeing a lot more love for Pawlenty from the media than for Sanford, but you just may be right. Of course, the elite are going to pick their guy for the nomination no matter what we say or do. If it happens to be a guy who may not be perfect, but at least has a real, consistent record of fiscal conservatism and a good stance on states' rights and privacy issues, we'll at least be better off than with a rampantly authoritarian globalist.

I'm inclined to think that perhaps if the GOP really is pushing Sanford (and I think it's way too early to tell), it may be in no small part because at least some of the party elders are thinking that they lost this election because they deviated too far from the core principles. That, and he's a dynamic, good-looking young guy who can compete with someone like Obama in the camera's eye.

 

[BKom]

It's a little difficult to figure Sanford out. I think he just mentioned Perry in passing as one of the "prominent" governors at the convention.

What we'll need to figure out if whether he's the self-effacing fiscal conservative he seems to be, or is he a nanny stater who's fine with the drug war, the Iraq War and the Military Commissions Act.

Looks to need a lot of vetting. And if Gary Johnson is seriously interested in running, he'd better start getting out there on other issues and getting some boots on the ground doing fundraising and advance work.

This is the time to start building an organization and start repairing the internet search engines that only bring up anti-drug war stuff. I love that he's against the war on drugs. But he needs some serious diversification if he's to be a serious candidate.

 

[s35wf]

And out come the haters who call everyone who questions their politicians' actions' "Conspiracy Theorists" in order to not only divide, but to silence dissent and reasonable concerns. I have not figured out if this is your intention, but it is most certainly the result.

It is reasonable to be concerned that Mark Sanford, along with Rick Perry, attended the Bilderberg meeting this year.

It is reasonable to be concerned that Sarah Palin flys the Isreali flag in her office and speaks of the huge threat that Iran is. It is also a reasonable concern that Sarah Palin does not know that Africa is a continent. It is also a reasonable concern that Rick Perry, Bobby Jindal, and Mark Sanford are the new media darlings of the "Reformed" Republican Party.

Now V-rod, tell me again why the above points are nothing to be not only concerned about, but "non-issues" rather than pulling out your over-used and tired "Conspiracy Theory wack job" media whored talking point hammer- mmmmkay?

Yeah what he said ^^^

 

[Barney]

First they tried to sell us on Huckabee, the warmongering preacher who never saw a junket he didn't like. And that chipped away a small faction of hardcore religious zealots.

Then they did a bit better peddling Libertarian-Bizzaro Bob Barr, and managed to get the Libertarian Party to sell its soul for absolutely nothing in return.

And then they really did a job on us with a media campaign that must have cost in the TRILLIONS to pitch a charismatic EX-antiwar candidate who voted for every Iraq war appropriation since taking office in the Senate.

Now they're looking to take another bite with a hollowed out shell of Mark Sandford. Honestly, how many amongst those who rallied to Paul's message of freedom would have endorse John McCain?!

Anyone here who saw fit to endorse McCain,... Sandford's your man.

 

[BKom]

Did Sanford "endorse" McCain before he was the party's candidate? I thought he stayed away from endorsing anyone until the process was over.

And I can't blame any sitting politician for not endorsing Ron Paul. Ron never wanted the job and his awful campaign would have taken down anyone who got on the bandwagon that never left the station.

Look around the national campaign and I think you can see why no governor would attach himself to that. There were a couple of people in the campaign who were great. And then there was everyone else.

 

[StateofTrance]

"Mark Sanford" means neo-con in my dictionary.

 

[BKom]

"Mark Sanford" means neo-con in my dictionary.

Please enlighten me. I've never heard him talk about anything other than economic issues and budget issues. He is very good on those. In what way is he a neo-con.

I don't care what meetings he went to. What has he said or done that would lead you to believe that? I'd really like to know.

 

[revolutionary8]

Please enlighten me. I've never heard him talk about anything other than economic issues and budget issues. He is very good on those. In what way is he a neo-con.

I don't care what meetings he went to. What has he said or done that would lead you to believe that? I'd really like to know.

Besides the FACT that he attended the elitist Bilderberg meeting this year, and is a "friend" of RICK PERRY and he was invited to the meeting concerning the "reformation" of the GOP that Ron Paul was excluded from, there are these issues to be concerned about:



- Voted NO on withdrawing from the WTO.
- Voted YES on 'Fast Track' authority for trade agreements.
- Voted NO on maintaining right of habeas corpus in Death Penalty Appeals.
- Voted YES on making federal death penalty appeals harder.
- More prisons, more enforcement, effective death penalty (signed the Contract with America)
- Affirmative action in state contracts, but not colleges
- Voted NO on ending preferential treatment by race in college admissions
- Does not oppose the "War on Drugs"

I will NEVER support Sanford.

 

[BKom]

Ron told a lot of us how much he liked Sanford during the campaign. That would be one more strike against Sanford. Ron's people judgments are almost uniformly awful.

 

[pastortony]

If any of you bothered to listen to the interview he didn't "shill" for Perry but mentioned him along with a bunch of other names that are rising stars in the GOP. He didn't say he agreed with any of them on policy matters or that he supported any of them - he just mentioned their names. It's called being diplomatic.

 

[revolutionary8]

Ron told a lot of us how much he liked Sanford during the campaign. That would be one more strike against Sanford. Ron's people judgments are almost uniformly awful.

Wrong.
Sanford attended the Bilderberg meeting late in the year. Ron Paul is a "profit" of Economics, not a prophet of whacked out sociopaths.

BK,
I must have missed the part about RP being a cheerleader for MS. Could you please direct me to that POI?

 

[revolutionary8]

If any of you bothered to listen to the interview he didn't "shill" for Perry but mentioned him along with a bunch of other names that are rising stars in the GOP. He didn't say he agreed with any of them on policy matters or that he supported any of them - he just mentioned their names. It's called being diplomatic.

blah blah blah
And FUCK PERRY.
scoot along.