Glenn Beck Dream Ticket: Allen West/Michelle Bachmann w/ Ron Paul as Treasury Secretary

Ron would never do it, because he knows that no administration would let him do what he would want to do, or needs to be done, in that position. How could we afford to invade iran if ron paul treasury secretary stabilizes our monetary supply and quits printing money?

No he woukd not accept i think.
 
payme_rick said:
You think Ron Paul would be great at that position, just imagine who he'd pick... Progress is not destination...
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And "Elections are short term efforts, revolutions are long term projects" - Ron Paul. If Ron Paul was treas. Sec, that would be a win for the liberty movement. Maybe not presidency but we would be moving in the right direction and I think RP would LOVE that role. This is just one of the talking heads "dream ticket" though. kind of like my "dream bracket" where I have Gonzaga winning the national championship.
 
I don't know why people are complaining about this. Yeah, it's not where we want to be, but it is a hell of a lot farther than we were. Glenn Beck basically just said "I like these guys, but we need someone like Ron Paul on the checkbook." We are getting closer and closer each day. Even at the very least, this bodes well for 2016.
 
how about nobody for any government office.... ;) just an idea oh but if you do want a "leader" you can voluntarily enter into a contract with that person and leave everyone else out of it :x
 
While I like Buchanan I think that Paul would be forced to offer the VP spot to someone more mainstream, like Palin or Bachman.

But I would like to see Buchanan as Sec. of State.
 
specsaregood said:
I haven't researched it, but I think I can say with confidence that the Treasury Secretary can't do anything unless like that without permission. More likely is they would appoint him as Treasury Sec. so he resigns his congressional seat, then restrain him to the point he quits or is fired and is out of public office.
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I'd imagine that he could drag a lot of secrets and dirty dealings to light without having to ask permission because he would have the access to them for the first time.

And anyone who would appoint him to this position would know what they were getting into, so I think all sorts of audits would be going on.

Of course it will take an act of Congress to abolish the FED, but I think that even the FED could be reigned in with Paul as Sec Treas.
 
JohnEngland said:
Yes indeed. Was it not that long ago when no-one listened to Ron Paul and everyone thought that he was a "crank" etc. To be considered Treasury Secretary is surely quite a good thing and shows that your message has become far more mainstream.

And besides, I understand the appeal of Allen West. He's well-spoken and articulate, a serious fellow who generally has his heart in the right place.
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Why I don't trust West and don't think his heart's in the right place:

While In The Army, West Performed Mock Execution On An Iraqi Detainee. As Slate reports, "Army investigators learned that West participated in the August 2003 forcible interrogation of an Iraqi police officer thought to be involved in a plot to assassinate him and other soldiers. In their report, the investigators found that West directed four enlisted soldiers and a female civilian interpreter to punch and kick the Iraqi detainee repeatedly in an attempt to get information. The investigation also found that West brandished his pistol during the interrogation and fired it near the detainee's head in a mock execution to scare the detainee into talking...Fourth Infantry Division commanding Gen. Raymond Odierno initially brought criminal charges against West, but a pretrial hearing officer recommended that those charges be dismissed. Instead, Odierno gave West an administrative punishment and fined him half a month's pay for two months, or about $5,000. In spring 2004, West retired from the Army." [Slate, accessed 5/20/10]
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Anti Federalist said:
Why I don't trust West and don't think his heart's in the right place:
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I don't know. It's hard to judge a man before you walk in his shoes. Being in a situation where everywhere you turn, there could be an enemy waiting. That has to be extremely stressful. Furthermore, being responsible for your men's well-being is an incredible burden to bear everyday.
 
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Even the wrong ones want us running the treasury. Business-cycle carry traders and bond vigilantes, represent!
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Do they want us to run the Treasury, or do they want to distract and divert us from running the Country?
 
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AuH20 said:
I don't know. It's hard to judge a man before you walk in his shoes. Being in a situation where everywhere you turn, there could be an enemy waiting. That has to be extremely stressful. Furthermore, being responsible for your men's well-being is an incredible burden to bear everyday.
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I disagree.

The whole point of training and educating and practicing and drilling to be an "officer" (which includes other high stress, life or death situations, some I've been in myself) is to prevent just such a thing, to maintain calm, efficient and effective control of a situation and not "freak out" and start beating and punching and shooting at prisoners.

Here's an example, find a youtube of the radio communications between ATC and Chesley Sullenberger while he was trying to ditch that fully loaded Airbus into the Hudson.

He is a machine on those comms, precise, arid, cool as a freaking cucumber, right in the face of almost certain death.

Mostly because of that, the "mission was accomplished" and everybody survived, what in 99 out of 100 other cases, would have been a fatal crash.

Besides, I just can't see Ron doing something like that.
 
Anti Federalist said:
I disagree.

The whole point of training and educating and practicing and drilling to be an "officer" (which includes other high stress, life or death situations, some I've been in myself) is to prevent just such a thing, to maintain calm, efficient and effective control of a situation and not "freak out" and start beating and punching and shooting at prisoners.

Here's an example, find a youtube of the radio communications between ATC and Chesley Sullenberger while he was trying to ditch that fully loaded Airbus into the Hudson.

He is a machine on those comms, precise, arid, cool as a freaking cucumber, right in the face of almost certain death.

Mostly because of that, the "mission was accomplished" and everybody survived, what in 99 out of 100 other cases, would have been a fatal crash.

Besides, I just can't see Ron doing something like that.
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But not everything goes according to the book outside controlled conditions. It's a dynamic situation based on adaptation. West was attempting to protect the lives of his squad members. As long as he didn't seriously injure the guy or shoot him, I don't know if it's a major offense. Obviously, it would be preferable that our servicemen wouldn't be injected into these no-win volatile situations to begin with. Utilizing the military as a glorified security force in hostile territory is an affront to all our sensibilities.
 
Anti Federalist said:
Why I don't trust West and don't think his heart's in the right place:

While In The Army, West Performed Mock Execution On An Iraqi Detainee. As Slate reports, "Army investigators learned that West participated in the August 2003 forcible interrogation of an Iraqi police officer thought to be involved in a plot to assassinate him and other soldiers.
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It's easy to judge from a couch in the US. What would you do if you captured a guy who had information about a plot to kill you and your family?

I don't think we should be over there. But I do want my friends and family who are over there to be safe.

Anti Federalist said:
Besides, I just can't see Ron doing something like that.
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Ron is good at a lot of things, but I don't necessarily believe he'd be a good soldier.
 
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TrentEmberson said:
Even the wrong ones want us running the treasury. Business-cycle carry traders and bond vigilantes, represent!
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If RP can't be president, I want him as Treasury Secretary in the worst way. Or Fed Chairman, so he can end it!
 
AuH20 said:
I don't know. It's hard to judge a man before you walk in his shoes. Being in a situation where everywhere you turn, there could be an enemy waiting. That has to be extremely stressful. Furthermore, being responsible for your men's well-being is an incredible burden to bear everyday.
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This sounds an awful lot like Conway's "When everyone around you tells you to pull the trigger, you pull the trigger" gem.

And who said West would be their dream secretary of state? Seriously? The dude is a nutter War On Terror supporter to the max.
 
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