Genetic Modification Gone Wild: 10 Signs That Our World May Be Destined To Resemble A Real

[Krugerrand]

And we can do it much faster now than we did thousand of years ago. Ever seen the modern, huge, supercows? They're insane. We've developed them over decades, maybe less.

It's not the end of the world. If an animal were to get free and breed with related species.. that could be a problem. Or it could fix a problem (nature is unpredictable like that, evolution works a lot like Austrian economics). But you know, you fix this by not letting the animal escape.

Also, we've made a lot of mistakes in the past, like with the killerbees, but people do learn from them.

As I said, the common populace aren't the only ones with common sense, whereas scientists are all balding skinny Germans with a thick accent splicing gorillas with butterflies because they get some sick perverted pleasure out of it. Scientists can only do things there's funding for. Funding is only there if there's a commercial application for it. The market has taken care of this already.

It's kinda weird how people think the market can take care of itself, but don't think those same market dynamics have any influence on science.

That is exactly what is happening with genetically modified plants! I'm glad you see it as a potential problem.

There's no free market in this. It's government funded. And, the government blocks property rights owners to sue when their plants get damaged.

 

[LawnWake]

That is exactly what is happening with genetically modified plants! I'm glad you see it as a potential problem.

There's no free market in this. It's government funded. And, the government blocks property rights owners to sue when their plants get damaged.

I... know it's happening. But I already said that the problems isn't necessarily that bad. There's way more to take consideration before you ring the alarm. All we know is that they're 'genetically modified', but what if that genetic modification has no influence on our consumption of it, or with its selection pressures in the wild?

There's cockroaches in New York.. cockroaches don't belong there, they're a tropical species. How many of you are worrying of these genes unnaturally entering the Northern hemnisphere? Or the genes of seagulls entering garbage heaps far away from sea?

Seriously, chill out. 'Oh noes plants with slightly different genes appear in the wild!' Well, whatever. Natural selection will either select them to go extinct or if they're successful they'll... survive and then what? Just because those genes are in there doesn't mean they have an advantage in that environment BECAUSE of those genes. And we've meddled with nature so often, grabbing our hair and crying our eyeballs out, only to find out that what happened was beneficial in the long run (dumping airplanes and cars into the ocean was frowned upon... until it turned out they created artificial reefs that repopulated large parts of the ocean).

And lastly, you're just plain wrong. Most scienctific innovation comes from the private sector. Period. It's not the evil government conspiring with scientists to destroy the world. It's.. for example... hospitals investing scientific research to help people on transplant lists to get new organs. And it's private companies investing in harvesting spiderwebbing from goatmilk (I already knew of this years ago).

Really, people need to stop being afraid of a world that they're not used to. In the future, we'll live on other planets, create our own animals to consume and genetically modify ourselves to survive.

 

[Krugerrand]

I... know it's happening. But I already said that the problems isn't necessarily that bad. There's way more to take consideration before you ring the alarm. All we know is that they're 'genetically modified', but what if that genetic modification has no influence on our consumption of it, or with its selection pressures in the wild?

There's cockroaches in New York.. cockroaches don't belong there, they're a tropical species. How many of you are worrying of these genes unnaturally entering the Northern hemnisphere? Or the genes of seagulls entering garbage heaps far away from sea?

Seriously, chill out. 'Oh noes plants with slightly different genes appear in the wild!' Well, whatever. Natural selection will either select them to go extinct or if they're successful they'll... survive and then what? Just because those genes are in there doesn't mean they have an advantage in that environment BECAUSE of those genes. And we've meddled with nature so often, grabbing our hair and crying our eyeballs out, only to find out that what happened was beneficial in the long run (dumping airplanes and cars into the ocean was frowned upon... until it turned out they created artificial reefs that repopulated large parts of the ocean).

And lastly, you're just plain wrong. Most scienctific innovation comes from the private sector. Period. It's not the evil government conspiring with scientists to destroy the world. It's.. for example... hospitals investing scientific research to help people on transplant lists to get new organs. And it's private companies investing in harvesting spiderwebbing from goatmilk (I already knew of this years ago).

Really, people need to stop being afraid of a world that they're not used to. In the future, we'll live on other planets, create our own animals to consume and genetically modify ourselves to survive.

I'm not grabbing hair or crying eyes.

"Private Sector" is very misleading. In my parts, those hospitals that are investing in scientific research are the educational hospitals that are getting huge tax breaks while they actively work to put the for-profit hospitals out of business. They're getting big time tax pay dollars and incentives towards their initiatives.

Mosanto - the leader of genetic modified plants - while 'private sector' is the furthest thing in the world from 'free market.'

Take note, in the post I first replied to you championed the "markets." Then, it got reduced to 'private sector.' Private sector and free market are not equivalent.

 

[LawnWake]

I'm not grabbing hair or crying eyes.

"Private Sector" is very misleading. In my parts, those hospitals that are investing in scientific research are the educational hospitals that are getting huge tax breaks while they actively work to put the for-profit hospitals out of business. They're getting big time tax pay dollars and incentives towards their initiatives.

Mosanto - the leader of genetic modified plants - while 'private sector' is the furthest thing in the world from 'free market.'

Take note, in the post I first replied to you championed the "markets." Then, it got reduced to 'private sector.' Private sector and free market are not equivalent.

No, but some of the dynamics are still at play and you've evidently missed the point; people aren't doing this for the hell of it. They're doing it because there's a certain demand. There's a demand for organs, if you want it to be or not. This drives people to grow human organs inside of cows.

There was a similar discussion in the thread about the BBC before. Even if it's government commisioned, the competition between private companies is there to earn that money. Regardless of where that money comes from. This drives people to innovate in science. They're not going to do the things they do if there wasn't money for it and they wouldn't be making money off of it if it didn't have a positive use.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

To put things in perspective; humans are scared of scientists creating a disease in a lab that could whipe out millions of people, completely forgetting that non-manmade viruses and bacteria kill thousands yearly as it is (and let's not forget about the plague or the Spanish flew -- which killed millions of people in a single pandemic) and what actually saved us from many things people died from as recently as 100 years ago is scientific progress.

There is nothing wrong with this. People that oppose slow the progress of mankind

And we can do it much faster now than we did thousand of years ago. Ever seen the modern, huge, supercows? They're insane. We've developed them over decades, maybe less.

It's not the end of the world. If an animal were to get free and breed with related species.. that could be a problem. Or it could fix a problem (nature is unpredictable like that, evolution works a lot like Austrian economics). But you know, you fix this by not letting the animal escape.

Also, we've made a lot of mistakes in the past, like with the killerbees, but people do learn from them.

As I said, the common populace aren't the only ones with common sense, whereas scientists are all balding skinny Germans with a thick accent splicing gorillas with butterflies because they get some sick perverted pleasure out of it. Scientists can only do things there's funding for. Funding is only there if there's a commercial application for it. The market has taken care of this already.

It's kinda weird how people think the market can take care of itself, but don't think those same market dynamics have any influence on science.

I... know it's happening. But I already said that the problems isn't necessarily that bad. There's way more to take consideration before you ring the alarm. All we know is that they're 'genetically modified', but what if that genetic modification has no influence on our consumption of it, or with its selection pressures in the wild?

There's cockroaches in New York.. cockroaches don't belong there, they're a tropical species. How many of you are worrying of these genes unnaturally entering the Northern hemnisphere? Or the genes of seagulls entering garbage heaps far away from sea?

Seriously, chill out. 'Oh noes plants with slightly different genes appear in the wild!' Well, whatever. Natural selection will either select them to go extinct or if they're successful they'll... survive and then what? Just because those genes are in there doesn't mean they have an advantage in that environment BECAUSE of those genes. And we've meddled with nature so often, grabbing our hair and crying our eyeballs out, only to find out that what happened was beneficial in the long run (dumping airplanes and cars into the ocean was frowned upon... until it turned out they created artificial reefs that repopulated large parts of the ocean).

And lastly, you're just plain wrong. Most scienctific innovation comes from the private sector. Period. It's not the evil government conspiring with scientists to destroy the world. It's.. for example... hospitals investing scientific research to help people on transplant lists to get new organs. And it's private companies investing in harvesting spiderwebbing from goatmilk (I already knew of this years ago).

Really, people need to stop being afraid of a world that they're not used to. In the future, we'll live on other planets, create our own animals to consume and genetically modify ourselves to survive.

This must be comedy hour.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

GE foods are bad and everything, but anyone who buys into this sci-fi BS and thinks the whole world is going to turn into a bunch of animal-animal and animal-human hybrids walking around are just over-hyping this stuff. Some pretty weird things can happen with genetics, but that doesn't mean they can do just anything. There are limits to how far you can stretch any animal's genetic code. The animals that do change in these weird ways have less potential to change in the future. This isn't some evolutionary superlink, either. I can only laugh as people here argue about how scared they are of the GE monsters that will take over the world. This is just the type of thing evolutionists get excited about because they believe it CAN happen or COULD have happened, but none of it is actually scientifically viable.

I'm not going to get into a debate with anyone, just wanted to stop in and let you all know how paranoid and pathetic you are if you think this is the sign of the endtimes or some sci-fi monster world.

 

[Danke]

#7 But Japan is not the only one doing this kind of research. In Missouri, entities that are part pig and part human are being grown with the goal of providing organs for human transplants.

And those "entities" have been seen shopping at Walmart.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

GE foods are bad and everything, but anyone who buys into this sci-fi BS and thinks the whole world is going to turn into a bunch of animal-animal and animal-human hybrids walking around are just over-hyping this stuff. Some pretty weird things can happen with genetics, but that doesn't mean they can do just anything. There are limits to how far you can stretch any animal's genetic code. The animals that do change in these weird ways have less potential to change in the future. This isn't some evolutionary superlink, either. I can only laugh as people here argue about how scared they are of the GE monsters that will take over the world. This is just the type of thing evolutionists get excited about because they believe it CAN happen or COULD have happened, but none of it is actually scientifically viable.

I'm not going to get into a debate with anyone, just wanted to stop in and let you all know how paranoid and pathetic you are if you think this is the sign of the endtimes or some sci-fi monster world.

You either have some research to do or you have a mind you need to open up. Your post is incredibly naive.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

And those "entities" have been seen shopping at Walmart.

And working there.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

You either have some research to do or you have a mind you need to open up. Your post is incredibly naive.

I take it you believe this is going to be a sci-fi nightmare someday because of all the hype. No matter. I feel perfectly safe not giving a damn because I don't "open my mind" to superstitious nonsense.

 

[jbuttell]

There is nothing wrong with this. People that oppose slow the progress of mankind

Kind of like those who voiced concern about developing the atomic bomb were just getting in the way of progress?

This reminds me of the media's constant drilling of how good it is for big year-end numbers and growth... how we need to secure energy in foreign countries regardless of the consequences... we must stop at nothing to ensure the candle BURNS twice as bright as the rest!!! Concern ourselves not with burning out, for PROGRESS is at stake!

 

[John F Kennedy III]

I take it you believe this is going to be a sci-fi nightmare someday because of all the hype. No matter. I feel perfectly safe not giving a damn because I don't "open my mind" to superstitious nonsense.

You have every right to not believe it. But just because you don't believe it doesn't mean it's not true. Nor does it mean it is "superstitious nonsense".

 

[flightlesskiwi]

Also, we've made a lot of mistakes in the past, like with the killerbees, but people do learn from them.

LOL!!!

 

[Anti Federalist]

And we can do it much faster now than we did thousand of years ago. Ever seen the modern, huge, supercows? They're insane. We've developed them over decades, maybe less.

Which explains the increase in neurologiocal disorders in children, decreases in men's fertility and girls of 6 and 7 growing breasts.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

LOL!!!

You can't make this stuff up. Lol.

 

[flightlesskiwi]

You can't make this stuff up. Lol.

i was just really surprised that statement was seemingly glossed over. RPF members generally aren't to kind when it comes to naivite.

 

[LawnWake]

Which explains the increase in neurologiocal disorders in children, decreases in men's fertility and girls of 6 and 7 growing breasts.

Yes, there's no other possibility.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Yes, there's no other possibility.

Quite possible.

And it also possible that the FrankenCows are causing it.

http://www.sustainabletable.org/issues/hormones/

 

[Cutlerzzz]

Private property rights are the cornerstone of free market economics.

Who do I sue when a viral plague wipes out 99 percent of humanity?

Damn right I'm afraid of that.

You don't support private property though.

 

[Anti Federalist]

You don't support private property though.

Because I'm in favor of tariffs?

Or because I believe that you can contractually limit what an employer demands from you when you are not actually working?