Glenn Beck evolving?

[GunnyFreedom]

 

[John F Kennedy III]

1. Awesome movie, awesome portrayal, awesome moment. So thank you for that clip.
2. I never once pretended Beck never had an authoritarian position (he still has some); I simply said that on the occasions where Beck has changed policy views, it has always been in favor of the libertarian or the more libertarian stance.
3. While you promised you'd "be my huckleberry" and man up to the formal challenge I laid out, you instead completely sidestepped it.
   Either provide actual concrete evidence of Beck changing policies toward authoritarianism on one of the 500 different occasions you claim it has happened, or sit on your own thumb before sucking it.

This is Glenn Beck we are talking about. He constantly flips positions. Have you only known about him for a few weeks or something?

You issued me a formal challenge and can't even get on a basic level of subject comprehension. You don't even understand the subject we are debating nor do you understand you lost the challenge in the same post you issued it. Perhaps we can debate a different subject? Or I can let you mulligan to some other Beck related topic.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

Lol so true. The extraterrestrial(s) that created us left alot of room for improvement.

 

[torchbearer]

Lol so true. The extraterrestrial(s) that created us left alot of room for improvement.

I think the program is corrupted.
This system will never come up with the ultimate answer.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

I think the program is corrupted.
This system will never come up with the ultimate answer.

I agree bro. 90%+ people wouldn't be able to handle real liberty. If they aren't being told what to do they can't function.

 

[Lucille]

We tried to take advantage of two historic opportunities to change the direction of the country, with Ron in '08 and '12. Beck was one of the roadblocks.

Glenn Beck Begs/Harangues Libertarians to Accept Him & Others Who Are 'trying to honestly learn'
http://reason.com/blog/2013/02/27/glenn-beck-begsharangues-libertarians-to

Ann Coulter's libertarians-are-"pussies" remark provoked a lengthy, rambling, and very interesting response recently from broadcasting provocateur/entrepreneur Glenn Beck.

I recommend you listen to the whole 18 minutes, in which Beck, who has been identifying more and more with the "libertarian" label, complains bitterly about being subject to withering philisophical "litmus tests" by skeptical libertarians and Ron Paul supporters (some of whom he calls "more fascist than anyone in the Republican Party"), declares his full-throated support for Sen. Rand Paul (R-Kentucky) as a presidential candidate ("Rand Paul is your best shot right now"), apologizes for originally being in favor of the PATRIOT Act and warantless wiretapping ("Boy, what a fool I was"), mentions that he's been having plenty of off-air conversations about libertarianism with Penn Jillette, and above all beseeches libertarians to take advantage of their historic opportunity to change the direction of the country. This excerpt captures the spirit:

Libertarians, I'm begging you, please: See the opportunity you have with about thirty percent of this nation; maybe sixty percent of this nation. They will come your way. They live in that space. Until you go and say, 'There's no other way but this way!' No one wants to hear that. You don't want to hear that from the people in Washington in the Republican or Democratic Party. Don't give us another choice where it is all or nothing [...]

And recognize that we're not always perfect. Some of us are coming a little late to the game. And we apologize that we're not as smart as you are.

[...]
My feeling on Glenn Beck and his now-more-libertarian The Blaze network (where I guest semi-frequently on the nightly newscast, including tomorrow), is basically the same as whenever I hear anyone embracing or engaging more libertarian viewpoints: Cool. I like libertarian ideas; am eager to see them discussed widely, and I'm confident that the basic broad philosophy will withstand association with anyone claiming all or part of the word. I understand that many libertarians, particularly the ones who (unlike me) are grounded more squarely in a philosophical strain, have the interest and occasionally the incentive to engage strenuously in quien-es-mas-libertarian debates, but that's not my bag. Neither is dropping the self-descriptor just because this or that unclean person or faction is waving the flag.
[...]
I think the far more interesting question here isn't whether Glenn Beck can or should use the L-word, it's whether he's right about the 30-60 percent number and libertarianism's "historic opportunity" to win hearts and minds right now with political tactics that resemble Rand Paul's more than those of his father. I'm too old to be optimistic about politics, but I agree that it's at least a fascinating story to watch.

 

[sailingaway]

I 'accept' EVERYONE who is 'trying to learn', I am just not going to say they are us and give the image reins when they just finished stabbing us in the back from the last time they got influence saying they were one of us.

 

[NorfolkPCSolutions]

We tried to take advantage of two historic opportunities to change the direction of the country, with Ron in '08 and '12. Beck was one of the roadblocks.

And with that, this thread should end. But it fucking won't, will it...