Gov. Mark Sanford on CNBS this morning sounds like the NEXT RON PAUL !!

[paulitics]

We don't even know where this guy stands on the patriot act, military comissions act, wiretapping, the end of posse commitatus, Iraq war, Iran war, Afghanastan war, federal reserve, torture, CIA secret prisons, Nato, WTO, Nafta, Nau, pre-emptive wars, on and on.


Here's what we do know. His rhetoric sounds good on economic policy. Well big deal. So does Palin, Newt Gingrich, Rush Limbaugh, Hannity, Fred Thompson, dozens of other neocons including G. W Bush when he was running.

Without cutting spending from the massive military industrial complex and the burgeoning police state at home, a conservative economic policy is not possible and is irrelevent. Why support a guy so soon, you know so little about. And the fact that the media is pimping him, and he supports McCain and Perry is pretty telling.

 

[revolutionary8]

Ah, the conspiracy theorists whackjobs show up again. Forum was pro Palin in 2007, then she is thrown under the bus, now Mark Sanford. I am willing to bet that some of you would of waited 3 months before going after BJ Lawson had he won.

And out come the haters who call everyone who questions their politicians' actions' "Conspiracy Theorists" in order to not only divide, but to silence dissent and reasonable concerns. I have not figured out if this is your intention, but it is most certainly the result.

It is reasonable to be concerned that Mark Sanford, along with Rick Perry, attended the Bilderberg meeting this year.

It is reasonable to be concerned that Sarah Palin flys the Isreali flag in her office and speaks of the huge threat that Iran is. It is also a reasonable concern that Sarah Palin does not know that Africa is a continent. It is also a reasonable concern that Rick Perry, Bobby Jindal, and Mark Sanford are the new media darlings of the "Reformed" Republican Party.

Now V-rod, tell me again why the above points are nothing to be not only concerned about, but "non-issues" rather than pulling out your over-used and tired "Conspiracy Theory wack job" media whored talking point hammer- mmmmkay?

 

[StateofTrance]

Ah, the conspiracy theorists whackjobs show up again. Forum was pro Palin in 2007, then she is thrown under the bus, now Mark Sanford. I am willing to bet that some of you would of waited 3 months before going after BJ Lawson had he won.

What are you smoking? There were threads or two about Palin being a "fan" of Ron Paul. But that's about it.

Palin is as neo-con as Sanford. Please don't be a disillusioned Republican and get carried away that easily.

 

[revolutionary8]

And out come the haters who call everyone who questions their politicians' actions' "Conspiracy Theorists" in order to not only divide, but to silence dissent and reasonable concerns. I have not figured out if this is your intention, but it is most certainly the result.

It is reasonable to be concerned that Mark Sanford, along with Rick Perry, attended the Bilderberg meeting this year.

It is reasonable to be concerned that Sarah Palin flys the Isreali flag in her office and speaks of the huge threat that Iran is. It is also a reasonable concern that Sarah Palin does not know that Africa is a continent. It is also a reasonable concern that Rick Perry, Bobby Jindal, and Mark Sanford are the new media darlings of the "Reformed" Republican Party.

Now V-rod, tell me again why the above points are nothing to be not only concerned about, but "non-issues" rather than pulling out your over-used and tired "Conspiracy Theory wack job" media whored talking point hammer- mmmmkay?

sorry,
wrong thread.:o

 

[Knightskye]

I'd rather have this guy:

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Johnson 2012?

Has he reversed his position on regulating the internet?

 

[SLSteven]

How many times do we have to point out that if you were invited you would probably go. I WOULD

Was Ron Paul invited?

 

[V-rod]

And out come the haters who call everyone who questions their politicians' actions' "Conspiracy Theorists" in order to not only divide, but to silence dissent and reasonable concerns. I have not figured out if this is your intention, but it is most certainly the result.

It is reasonable to be concerned that Mark Sanford, along with Rick Perry, attended the Bilderberg meeting this year.

It is reasonable to be concerned that Sarah Palin flys the Isreali flag in her office and speaks of the huge threat that Iran is. It is also a reasonable concern that Sarah Palin does not know that Africa is a continent. It is also a reasonable concern that Rick Perry, Bobby Jindal, and Mark Sanford are the new media darlings of the "Reformed" Republican Party.

Now V-rod, tell me again why the above points are nothing to be not only concerned about, but "non-issues" rather than pulling out your over-used and tired "Conspiracy Theory wack job" media whored talking point hammer- mmmmkay?

Oh NOES! NOT BILDERBERGGG!!!

On a serious note, I'm not terribly impressed by Palin, but that Not knowing Africa thing was debunked as a total hoax. A lie travels much more quickly than the truth, and the truth usually gets buried for the sake of convenience.

As for Israeli flag, you can chalk that up to Evangelical Christianity more than interest in global foreign policy. I have a lot of extended family, like many, who are Southern Baptists, and they buy into the whole "we must defend Israel because God wants it" mantra. Some hard-nosed conservative intellectuals make some good points about supporting a democracy like Israel in the middle east, but lets not kid ourselves, we are supporting it mostly out of religious dogma.

 

[Grimnir Wotansvolk]

His timing is suspiciously bad. If he's so fired up about this now, how come he wasn't when Ron Paul had been talking about it before? Why did he wait until AFTER the democrat won and the republicans are now searching for a new hope?

 

[Mini-Me]

We don't even know where this guy stands on the patriot act, military comissions act, wiretapping, the end of posse commitatus, Iraq war, Iran war, Afghanastan war, federal reserve, torture, CIA secret prisons, Nato, WTO, Nafta, Nau, pre-emptive wars, on and on.


Here's what we do know. His rhetoric sounds good on economic policy. Well big deal. So does Palin, Newt Gingrich, Rush Limbaugh, Hannity, Fred Thompson, dozens of other neocons including G. W Bush when he was running.

Without cutting spending from the massive military industrial complex and the burgeoning police state at home, a conservative economic policy is not possible and is irrelevent. Why support a guy so soon, you know so little about. And the fact that the media is pimping him, and he supports McCain and Perry is pretty telling.

Amen.

 

[Truth Warrior]

Maybe Mark just took the "Ron Paul Talking Points" class at Bilderberg.

 

[brandon]

As for Israeli flag, you can chalk that up to Evangelical Christianity more than interest in global foreign policy. I have a lot of extended family, like many, who are Southern Baptists, and they buy into the whole "we must defend Israel because God wants it" mantra. Some hard-nosed conservative intellectuals make some good points about supporting a democracy like Israel in the middle east, but lets not kid ourselves, we are supporting it mostly out of religious dogma.

I'm not sure what your point is. Are you trying to say that it is okay for the president of the united states of america to fly a foreign flag in their office?

 

[itshappening]

His timing is suspiciously bad. If he's so fired up about this now, how come he wasn't when Ron Paul had been talking about it before? Why did he wait until AFTER the democrat won and the republicans are now searching for a new hope?

because he wants to present himself as that new hope, then sell us all out

 

[Roxi]

Did this board seriously go pro-Palin? I was on hiatus for the past months

If anyone supported Palin, then they should be ashamed - especially as RP supporters

it was kind of sick, some people did use the "but i kind of like her" line, and of course the "shes hot" line, but the majority of us did NOT support palin, but there were plenty of trolls around here pushing obama and mccain

 

[speciallyblend]

it was kind of sick, some people did use the "but i kind of like her" line, and of course the "shes hot" line, but the majority of us did NOT support palin, but there were plenty of trolls around here pushing obama and mccain

palin is just a neo-con corn kernel that drops out of bushes stanky azz. they are all part of the same pile of shit that needs to go. the gop leadership needs to be fired and replaced with new leaders not neo-con shills...

 

[nobody's_hero]

Are you fucking kidding me?
The media is pushing this guy to run, that's your first warning.

+1

I'm reluctant to jump on any bandwagons—I just don't know enough about the guy.

I like what Sanford says on the Real I.D. He's a staunch advocate for state's rights.

BUT

We have four years until the next presidential election. Yes, we need to start working now to plan for election 2012, but we don't need to rush in 2 weeks after election 2008 and have a push for any one candidate, and that be it—simply let it ride until 2012. The 2010 election may help us in our choices, it may not, but there is no need for the rush.

There are few candidates out there who meet the same quality as Ron Paul, but should be patient enough to weed out some who don't even come remotely close.

I have to say the same for that Johnson guy. We need to work on coordination efforts before we go rallying roughshod around candidates who may not be much more than the flavor of the month.

 

[Truth Warrior]

In late 2004, who would have predicted Ron?

 

[Printo]

This movement will go nowhere if we shun every candidate. Everyone talks about Bilderberg or CFR or how the person didnt endorse Ron Paul in the primaries. NEWS FLASH, no current governor endorsed Ron Paul. NEWS FLASH, no one cares about Bilderberg besides nutty conspiracy theorists on this board who think they're trying to take over the world.

We will most likely never find another Ron Paul. Understand that. Sanford has the voting record. The man is principled. Gary Johnson is also principled but needs to be back in some form of office in order to be taken seriously as a presidential candidate. These men are fiscally conservative & support civil liberties. Right now those are 2 good credentials that we can all rally behind. People are not ready for a full-fledged libertarian candidate, at least they werent for Dr. Paul. Maybe it was Ron Pauls delivery, I mean he's not exactly the most charismatic fellow & comes off as quirky to a lot of people. Americans want someone who appears as a leader, not a smart guy. We want both so lets get ourselves a leader, who is also smart. Johnson & Sanford are two guys that fit the bill.

Get real people. Be a little more open-minded and accept slight differences in candidates or we will never get anyone. There will never be a Ron Paul, but there will be Ron Paul-like candidates.

 

[Truth Warrior]

This movement will go nowhere if we shun every candidate. Everyone talks about Bilderberg or CFR or how the person didnt endorse Ron Paul in the primaries. NEWS FLASH, no current governor endorsed Ron Paul. NEWS FLASH, no one cares about Bilderberg besides nutty conspiracy theorists on this board who think they're trying to take over the world.

We will most likely never find another Ron Paul. Understand that. Sanford has the voting record. The man is principled. Gary Johnson is also principled but needs to be back in some form of office in order to be taken seriously as a presidential candidate. These men are fiscally conservative & support civil liberties. Right now those are 2 good credentials that we can all rally behind. People are not ready for a full-fledged libertarian candidate, at least they werent for Dr. Paul. Maybe it was Ron Pauls delivery, I mean he's not exactly the most charismatic fellow & comes off as quirky to a lot of people. Americans want someone who appears as a leader, not a smart guy. We want both so lets get ourselves a leader, who is also smart. Johnson & Sanford are two guys that fit the bill.

Get real people. Be a little more open-minded and accept slight differences in candidates or we will never get anyone. There will never be a Ron Paul, but there will be Ron Paul-like candidates.

You'll NEVER get ANYWHERE you really WANT to be, on your chosen path, POLITICS.

WAKE UP!!!

 

[The_Orlonater]

I wouldn't, and neither would Ron Paul.

I'd go to learn the enemy.

 

[The_Orlonater]

This movement will go nowhere if we shun every candidate. Everyone talks about Bilderberg or CFR or how the person didnt endorse Ron Paul in the primaries. NEWS FLASH, no current governor endorsed Ron Paul. NEWS FLASH, no one cares about Bilderberg besides nutty conspiracy theorists on this board who think they're trying to take over the world.

We will most likely never find another Ron Paul. Understand that. Sanford has the voting record. The man is principled. Gary Johnson is also principled but needs to be back in some form of office in order to be taken seriously as a presidential candidate. These men are fiscally conservative & support civil liberties. Right now those are 2 good credentials that we can all rally behind. People are not ready for a full-fledged libertarian candidate, at least they werent for Dr. Paul. Maybe it was Ron Pauls delivery, I mean he's not exactly the most charismatic fellow & comes off as quirky to a lot of people. Americans want someone who appears as a leader, not a smart guy. We want both so lets get ourselves a leader, who is also smart. Johnson & Sanford are two guys that fit the bill.

Get real people. Be a little more open-minded and accept slight differences in candidates or we will never get anyone. There will never be a Ron Paul, but there will be Ron Paul-like candidates.

I'm tired of the rats in this country, I don't want to be a part of this cult. Let's secede to build a new Republic.