Gary Johnson: Calling illegals “illegal” is “very incendiary” (video)

[trey4sports]

yuck.

 

[RonPaulMall]

He's even getting goofed on by Tila Tequlia, lol.

 

[presence]

The common term for what the right wing statists now call "illegal immigrants" was simply "inhabitants" at the time of the Constitution.

The citizen of a free state is so united to it as to possess an individual’s proportion of the common sovereignty; but he who is no more than an

inhabitant, or resident,

has no farther connection with the state in which he resides, than such as gives him security for his person and property, agreeably to fixed laws, without any participation in government.

A Dissertation On The Manner of Acquiring The Character and Privileges Of A Citizen Of The United States - David Ramsay (1789)
https://www.scribd.com/document/36590701/Ramsay-1789-Dissertation-on-Citizenship


The entire notion of citizenship to a republic as opposed to subjectship to a monarch or state, is that

At twenty-one years of age, every freeman is at liberty to choose his country, his religion, and his allegiance.

that is citizenship, unlike subjectship, is CHOSEN BY FREEMEN not bestowed state decrees.

 

[CaptUSA]

 

[donnay]

Gary Johnson is an Anti-gun, Pro-globalist helper of Hillary Clinton and George Soros. He sold his soul to hijack the Liberty movement.

 

[pcgame]

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[donnay]

Gary Johnson is pro 2nd amendment. A libertarian/paleoconservative could also say the same thing about Donald Trump. After all, he's given a lot of money to democrats.

My mistake Gary Johnson's pick of Veep is pro-gun control.

 

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Libertarians with a boner for appealing to liberals need to be purged from the whole movement.

Physical Removal, so to speak.

 

[RestorationOfLiberty]

How else would officials round up 11 million illegals?

We send them welfare/tax credits, some states give them driver privilege cards/Driver Licences. We know who they are, where they live.

We have the means, and soon the will.

Factor in no renting to illegals, no public schools, no catch and release, no more birth right citizenship, etc. They will have no choice but leave, if they want to turn themselves in and get a free ride home, that is fine as well.

 

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Gary Johnson is pro 2nd amendment. A libertarian/paleoconservative could also say the same thing about Donald Trump. After all, he's given a lot of money to democrats.

You can not be pro 2nd Amendment and support letting in tens of millions of anti gun, leftist voters into the nation.

 

[NewRightLibertarian]

Libertarians with a boner for appealing to liberals need to be purged from the whole movement.

After the Johnson/Weld crashes and burns, that will be the next task at hand. Accountability needs to be restored to the movement, or it will die.

 

[RestorationOfLiberty]

After the Johnson/Weld crashes and burns, that will be the next task at hand. Accountability needs to be restored to the movement, or it will die.

It is dead, its members who are not mentally handicapped by Political Correctness, Autism, pathological altruism, open border insanity are joining the Alt right. You can not have liberty if you are out numbered and out voted by imported hordes of leftists.

 

[NewRightLibertarian]

It is dead, its members who are not mentally handicapped by Political Correctness, Autism, pathological altruism, open border insanity are joining the Alt right. You can not have liberty if you are out numbered and out voted by imported hordes of leftists.

I'm not ready to stick a fork in it quite yet. Hopefully Johnson/Weld completely implode and a better movement can be forged from there.

 

[notsure]

How else would officials round up 11 million illegals?

But whose plan calls for "rounding up" 11+ million illegals?

 

[RJ Liberty]

But whose plan calls for "rounding up" 11+ million illegals?

"Anyone who is in the United States illegally is subject to deportation." -- Donald Trump

"For those here today illegally who are seeking legal status, they will have one route and only one route: to return home and apply for re-entry under the rules of the new legal immigration system." -- Donald Trump

"Within ICE I'm going to create a new special deportation task force." -- Donald Trump

"No amnesty, no legalization. No sanctuary cities." -- Donald Trump's campaign manager

 

[RJ Liberty]

Gary Johnson is an Anti-gun

Hold it right there. Johnson is on the record saying "Gun Control Sounds Terrific BUT! I Think It Makes This Country LESS Safe!"

 

[donnay]

Hold it right there. Johnson is on the record saying "Gun Control Sounds Terrific BUT! I Think It Makes This Country LESS Safe!"

Then he doesn't listen to himself then...since he picked a Veep who is in favor of gun control.

 

[RJ Liberty]

Then he doesn't listen to himself then...since he picked a Veep who is in favor of gun control.

His VP candidate won't be Veep of anything, even if Johnson wins some states and comes out ahead in an indecisive election: the 12th Amendment directs the House to choose from the top three candidates, but the Senate chooses from the top two VP candidates.

 

[angelatc]

Libertarians with a boner for appealing to liberals need to be purged from the whole movement.

Well, if the appeal is civil liberty then I'm ok. ANd actually, if they would confine their social engineering attempts to the state level, I'd be ok. As a constitutional conservative, I recognize the right of states to enact laws even if I disagree with those laws. But that's never what they are.

 

[notsure]

"Anyone who is in the United States illegally is subject to deportation." -- Donald Trump

"For those here today illegally who are seeking legal status, they will have one route and only one route: to return home and apply for re-entry under the rules of the new legal immigration system." -- Donald Trump

"Within ICE I'm going to create a new special deportation task force." -- Donald Trump

"No amnesty, no legalization. No sanctuary cities." -- Donald Trump's campaign manager

Nothing about that says anything about "rounding up" illegals. From my understanding, his plan is to enforce immigration law and deport illegals as they come through the system and to abandon Obama's catch and release policy.
Notice he said, "subject to" deportation, and that they'd create a new deportation "task force" within ICE. This leads me to believe that a shift is still in the works, and that illegals will be reviewed and given an opportunity to stay in the US. In the past Donald has said that he would give illegals an expedited immigration process to come back into the US. I still think he will shift on this and just give those illegals a form of legalization and save the US the costs of deporting "good" illegals by just giving them some form of legal status.