Glenn Beck evolving?

[anaconda]

What part of 'I like him but he's not electable, so vote for Santorum because he's libertarian too (in some alternate universe where the word 'libertarian' means something else I won't say aloud)' do you not remember?

But that was Beck of the past. This is the new evolving Beck.

 

[acptulsa]

Ron Paul wasn't electable, but he built a formidable movement. Secondly, Beck never stated that Santorum was a libertarian.

Ron Paul was completely, undeniably, demonstrably, utterly, absolutely, unquestionably electable.

See? I told you that you can't fix stupid.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ction-matchup/2012/02/18/gIQABoeUMR_blog.html

http://www.fitsnews.com/2011/09/27/ron-paul-leads-obama-in-new-poll/

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/318764

http://politicalnews.me/?id=12069

http://www.ibtimes.com/ron-paul-2012-rasmussen-poll-says-he-would-beat-obama-418358

http://politicalnews.me/?id=11876

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politi...Paul-poll-shocker-He-beats-Obama-head-to-head

What part of the independents outnumber you and us combined do you not understand? Would it help you do the math if you took your cotton pickin' shoes off?

Just damn! Somebody give me a 2x4. I gotta learn a mule somethin'.

Republicans just decided they'd rather listen to Rupert Murdoch than win the damned election.

But that was Beck of the past. This is the new evolving Beck.

We've seen him evolve before...

 

[sparebulb]

His foreign policy views seem to be pretty similar to Rand's. .... If Beck is a neocon because of his foreign policy views, than so is Rand.

Which is precisely why we need to keep practicing extreme watchfulness with regard to Rand's behavior.

At best, I consider Rand a promising work in progress in Congress and possibly the libertarian standard bearer. At worst, he is a corruptible neo-hack that is capable of routine congressional treason. He needs to know that we are watching his every move.

 

[anaconda]

Ron Paul wasn't electable, but he built a formidable movement. Secondly, Beck never stated that Santorum was a libertarian.

Beck has made no mystery of the notion that he will continue to vote for what he sees as the lesser-of-two-evils. He says in this interview that if it were between Chairman Mao and Chris Christie in 2016, that he would hold his nose and vote for Christie. He may have felt Santorum was better than either Mittens or Soetoro. Clearly naive but perhaps politically well-intended. Beck spoke against policies in this interview that are clearly supported by both establishment parties.

 

[anaconda]

Who is the "highly influential" libertarian that Beck had "never heard of?"

 

[AuH20]

Beck did make a great point when he stated that "who would want to infiltrate a movement that registers 1% nationally." That comment was dead-on. There is no payoff. It's like insisting to rob a subway newstand as opposed to a bank.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Evolving into what?


[or another video of him crying]

Cultural analyitical skills are where true evolution appears to be of interest. not exclusively on the part of the individual though as has been hinted at regarding Beck. He just happens to be the only one that seems as if he's smart enough to recognize it in my opinion. There's just a process of transition we're going through here culturally and eventually politically. In that regard you always consult the competition. Well...if I were a political strategist, that's what I'd say.

Remember?

 

[DGambler]

When he apologizes to RP publicly and preaches the NAP correctly for a year with no slip ups, I will then consider him to have begun his evolution... Until then, he's a shill.

 

[AuH20]

When he apologizes to RP publicly and preaches the NAP correctly for a year with no slip ups, I will then consider him to have begun his evolution... Until then, he's a shill.

I think that's fair. We need to watch him. He could be the genuine article or a shill. What I don't like is the close-minded approach with folks who insist without any evidence whatsoever that he is enacting this elaborate plan to take down Rand Paul. That simply doesn't hold up to logical scrutiny at the moment.

 

[acptulsa]

Beck did make a great point when he stated that "who would want to infiltrate a movement that registers 1% nationally." That comment was dead-on. There is no payoff. It's like insisting to rob a subway newstand as opposed to a bank.

Are you denying we have grown? Are you denying that trend? Are you saying the establishment has no one smart enough, or no desire, to 'head them off at the pass'?

Have you never seen a John Wayne movie?

There was no payoff? They stopped an anticorporatist who could have won the general election and declared the party over. No payoff? Do you have the slightest conception of how much K Street pays off every single weekday?

You or I could live off of it for three years.

 

[AuH20]

Are you denying we have grown? Are you denying that trend? Are you saying the establishment has no one smart enough, or no desire, to 'head them off at the pass'?

Have you never seen a John Wayne movie?

But there is no strategical incentive since we are our worst enemy. They don't need any infiltration.

 

[anaconda]

Beck did make a great point when he stated that "who would want to infiltrate a movement that registers 1% nationally." That comment was dead-on. There is no payoff.

The nay sayers might suggest that Beck is strategically interjecting himself for the nefarious purpose of "moderating" the new force of libertarian ideology into the GOP. In other words, to talk the talk but ultimately serve the function of a sort of libertarian "gatekeeper" errand boy for the GOP establishment. Specifically, his mission would be to encourage the "hardcore holier-than-thou" libertarians to come into the fold based upon "progress" we are making within the GOP (which Beck will appear to champion for the next three years), with full knowledge that the Republican nominee with-libertarian-talking-points will continue to serve only the military-industrial complex and the banks. After the primary, Beck will publicly lament that the Republican nominee was not Rand Paul, but that he will vote for the Republican because of the "progress" we have made since 2012, and implore others to do so. When in fact it will be completely insignificant in reigning in the police state, the budget, and the wars. Mission accomplished.

Another possibility is that Beck is truly an evolving soul in the midst of a great personal awakening. Perhaps a man who has had enough problems and challenges in life to have arrived at a place where he is now able to begin to see outside the box, since his own tribulations sent him to live there for a time. If this is the case, he may be an invaluable ally, and the Republican nominee may turn out to be Rand Paul.

My 2 cents. I was essentially a Beck hater. At the risk of being like Charlie Brown kicking the football, I have decided to give Beck some open mindedness today.

 

[anaconda]

But there is no strategical incentive since we are our worst enemy. They don't need any infiltration.

Well, they would like our 2 million extra votes. Plus the few million votes of GOP base that want (at least) conservative talking points from their candidate.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

The nay sayers might suggest that Beck is strategically interjecting himself for the nefarious purpose of "moderating" the new force of libertarian ideology into the GOP. In other words, to talk the talk but ultimately serve the function of a sort of libertarian "gatekeeper" errand boy for the GOP establishment.

Not bad for a guy who cries on TV like a baby and lives in his mother's basement.

 

[sparebulb]

At best, I consider Rand a promising work in progress in Congress and possibly the libertarian standard bearer. At worst, he is a corruptible neo-hack that is capable of routine congressional treason. He needs to know that we are watching his every move.

In response to myself, I forgot to add that Beck's present mission of gratuitously praising Rand is to coerce him to the latter, and away from the former.

 

[FrankRep]

Beck was saying the 1.6 billion bullets bought by DHS was lies,

Actually, The Blaze/Glenn Beck is reporting about the DHS buying bullets.

Why Is Homeland Security Buying 450 Million Rounds of Hollow Point Bullets?
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...g-450-million-rounds-of-hollow-point-bullets/

that the FEMA camps were lies.

The so-called FEMA "Death/Concentration" Camps are largely B.S.

Glenn Beck: FEMA camps debunked
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/23656/

Debunking FEMA Camp Myths
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/4312850

 

[anaconda]

Not bad for a guy who cries on TV like a baby and lives in his mother's basement.

Maybe he is a utilitarian acetic. Maybe he gets along great with his mom. Maybe he provides her with some form of care or assistance. Maybe he pays her a market rate of rent. Maybe the basement is really quiet and he can get a lot of reading and work done there. Maybe he has it decked out like Walden Pond.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

He's making it about words instead of action. He calls someone fascist for stating he is wrong. We are calling for a change in government that allows for difference of opinion without violating rights. You can have all the opinions you want Beck, just don't send my children to jail or war for them.

 

[anaconda]

He's making it about words instead of action. He calls someone facist for stating he is wrong. We are calling for a change in government that allows for difference of opinion without violating rights. You can have all the opinions you want Beck, just don't send my children to jail or war for them.

It does seem a semantic sleight of hand to suggest that someone who is fiercely uncompromising on individual liberty is a "Fascist." Yet, to the extent that the libertarians in question may have been quashing Beck's freedom of speech, there may be an iota of truth to his lament. To the extent that it may have been only a spirited debate, then that's just too bad for Beck. He chose to be a political person.

 

[afwjam]

There's always infighting between libertarians. The hardcore Mises types libertarians and the Cato/Reason libertarians attack each other all the time. Infighting among libertarians isn't unusual.

I dare say it makes sense.