Glenn Beck evolving?

[cajuncocoa]

My opinion. Glenn Beck will sing the praises of the libertarians and his website and his show will get hits and listeners from this very forum and others. Then once we have all declared him the the "voice of libertarians" which is what he seems to want, things will begin to change. Come 2016, he will say that he REALLY REALLY likes Rand Paul but he just doesn't have the numbers and that Rubio who may not be perfect because you know "no one is perfect" will be our best hope and the sheep will follow.

I think Rubio is done. I agree with everything you said except for Beck's choice of candidate...I still think he'll go all in for Santorum again.

 

[TheTexan]

Agreed. Historically speaking it's akin to have the Mongol hordes appear on the horizon and grind you into dust. Roving despotic bands would rule the day in any true anarchy scenario. Anyone that disputes that disputes thousands of years of human history.

I'm fairly sure that the number of people killed by democide (government sponsored murder) **grossly** outnumbers the number of people killed by "roving despotic bands."

How many people were killed by democide last century alone? Something like 300 million?

Sorry. I shouldn't have responded I'll let this die, this line of discussion is very off topic

 

[bolil]

Glenn Beck is developing retractable claws?!?! WOE IS ME!

 

[twomp]

I think Rubio is done. I agree with everything you said except for Beck's choice of candidate...I still think he'll go all in for Santorum again.

I'm not sure what would cause Rubio to be "done". The sip of water? Romney managed to win the nomination even though he was the architect of Obamacare. If the rank and file forgave Romney for that, they will forgive Rubio for his sip of water.

 

[anaconda]

I think Rubio is done. I agree with everything you said except for Beck's choice of candidate...I still think he'll go all in for Santorum again.

Rand will blow Santorum out of the race in the first month, despite Frothy playing the terror card and the drug card. I don't think Frothy can begin to compete with Rand in a debate. I worry about someone like Jeb far more than Frothy.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

Why does everyone think chaos would happen if there was all of the sudden no government, sure we might have some initial issues pop up but things would settle and life would go on, we are adaptive as human beings. Private defense agency for national security in a ancap world. And the only people taking our freedoms is government.

The totality of human history.

 

[mad cow]

I call it ineffectualness and the LP has had 40 years of it.

Seats in the Senate
0 / 100
Seats in the House
0 / 435
Governorships
0 / 50
State Upper Houses
0 / 1,921
State Lower Houses
0 / 5,410

There have been ten Libertarian Party members elected to State lower houses,but none for the last dozen years or so.Also the odd city council member,school board,dogcatcher...

 

[NorfolkPCSolutions]

Rand will blow Santorum out of the race in the first month, despite Frothy playing the terror card and the drug card. I don't think Frothy can begin to compete with Rand in a debate. I worry about someone like Jeb far more than Frothy.

Please don't use the words "Santorum" and "blow" in the same sentence. I'm a rather heavy smoker, and my laughter just turned into hacks and wheezes. My kid's trying to sleep ffs

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

I'm fairly sure that the number of people killed by democide (government sponsored murder) **grossly** outnumbers the number of people killed by "roving despotic bands."

How many people were killed by democide last century alone? Something like 300 million?

Sorry. I shouldn't have responded I'll let this die, this line of discussion is very off topic

It's fun to discuss theoretically. 300 million isn't that shocking given the exponential population growth within the last century coupled with technological advances in the art of killing. Some estimate the Mongols wrecked death upon 40 million during their reign. History is on my side, someone will wear the reigns whether by government decree or will to power.

 

[anaconda]

Please don't use the words "Santorum" and "blow" in the same sentence. I'm a rather heavy smoker, and my laughter just turned into hacks and wheezes. My kid's trying to sleep ffs

Sorry man.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

Rand will blow Santorum out of the race in the first month, despite Frothy playing the terror card and the drug card. I don't think Frothy can begin to compete with Rand in a debate. I worry about someone like Jeb far more than Frothy.

Religious fundamentalism plays well in Iowa. The last election cycles have proven this with Huckabee and Santorum. There's still enough juice in the GOP for someone to live of the land so to speak and eek out an existence playing the fundie card. They will ultimately be denied the nomination though. A "moderate" by media standards like Jeb or Rubio would have enormous sway from the push they will receive in the media and elsewhere. So, Jeb/Rubio are long-term threats. Fundies are more immediate threats.

 

[anaconda]

Religious fundamentalism plays well in Iowa. The last election cycles have proven this with Huckabee and Santorum.

Good observation. But there were honestly no exciting candidates in 2008 or 2012. The fact that these two imposter-conservative clowns each won in IA is strong evidence. So I think the Iowa voters may have essentially "defaulted" to the religiosity test. I think Rand may very well get people inspired. Plus Rand is a pro life Christian so he's not at a great deficit in this area.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

You're confusing small-l "libertarian movement" with Big-L Libertarian Party. Many of us who are involved with the libertarian movement are independents and some are even in the GOP. We're about issues, not party.

I frankly don't care how you label it. It's about implementing your ideas. If you can't do that in some realistic way it's just talk.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

Good observation. But there were honestly no exciting candidates in 2008 or 2012. The fact that these two imposter-conservative clowns each won in IA is strong evidence. So I think the Iowa voters may have essentially "defaulted" to the religiosity test. I think Rand may very well get people inspired. Plus Rand is a pro life Christian so he's not at a great deficit in this area.

I definitely agree with that. Rand might even be able to break through with the religious crowd, even if he's not their first choice I bet he's their second. It will be interesting to see if we can hit that critical mass where people start jumping ship into Rand's camp seeing him as the only viable option.

 

[TheTexan]

I frankly don't care how you label it. It's about implementing your ideas. If you can't do that in some realistic way it's just talk.

If you want to play that card, that goes both ways. The conservative wing of the republican party hasn't accomplished shit either.

 

[COpatriot]

What a fantastic display of feigned indignation by Beck. Is this guy really going to try and lecture us about sanctimoniousness?

Beck knows goddamn well why he is almost universally hated by the libertarian community which he pretends to be a member of and it is not just because of Ron Paul, although that is part of it. Beck had his chance during the primary to endorse the one libertarian in the GOP field who he apparently seems to agree with across the board. But no, Beck still had an audience consisting primarily of mouth-breathers that he had to patronize and so he continuously shit on Ron Paul. And then Glenn beck the "libertarian" did the unthinkable by backing the single most authoritarian, warmongering anti-libertarian in the race in Rick Santorum. And then beck chastised us for not supporting Romney even though beck himself knew he was no different than Obama. Combine this with the Medina ambush, ripping off other people's material, and all the other bullshit he's pulled over the last several years.

I say all of this of course to make my point which should be clear to all of you by now. Glenn Beck has no principles. He is a con-artist and I am not about to be lectured by a swindling, sniveling liar.

Fuck you Beck!

 

[John F Kennedy III]

Are members here really starting to trust Beck? That's disgusting.

The membership of this forum continues to degrade further away from Liberty every time I turn around...

 

[Indy Vidual]

We need people like Glen Beck, just like we need Obama to help us.

 

[FrankRep]

How many times has Glenn Beck attacked Judge Napolitano or stabbed him in the back?

Judge Napolitano and Glenn Beck are friends.

 

[NorfolkPCSolutions]

Are members here really starting to trust Beck? That's disgusting.

The membership of this forum continues to degrade further away from Liberty every time I turn around...

I fucking hope not. Perhaps the RPF collective memory is not what I perceive it to be...someone oughta start a thread entitled "A Touching Retrospective on a Great American, Glenn Beck" and fill it with video and audio links, then ask the mods to kindly sticky that motherfucker