Glenn Beck evolving?

Judge Napolitano and Glenn Beck are good friends and the Judge used to guest host his Beck's show. What does this say about Judge Napolitano?

Judge Nap is just a nice guy. He has lots of friends... He's even friendly with Charlie Rangle for pete sakes. Nap is no shill though - he's the real deal.

Beck, on the other hand, is not such a nice guy. He has shown his true colors many times.

I see Beck for who he is - a bottom feeding shill who is no friend of liberty. He is the "pied piper" who has been sent to rid the GOP of the liberty loving "rat infestation". Be careful when listening to his tune... He'll do the same with the liberty movement that he did with the tea party.
 
I just meant that if we had no government and no national defense we wouldn't be able to defend the freedoms that we would have if we had limited government.

Why does everyone think chaos would happen if there was all of the sudden no government, sure we might have some initial issues pop up but things would settle and life would go on, we are adaptive as human beings. Private defense agency for national security in a ancap world. And the only people taking our freedoms is government.
 
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This SOB did so much to undermine RP's campaign, I'm struggling to listen to him talk about how "libertarian-ism is not about a person..." He's right. It isn't.

Here's the problem, Glenn: those of us in the liberty movement who worked so hard, who knocked on doors, who raised our voices in polite conversation with strangers, and disregarded social mores and spoke with complete strangers about politics at any and every opportunity, who placed our treasure on the line $20.12 at a time, who wrote letters to newspaper editors nationwide, who took out full-page ads in national publications, and who were in the end cheated out of even the opportunity to see a good and noble man have a shot in the 2012 election...we have looong memories.

We have archived video and audio, and we have captured your likeness and voice in these mediums. We know you, not simply of you. Many of us have been listening to your show since the early 2000's. Many of us considered you to be an honest, reliable source of information. Many of us were your "students" on your FOX show, TiVo'ing or DVR'ing your show out of a desire to hear some truth in the media. You were instrumental in the waking of many minds, and that is to your credit, sir. However, take this not as a compliment. You were instrumental in all the wrong ways.

As soon as the Iowa Caucuses in 2011, we heard you. As soon as the nomination process was shaking out, we heard you. As soon as it became apparent to you that "we," the "Ron Paul people," were not going to be convinced to once again choose between "the lesser of two evils," we heard you. We were listening. We heard you say nothing. We heard you join in the rest of the media as Ron Paul's campaign won Iowa, and was cheated out of victory, and say nothing. We heard you as New Hampshire was won by the sheer will of the "Ron Paul people," only to have the GOP throw out entire ballots, skewing the results to their benefit, and we heard you, again, say nothing.

I'm only halfway through the video referenced in the OP, yet I was compelled to post, first to remark that you are wearing a hat in this video with "D" for "dumbass" on it, but when I placed my fingers on the keyboard...all this came out, instead.

You haven't changed. I see your face flapping about, I hear sounds that seem to be words, but all I hear when you talk, Glenn, on the radio and in this video, is nothing. Nothing at all.

I am contractually bound to say "Fuck Glenn Beck" in any GB thread, and I've been slacking lately. So, fuck you, Mister Beck! I, unlike you, am not afraid to say that which is uncomfortable, when it needs to be said.

Sorta like when an honest man, for the first time in several decades, has the support of millions and the real chance to unseat a dictator, and rather than choose the uncomfortable, risky path and deviate from subject matter more readily digested by your audience populated largely by Neoconservative Zionists, the elderly and indigent, and those whose car radio is able to recieve your ideological feces more readily than the ideological feces of some other nitwit NWO mouthpiece - this includes voices on both the left and the right - you chose that which was comfortable and familiar. And that which you achieved was the retention of this yoke of totalitarianism, under the dictator God/Man/King Barack Obama. You'd have gotten the same goddamn thing under Mitt Romney. It may take some time for you to sort this out, but I'll help you along...

There's a lot of us here at RPF that voted Johnson, many who wrote in the good Doctor, and many who chose to get shitfaced or stoned rather than take part in the State religion of Voting Day. Or they simply found something else to do, if only to keep the inevitible result of the 2012 election from fucking up their day too much, like go to work.

The next day, any of us who went to work the next day and struck up a political conversation with a co-worker who was a Romney supporter, were blamed for Obama's victory. We were told that if we had only "fell in line" we would somehow have "saved the country." I will say now, as I said that day, that it wasn't "us", the "Ron Paul people," who were responsible for Romney's defeat. It was the GOP's fault. They nominated the wrong fucking guy. You helped, Glenn...you abandoned the country for which you shed false tears for on the radio several times a year...you helped the GOP nominate the wrong guy, Glenn, by keeping your mouth shut like a good little sheeple, and if that wasn't good enough, you took any opportunity to call us "kooks" and "radicals." You said the same about Ron Paul, rather than listen to what the man had to fucking say. You should be ashamed of yourself...

Perhaps you will have your experience on the Road to Demascus, Saul into Paul, and all that. Maybe you already have, and I just don't know it yet, because I've stopped paying attention to you. My time spent composing this post represents the most time I've spent thinking of you in months. Eventually, you may become a great voice in the liberty movement. Believe it or not, even I could forgive you. But I could never forget what you've done...alas, I doubt it. And if you do, I'll still avoid your influence, you maggot. We all know you moved to Texas to try to become Alex Jones. You shoulda went to fucking Salt Lake City! (Oooohhh, I went there...a Mormon joke)

You are part of the machine that denied this country it's greatest chance at turning this thing around. So fuck you, for now.

Just to be fair, though, I'll finish watching your fucking video. I just hope I have less to say when I finish the goddamn video rather than having watched only some of this shit
 
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The guy in the red sweater is an idiot for saying that "the libertarians got dragged right along" by the OWS crowd, when, in fact, the Ron Paul faction's reasoning for the income disparity was 180 degrees polar to the liberal faction at these gatherings.
Beck's little sidekicks are morons. The Paul supporters/libertarians that attended OWS were attempting to educate that rabble. They saw a group of politically orientated people and sought to engage them intellectually. The most visible example was Peter Schiff going down to OWS.

 
There were Ron Paul people staying at an OWS event who were robbed and bullied in one instance. This was well-publicized.
All the Paulers I saw at OWS were trying to educate those misguided souls. They were imploring them that they were protesting the symptoms and not the cause.
 
Ron Paul was completely, undeniably, demonstrably, utterly, absolutely, unquestionably electable.
That is an awful arrogant statement. Arrogance often leads to dramatic defeats throughout history. I'm not entirely sure Ron could've defeated the Obama machine. So many dominoes would have to fall perfectly to make that happen and we couldn't even get the first domino of Iowa to fall our way let alone domino #998. Ron's own district in Texas and the people that arguably know him the best weren't overwhelming in favor of his Presidency. Stuff like that scares me to the point where I can see scenarios where Obama's campaign rolls us up like a carpet.
 
Beck's little sidekicks are morons. The Paul supporters/libertarians that attended OWS were attempting to educate that rabble. They saw a group of politically orientated people and sought to engage them intellectually. The most visible example was Peter Schiff going down to OWS.



It's a good thing Peter was talking to a light weight at the 1:06:27 mark. An informed citizen who understands the Constitution in terms of representation in the old of, by and for department could have made Peter look really foolish there and buried him.
 
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If you want to hurt someone, you ignore them. It worked on Ron Paul. That's why I question this whole elaborate Glenn Beck theory. Secondly, the judge, who I respect, vouched for Beck. So logically speaking, I have trouble believing he is this nefarious mastermind.
Agreed. Beck is just a confused man trying to figure out this crazy system. The majority of people never even get to that point. He's has good 40 years of indoctrination to shed.
 
If you want to hurt someone, you ignore them. It worked on Ron Paul. That's why I question this whole elaborate Glenn Beck theory. Secondly, the judge, who I respect, vouched for Beck. So logically speaking, I have trouble believing he is this nefarious mastermind.

It's not always with a malicious intent. Some people, possibly Beck, are simply dishonest with themselves, and this eventually manifests as outward dishonesty.

People like to believe they like freedom. Who doesn't want to believe they like freedom, right? But many people actually don't. Choices, responsibility, uncertainty, etc. The thought of freedom, true freedom, actually scares many people.

During periods of intermissions of such as this, it can be difficult to identify who truly wants freedom, and who likes talking about freedom. It becomes crystal clear, though, where one stands, when it comes time to take action on making that freedom a reality.

Glenn Back has had several opportunities to take action to advance freedom, but so far, when it comes to time to make that freedom a reality, he instead stabs freedom in the back. Whether that's with malicious intent, or simply cognitive dissonance, it matters little, because actions speak louder than words..
 
I call it ineffectualness and the LP has had 40 years of it.

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You're confusing small-l "libertarian movement" with Big-L Libertarian Party. Many of us who are involved with the libertarian movement are independents and some are even in the GOP. We're about issues, not party.
 
You're confusing small-l "libertarian movement" with Big-L Libertarian Party. Many of us who are involved with the libertarian movement are independents and some are even in the GOP. We're about issues, not party.

Big L, small L, conservative, liberal, progressive, GOP, DEM; are all rooted in politics. It's all about the role of Gov't. These terms and labels are more to do with politics or a political party than a philosophy. It's the same old divide and conquer technique.
 
Anarchy would lead to a total loss of freedom, because we wouldn't be able to defend the freedom we currently have.
Agreed. Historically speaking it's akin to have the Mongol hordes appear on the horizon and grind you into dust. Roving despotic bands would rule the day in any true anarchy scenario. Anyone that disputes that disputes thousands of years of human history.

Radical socialists and assassinations were the makeup of the modern anarchist movement. Bad business.
 
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My opinion. Glenn Beck will sing the praises of the libertarians and his website and his show will get hits and listeners from this very forum and others. Then once we have all declared him the the "voice of libertarians" which is what he seems to want, things will begin to change. Come 2016, he will say that he REALLY REALLY likes Rand Paul but he just doesn't have the numbers and that Rubio who may not be perfect because you know "no one is perfect" will be our best hope and the sheep will follow.

The media will then tell the world that Rubio has now earned the support of Libertarians just like how Romney has earned the support of the Tea Party... The End.
 
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