Gary Johnson 2016 over the hillaries(hillary/trump)!!Spread the websites far and wide

[acptulsa]

Is that because the founders told you to give me one chance, or Him? hahahaha

And just as soon as Thor starts making damned good points, a Trump spammer shows up and picks a fight in the thread over nothing, hoping to derail it.

Surprise, surprise, surprise.

 

[P3ter_Griffin]

And just as soon as Thor starts making damned good points, a Trump spammer shows up and picks a fight in the thread over nothing, hoping to derail it.

Surprise, surprise, surprise.

Think what you want. I take offence to people fucking up someone's grassroots thread about the efforts an individual has put forth. There are plenty of threads to complain about Johnson in.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Think what you want. I take offence to people $#@!ing up someone's grassroots thread about the efforts an individual has put forth. There are plenty of threads to complain about Johnson in.

Except it doesn't matter what you think if you can't support your claim with anything other than your ego. And our egos tend to get us into trouble. That's the problem. We have entirely too many cowboys around here. People who dont think things through all the way before popping their mouths off. It's very wise to think things through. It's practical to consider the position one places themselves in prior to placing themselves there. Reason being is that the red face that one saves may be their own.

 

[acptulsa]

Think what you want. I take offence to people $#@!ing up someone's grassroots thread about the efforts an individual has put forth. There are plenty of threads to complain about Johnson in.

Well, maybe I am confusing you with someone else. Sorry.

Except it doesn't matter what you think if you can't support your claim with anything other than your ego. That's the problem. We have entirely too many cowboys around here. People who dont think things through all the way before popping their mouths off. It's very wise to think things through. Reason being is that the red face that one saves may be their own.

What is this thread about? Seems to me it's about an election where the two evils we're expected to choose between are just about the two most evil bastards who have ever run for the office, and about a couple of sites and videos which point that out.

Can we allow this thread to be about that? Or are we really going to compare things like Benghazi, and things like attacking the First Amendment by not only threatening to sue journalists for slander but threatening to target people on the basis of their religion, to whether a professional baker can refuse this or that or whether Johnson is willing to rule out any possibility of stopping a genocide somewhere?

And if so, why do we have to do it in this thread?

So, we have too many cowboys who are unwilling to think things through before popping off? Like as in, unwilling to think about where the proper thread for the thing they want to pop off about might be? Like that kind of cowboy, pardner?

Are the people who might actually choose the lesser evil if the choice is Satan, Be'ezelbub, or some guy who drank a juice box in the grocery store then hid the empty behind a cantaloupe allowed to have an activist thread around here any more? That's not a rhetorical question. You certainly may answer.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Well, maybe I am confusing you with someone else.

What is this thread about? Seems to me it's about an election where the two evils we're expected to choose between are just about the two most evil bastards who have ever run for the office, and about a couple of sites and videos which point that out.

Can we allow this thread to be about that? Or are we really going to compare things like Benghazi, and things like attacking the First Amendment by not only threatening to sue journalists for slander but threatening to target people on the basis of their religion, to whether a professional baker can refuse this or that or whether Johnson is willing to rule out any possibility of stopping a genocide somewhere?

And if so, why do we have to do it in this thread?

The issue was raised in the thread with regard to the bake my cake debate. The op responded to the insertion by claiming it to be a non-issue. It is patently false to profess it to be a non-issue. The issue is one that contradicts the primary fundamental principle of Individual Liberty itelf. And that is what I took issue with. So, I responded appropriately, correctly, and respectfully.

Unfortunately, P3ter_Griffin decided to pick a battle that I promise he is absolutely not prepared to finish. That was a choice on his part.

Does that answer your question?

To the latter point, I agree with you. So, then, if P3ter_Griffin would enjoy making his claim in the specific thread with which he took issue, I'll certainly accommodate him.

 

[P3ter_Griffin]

Except it doesn't matter what you think if you can't support your claim with anything other than your ego.

Individuals will be less likely to do grassroots efforts when the grassroots efforts they do do and talk about get trashed, whether we agree or not with the efficacy of the specific grassroots efforts they have undertaken, ones they may undertake in the future we may agree with. It is subjective, but imo in the grassroots if you disagree so much with the efficacy of a project someone has undertaken, and are not offering constructive criticism to their project, then don't say anything. Plenty of room for debates in other sections of RPF.

eta: I am leaving this thread. My apologies to the OP. I already sent him a +rep before all this, because his websites are nice... much better than I can do.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Individuals will be less likely to do grassroots efforts when the grassroots efforts they do do and talk about get trashed, whether we agree or not with the efficacy of the specific grassroots efforts they have undertaken, ones they may undertake in the future we may agree with. It is subjective, but imo in the grassroots if you disagree so much with the efficacy of a project someone has undertaken, and are not offering constructive criticism to their project, then don't say anything. Plenty of room for debates in other sections of RPF.

eta: I am leaving this thread. My apologies to the OP. I already sent him a +rep before all this, because his websites are nice... much better than I can do.

Well. Respectfully, I didn't forward any disagreement with his project. In fact, I didn't even mention it. As I said, it was just that one thing that popped out there that caught my interest.

Beyond that, I'm fairly confident that speciallyblend won't be putting the brakes on any projects over little squabbles like this. It happens. Is what it is.

Anyway. Thank You, P3ter_Griffin. Have a good evening.

I'm going to bail on the thread, too. I only had that one thought that I wanted to share anyway since it caught my attention.

 

[acptulsa]

The issue was raised in the thread with regard to the bake my cake debate. The op responded to the insertion by claiming it to be a non-issue.

He didn't say it was a non-issue. He said it doesn't hold a candle to a great many other issues facing this nation and the world today. And I agree with him.

You said your piece. You consider a baker open to the public being forced to served anyone who comes in his business with money to be as big an issue as Benghazi, state secrets on home servers, the elimination of the First Amendment through people targeted for their religion and reporters getting sued by the politicians they're supposed to cover, influence buying and selling, endless inflation and endless wars. Fine. You registered that opinion.

Now. If you want to belabor it, go for it--just please do it somewhere else besides this thread. Thank you for the bumps, and have a nice evening.

 

[Natural Citizen]

He didn't say it was a non-issue. He said it doesn't hold a candle to a great many other issues facing this nation and the world today. And I agree with him.

And he's patently wrong in making that claim. And so are you if you're in agreement with the claim. You're talking about the primary fundamental principle of Individual Liberty here. Even if you don't think that you are, you are. And that isn't minimal in comparison to anything. Nothing.

You said your piece. You consider a baker open to the public being forced to served anyone who comes in his business with money to be as big an issue as Benghazi, state secrets on home servers, the elimination of the First Amendment through people targeted for their religion and reporters getting sued by the politicians they're supposed to cover, influence buying and selling, endless inflation and endless wars. Fine. You registered that opinion.

Well, no, I'm afraid it's a bit broader than that. But, yes. I did register my opinion. Albeit minimally.

Now. If you want to belabor it, go for it--just please do it somewhere else besides this thread. Thank you for the bumps, and have a nice evening.

Yeah, I'm not posting anything here aside from responding to you people at this point.

Thank You, acptulsa.

 

[LibertyEagle]

I wish Ron's people would get solidly behind Johnson. We might be able to make a difference if we did. There is no way Trump or Hillary is going to be good.

He is FOR THE Trans pacific Partnership!!! No fing way.

 

[acptulsa]

And he's patently wrong in making that claim. And so are you if you're in agreement with the claim. You're talking about the primary fundamental principle of Individual Liberty here. Even if you don't think that you are, you are. And that isn't minimal in comparison to anything. Nothing.

Well, you know, in a Republic you have to balance a businessman's right to refuse service to anyone against a minority's right to be reprehensible, so long as they don't harm anyone in the process. So, it's more of a gray area than you and William Tell make it seem. Not that I disagree with either of you on the subject. I don't. I just see a gray area in it you don't.

It isn't the particle of Johnson's personality that convinces me he's as evil as Clinton and Trump. I haven't found that yet. I think Johnson's good enough that they'd shoot him if he won, and make do with Weld.

Any way you slice it, this two party duopoly is a far greater threat to our liberty than Johnson's desire to make bakers bake, IMO. And if Johnson can kiss enough progressive and sane GOP ass to break it...

 

[Natural Citizen]

Well, you know, in a Republic you have to balance a businessman's right to refuse service to anyone against a minority's right to be reprehensible, so long as they don't harm anyone in the process. So, it's more of a gray area than you and William Tell make it seem. Not that I disagree with either of you on the subject. I don't. I just see a gray area in it you don't.

It isn't the particle of Johnson's personality that convinces me he's as evil as Clinton and Trump. I haven't found that yet. I think Johnson's good enough that they'd shoot him if he won, and make do with Weld.

Any way you slice it, this two party duopoly is a far greater threat to our liberty than Johnson's desire to make bakers bake, IMO. And if Johnson can kiss enough progressive and sane GOP ass to break it...

Okay. Start a thread on this. Seriously. Move it out of here and I'll discuss my thoughts on it with you.

I don't really want to derail the op too much either. But this is an important topic in terms of being on the same page with the principles that define, as you mention, our Republic. Specifically this gray area you mention.

To be clear, though, I don't really care about Johnson. I'm talking about the other stuff.

 

[speciallyblend]

You're patently wrong about that. And it's a reckless assessment in scope.

While I agree with you that the issues you've provided for comparison are critical, they are not beyond the critical scope of the former. Not today. Not tomorrow. Not any day.

the cake issue isnt an issue that will make me vote for authoritarian crazys like trump/hillary that was the point.

 

[speciallyblend]

Yep. To ignore that particular issue is akin to acting contradictory of the primary fundamental principle of Individual Liberty itself.

i agree but in principle there is nothing hitlary or trumphoon offer to any principle but ignoring rule of law and continuing failed policy of authoritarianism. there is not one selling point that hillary or trump say that can beat the principles of gary johnson and his record.

 

[speciallyblend]

i need someone to help do some research so i can outreach these sites to anti trump and anti hillary voters, something around 100-200 to start off with, any help would be helpful especially someone well versed in online marketing, thank you please im me or message me on rpf, we have to win for gary johnson and get him on the debate stage as trump or hillary are not an option and we are screwed either way with those fools(trump/hillary)!!!!!

also anyone who wants to market the sites themselves can do so , sinceraly kenny run with it however you need to, but i still could use some help thank you again.

 

[puppetmaster]

non issue when compared to forced extortion healthcare, spying on americans and failed foreign policy so bake the f in cake or don't open. if that is your issue then yeah i can deal with that. bigger issues then baking a cake Gary johnson over authoritarians like trump/hillary . if you want perfection then you run or ask jesus to. I'll bake the nazi cake if you won't i guess i will vote for trump or hillary now since you have to bake a cake/s so baking a cake is a deal breaker eh? i can find a long list of better deal breakers with liars like trump or hillary both liberals. Gary Johnson over the hillaries(trump/hillary)

Telling a private business to bake a cake is authoritarian

 

[speciallyblend]

Telling a private business to bake a cake is authoritarian

if you are trying to tell me trump or hillary are less authoritarian then gary on issues , that is my point i understand what your saying but if you are gonna vote trump or hillary over baked cakes? considering the fools trump and hillary are, then i cant help you or the system. go ahead let trump and hilalry rule over your big issue of baked cakes haha trump and hillary are far worse then gary and fuck the cakes

 

[speciallyblend]

you win i will support hillary or trump because of baked cakes you got me you guys crack me up, it is a deal breaker screw gary im supporting trump/hillary over baked cakes not!!!

 

[speciallyblend]

i need someone to help do some research so i can outreach these sites to anti trump and anti hillary voters, something around 100-200 to start off with, any help would be helpful especially someone well versed in online marketing, thank you please im me or message me on rpf, we have to win for gary johnson and get him on the debate stage as trump or hillary are not an option and we are screwed either way with those fools(trump/hillary)!!!!!

also anyone who wants to market the sites themselves can do so , sinceraly kenny run with it however you need to, but i still could use some help thank you again.

once again anyone want to help, please take the deal breaker of baked cakes and tell trump and hillary to run with it to beat gary, rpf members can be laughable sometimes

 

[Natural Citizen]

i agree but in principle there is nothing hitlary or trumphoon offer to any principle but ignoring rule of law and continuing failed policy of authoritarianism. there is not one selling point that hillary or trump say that can beat the principles of gary johnson and his record.

Yeah, I know. I was generally speaking to the legitimacy of the fundamental principle. You just happpened to be the one who made the comparison. Which I understand was provided in context with the election itself and your specific project as opposed to overall philosophy. Anyway. Doesn't matter. We already went through it.