Glenn Beck has "had it up to here" with us (Ron Paul Supporters)

[TheTexan]

Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, etc are not conservatives. Best case scenario, they honestly believe and like to think they are conservatives. Worst case scenario they are simply straight up lying to appeal to an audience that also likes to think they are conservative.

Fiscal responsibility. Limited government. Constitution. Buzz words. Bullshit. All of it.

It's just a fucking game to these people. The hosts of these shows play this game to bring in the fame and $$$, the listeners of these shows play this game to make them feel better about their shitty existence, a social club/hobby, and gives them the illusion of control. They love that shit. The actual issues, not so much, not really a big deal.

All the talk of conservatism and bullshitting about how much they'd love a real fiscal conservative candidate "if only there was one" is all bullshit. They just like talking about these things. When it comes time to actually implement the shit that comes out of their mouth, they make a hundred reasons why they would love to but simply can't.

None of it's real folks. It's all a show. Don't get caught up in their lies. Glenn Beck is not a conservative, he was never close to endorsing Dr. Paul, he does not "get things right sometimes," he is a bought and paid for entertainer.

 

[sailingaway]

Here is a report of it: Glenn Beck Attacks “Ron Paul People”

http://theswash.com/liberty/glenn-beck-attacks-ron-paul-people

 

[sailingaway]

And here's another response: http://redstateeclectic.typepad.com/redstate_commentary/2012/09/third-party.html

 

[anaconda]

Glenn Beck is a part of the problem. Screw him

He's part of the bought-and-paid-for-media. Why did we expect anything different?

 

[anaconda]

 

[jmdrake]

My thoughts exactly! What's with these people? They kick us to the curb then they're mad cause we aren't going to vote for their guy? If nobody but Obama or Romney were running I still wouldn't vote for Obama or Romney. If nothing else, I just wouldn't vote. "Split the vote" my foot! That assumes that Romney had a possibility to get my vote in the first place.

You had your chance.

You were fairly warned.

You could have joined with us, and supported a man of true principles, courage and integrity.

You could have been part of history and given the American people, for the first time in decades, a true "choice" between freedom and bondage.

But, you didn't.

You, and many that "follow" you, instead mocked us, cursed us, laughed at us, beat us up, broke our bones and had us arrested.

Fuck you, now.



If, assuming you're not just part of the government propaganda system, you really care about what happens in November, if it really matters to you that much, then I have only one thing to say to you:

NO ONE BUT PAUL

Some men you can't reason with and nothing you say will change their mind...

 

[jmdrake]

thread winner

 

[rdhall]

Here is an edited YouTube version of just the "Ron Paul" comments.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dgf0_o6ThV0

 

[cajuncocoa]

Who cares? This isn't a popularity contest we are in. It is about issues and principles.

What's your point? Beck pretends to support our issues and principles, then kicks us in the teeth when it's time to vote. I should refrain from criticizing him because.............. ???

 

[cajuncocoa]

Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, etc are not conservatives. Best case scenario, they honestly believe and like to think they are conservatives. Worst case scenario they are simply straight up lying to appeal to an audience that also likes to think they are conservative.

Fiscal responsibility. Limited government. Constitution. Buzz words. Bullshit. All of it.

It's just a fucking game to these people.

I think they're in it for only one thing: Team Republican.

Enlightened people know there's no difference between the two parties, but most people do not know that.

All Hannity, Beck, Limbaugh, et al care about is getting the (m)asses who listen to them to continue to vote straight GOP (unless that GOP candidate is Ron Paul, of course).

 

[Spikender]

Beck was never FOR Paul and his supporters. He didn't just "end up" there.

What I meant was that he led me to Paul, but when I found out he was against him, rabidly against him I might add, Beck lost my support.

 

[cajuncocoa]

What I meant was that he led me to Paul, but when I found out he was against him, rabidly against him I might add, Beck lost my support.

I used to listen to him too. At the time I was listening regularly, when he first started broadcasting in my radio market, he hadn't said much about Ron Paul... but he sounded as though he gets it about what's wrong with the country. He was even calling himself a libertarian!! I don't remember when I found out about his feelings toward Ron Paul, but he had already lost my support by the time he interviewed Debra Medina. I knew it was a mistake for her to go on his show.

 

[LibertyEagle]

What's your point? Beck pretends to support our issues and principles, then kicks us in the teeth when it's time to vote. I should refrain from criticizing him because.............. ???

Nothing wrong with criticizing him when he was wrong. But, Beck does support some of the things we want, if only in rhetoric. That can be useful to convince others and then get them to study more. I don't have to agree totally with someone to leverage some of their blather. Maybe because I'm not looking for a new idol. I know what my principles are and I am not threatened by people like Beck.

 

[cajuncocoa]

Nothing wrong with criticizing him when he was wrong. But, Beck does support some of the things we want, if only in rhetoric. That can be useful to convince others and then get them to study more. I don't have to agree totally with someone to leverage some of their blather. Maybe because I'm not looking for a new idol. I know what my principles are and I am not threatened by people like Beck.

If that works for you, go for it. I want nothing to do with the likes of Beck, Hannity, and Limbaugh.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, etc are not conservatives. Best case scenario, they honestly believe and like to think they are conservatives. Worst case scenario they are simply straight up lying to appeal to an audience that also likes to think they are conservative.

Fiscal responsibility. Limited government. Constitution. Buzz words. Bullshit. All of it.

It's just a fucking game to these people. The hosts of these shows play this game to bring in the fame and $$$, the listeners of these shows play this game to make them feel better about their shitty existence, a social club/hobby, and gives them the illusion of control. They love that shit. The actual issues, not so much, not really a big deal.

All the talk of conservatism and bullshitting about how much they'd love a real fiscal conservative candidate "if only there was one" is all bullshit. They just like talking about these things. When it comes time to actually implement the shit that comes out of their mouth, they make a hundred reasons why they would love to but simply can't.

None of it's real folks. It's all a show. Don't get caught up in their lies. Glenn Beck is not a conservative, he was never close to endorsing Dr. Paul, he does not "get things right sometimes," he is a bought and paid for entertainer.

Yeah, but you are looking past the fact that he does espouse some conservative talking points. More than most any other major media person. It's useful, because the people who listen to them are really looking for something true, like what Ron, Rand, Justin, and Thomas offer. Also don't forget that he has suggested several books to his listeners that are quite good. His listeners are low-hanging fruit. So, it doesn't make sense to me to make them out like they are our enemies.

 

[LibertyEagle]

If that works for you, go for it. I want nothing to do with the likes of Beck, Hannity, and Limbaugh.

It's not about Beck, cocoa. It's about his listeners.

Note: Keep in mind that I live in Texas and I was a huge Debra Medina supporter.

 

[CaptLouAlbano]

If that works for you, go for it. I want nothing to do with the likes of Beck, Hannity, and Limbaugh.

But the question is: do you want to be able to persuade the listeners of Beck, Hannity and Limbaugh to support our candidates? That, as I see it, is the bigger issue. With the exception of major elections (Senator, Governor, President) Beck and the rest do not comment on candidates typically. So for state races, House races and local races, national radio hosts will have little, if any, comment on the candidates. But we sure as heck need their listeners votes if we want our guy running for the state house to win the election.

So do you have the ability to engage someone who is a listener of Beck and the others on the issues where we agree and persuade them to look at other issues from a different perspective?

 

[Spikender]

I used to listen to him too. At the time I was listening regularly, when he first started broadcasting in my radio market, he hadn't said much about Ron Paul... but he sounded as though he gets it about what's wrong with the country. He was even calling himself a libertarian!! I don't remember when I found out about his feelings toward Ron Paul, but he had already lost my support by the time he interviewed Debra Medina. I knew it was a mistake for her to go on his show.

I used to go on his website "the blaze", and I remember a combination of some of the posters there and some articles bashing Ron is what finally sent me over the edge and away from Beck. It felt like I had been betrayed, but now I'm wising up to people who talk the talk but don't walk the walk.

 

[cajuncocoa]

But the question is: do you want to be able to persuade the listeners of Beck, Hannity and Limbaugh to support our candidates? That, as I see it, is the bigger issue. With the exception of major elections (Senator, Governor, President) Beck and the rest do not comment on candidates typically. So for state races, House races and local races, national radio hosts will have little, if any, comment on the candidates. But we sure as heck need their listeners votes if we want our guy running for the state house to win the election.

So do you have the ability to engage someone who is a listener of Beck and the others on the issues where we agree and persuade them to look at other issues from a different perspective?

Maybe. I can be diplomatic in a face-to-face conversation with a prospective Ron Paul supporter.

But I'm not going to worry about kissing Beck's ass on an Internet message board!!

 

[CaptLouAlbano]

Maybe. I can be diplomatic in a face-to-face conversation with a prospective Ron Paul supporter.

Good to hear that. Persuasion is the key to a successful activist. That and having really comfortable shoes.