Gary Johnson 2016 over the hillaries(hillary/trump)!!Spread the websites far and wide

[puppetmaster]

if you are trying to tell me trump or hillary are less authoritarian then gary on issues , that is my point i understand what your saying but if you are gonna vote trump or hillary over baked cakes? considering the fools trump and hillary are, then i cant help you or the system. go ahead let trump and hilalry rule over your big issue of baked cakes haha trump and hillary are far worse then gary and fuck the cakes

no they all sucks.

 

[speciallyblend]

no they all sucks.

i understand what you are saying i do, but we really have a chance to make a huge impact with 4% more, I still like gary johnson hands over those other 2!

 

[heavenlyboy34]

I wish the LP would nominate a candidate I could feel good about voting for....

There's still time to help Vermin Supreme win the LP nomination...I think...

 

[bunklocoempire]

These 2 sites are cross linked if any media wants to interview site creator please im me. thank you kenny, GARY JOHNSON over the hillaries(hillary and trump(hillary with a phallus)) www.hitlary.com and www.trumphoon.com feel free to main page this and sites mods? if you like, We need to defeat trump and hillary or we will all need lots of lube as they F US!! GARY JOHNSON 2016 the only option unless you love big government loving authoritarians!!

A proven RPFer (as I recall) offering to help others resist.
Its not my method of resisting, but the action of actively resisting, presented in Grassroots, sure looks to be there.

Good on you speciallyblend, I could take a lesson.

Post #35 a request for some help, was buried, here it is:

i need someone to help do some research so i can outreach these sites to anti trump and anti hillary voters, something around 100-200 to start off with, any help would be helpful especially someone well versed in online marketing, thank you please im me or message me on rpf, we have to win for gary johnson and get him on the debate stage as trump or hillary are not an option and we are screwed either way with those fools(trump/hillary)!!!!!

also anyone who wants to market the sites themselves can do so , sinceraly kenny run with it however you need to, but i still could use some help thank you again.

 

[Thor]

Include Gary Johnson in national Presidential polls

https://www.change.org/p/cnn-include-gary-johnson-in-national-presidential-polls

The Commission on Presidential Debates determines whether or not a candidate can be included in the debates based on their performance in five selected national polls. In order to be included in the debates, a candidate must be polling at 15% nationwide. We, the undersigned, believe that Governor Gary Johnson, the Libertarian nominee for President has a chance to reach that threshold. A recent Fox News poll found Gov. Johnson to have 12% support nationwide and his mainstream media exposure in recent weeks has been unprecedented for a Libertarian Presidential candidate, which means that his support has likely grown. Paired with the fact that polls have consistently shown Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton to be among the most polarizing candidates in history, we believe that there is a real opportunity this year for a third-party candidate to make a difference. With the Libertarian Party being the only third party likely to appear on the ballot in all fifty states and the political experience of both Gov. Johnson and his running mate, Governor William Weld, we believe that they are the most likely to capitalize on this opportunity. We urge you to include Governor Johnson in your national polling and help give the American voter another option this November.

This petition will be delivered to:

• CNN
• Rasmussen Reports
• ABC
• CBS
• Washington Post
• NBC
• Wall Street Journal
• Douglas Schwartz, PhD - Quinnipiac University Poll
• Bridget Jameson - Pew Research Center
• USA Today

 

[euphemia]

I agree the cake baking thing is kind of a minor issue - in principle is a pretty important issue but he doesn't want to make things worse, he is just going with the status quo of businesses serving people without discriminating based on race, religion, sexual orientation, etc.. I agree with GJ it is currently a "black hole" issue that would likely lose the election for a candidate.

The two big issues are his stances on the TPP and also that Hillary is innocent or whatever.. oh, and I don't think he is very good on immigration considering that it is currently a highly subsidized government program.

But he is very libertarian on about 90% of the issues. I will still probably vote for him. I would rather have a libertarian who is a little bit of a globalist than an authoritarian leaning nationalist.. although I think we may be better off with Trump than Hillary, I'm not 100% certain on that, but there is good reason to think he would be.

Nationalism may be preferable to socialism, nationalism is a reaction to all of the forced and subsidized multi-culturalism that is having a lot of negative impacts on western society. But nationalism is not optimal, it's not a solution, more like self defense.

In other words, you think the full force of government should be brought to bear on business owners who have closely held religious principles. You think government should have some war, control some guns, and make the TPP. Those don't sound to me like 90% libertarian. It sounds 100% social liberal and 100% big government.

This is a point I have tried to make here for years. A libertarian is committed to limited government and personal responsibility. He cannot bring the full force of government on anything that is not in its specific enumerated powers.

 

[dannno]

In other words, you think the full force of government should be brought to bear on business owners who have closely held religious principles. You think government should have some war, control some guns, and make the TPP. Those don't sound to me like 90% libertarian. It sounds 100% social liberal and 100% big government.

This is a point I have tried to make here for years. A libertarian is committed to limited government and personal responsibility. He cannot bring the full force of government on anything that is not in its specific enumerated powers.

No, I don't think any of those things.. in principle you are right.. but there are a lot of other issues that he is libertarian on like taxes and spending, free market economics, drug policy and foreign policy.

Like I said, he doesn't want to make the cake baker situation worse, he is for the status quo, but he could improve things greatly in these other areas. We will at least live to fight another day, and then we can go free the cake bakers.

The TPP he is ok with if it frees up trade, but he is skeptical of these trade deals. I would be ok with it too if it freed up trade, but I am a lot more skeptical about these trade deals than he is, I know they would throw in bad stuff at the end that nobody had time to read before trying to pass it - but it is less likely they would throw those things in if Gary Johnson had to sign it.

 

[Son_of_Liberty90]

John McAfee should have won, what with the whole cyber security background which is very critical at this point in time. Plus he looks like Tony Stark. Imagine the coverage on that one.

Johnson already tried in 2012.

 

[RJ Liberty]

John McAfee should have won, what with the whole cyber security background which is very critical at this point in time. Plus he looks like Tony Stark. Imagine the coverage on that one.

We don't have to imagine it. The press was brutal, with the NY Post stating, "Computer-security pioneer John McAfee notoriously went on the lam in 2012 to escape police questioning after the murder of a neighbor in Belize. The heavily armed sometime alleged drug dealer [...]"; Slate saying "McAfee—who fled his own Central American residential compound while under suspicion by the Belizean government for the murder of his neighbor; who openly admits that said compound featured a harem of teenage Belizean sex workers"; and the National Review stating, "McAfee is introduced by “Starchild,” an “erotic service provider” from California who is currently wearing a leopard-print leotard and carrying a matching umbrella. The Libertarian party is a reminder that no one truly grows out of Dungeons and Dragons." Few in the media took McAfee seriously. Johnson, on the other hand, is scoring major media interviews and appearances.

 

[Krugminator2]

John McAfee should have won, what with the whole cyber security background which is very critical at this point in time. Plus he looks like Tony Stark. Imagine the coverage on that one.

Johnson already tried in 2012.

John McAfee should be in prison. His company MGT is one of the more blatant stock frauds I have ever seen. He is basically a small scale Madoff trying to feverish turn this "company" into something legit. It is all smoke and mirrors. There is more than enough evidence right now for the SEC to take him down. Government incompetence is best thing going for McAfee right now. I could write 10 pages on all of the lies, misrepresentations, and shady people surrounding him and this company.

 

[Working Poor]

I wish the LP would nominate a candidate I could feel good about voting for....

Would you feel better about voting trump or clinton? I know he is far from perfect but trump and clinton is just a lot closer to horrible. at least Johnson says something about freedom and if he gets in the debate people will her someone talking about freedom.

 

[Suzanimal]

Would you feel better about voting trump or clinton?

No. I'm not voting for anyone running. I thought about writing in Ron Paul but I'll probably write in None of the Above. I would love NotA to win the popular vote and listen to the talking heads try to spin it.

I know he is far from perfect but trump and clinton is just a lot closer to horrible.

Isn't that the kind of thinking that keeps giving us shitty presidents?

at least Johnson says something about freedom and if he gets in the debate people will her someone talking about freedom.

They won't let him in the debate. His chance to get people talking and thinking is right now, in these interviews, but he's blowing it.

 

[Thor]

Would you feel better about voting trump or clinton?

No. I'm not voting for anyone running. I thought about writing in Ron Paul but I'll probably write in None of the Above. I would love NotA to win the popular vote and listen to the talking heads try to spin it.

That will show.... nobody.

I know he is far from perfect but trump and clinton is just a lot closer to horrible.

Isn't that the kind of thinking that keeps giving us shitty presidents?

Sure, when the choice is Asshole A or Liar B only. But voting for a pretty good, but not perfect C actually will help take a step closer to an ideal candidate in the future as if C gets elected or gets enough exposure to wake up more people to our ideas. It is a step in the right direction, instead of demanding a higher level of purity and still going no where.

at least Johnson says something about freedom and if he gets in the debate people will her someone talking about freedom.

They won't let him in the debate. His chance to get people talking and thinking is right now, in these interviews, but he's blowing it.

If he gets 15% or more in the polls, he will get in the debates. He is not blowing it interviews currently. He is not "slick" and "polished" but is quirky and real... and might come across a little funky, and might not saying the right things all the time... but he is not "blowing it." Have you seen Hitlary and Trumphoon? And seen what comes out of their pie holes? He can be unpolished against that and still have a good shot.

Have you signed the petition to get him into the polls, to therefore get him into the debates, or is saying NotA is your vote more comforting as he isn't "pure enough"? https://www.change.org/p/cnn-include-gary-johnson-in-national-presidential-polls The petition signers have doubled in the last 20 hours. It is picking up steam.

We have an unprecedented opportunity with the disdain for Hitlary and Trumphoon to expose the world to LP ideas, even if just quasi libertarian. Even if it is LINO (Libertarian In Name Only) it will get people more comfortable with the ideas and name... But it is better to just complain that he isn't good enough, right? Pour a glass of wine and complain about how bad things are... And then 2016 will be just like 1971 and we can remain hidden in our corner, bitching and moaning to the wall. SMFH

Fucking herding cats....

www.hitlary.com
www.trumphoon.com

 

[speciallyblend]

Include Gary Johnson in national Presidential polls

https://www.change.org/p/cnn-include-gary-johnson-in-national-presidential-polls

The Commission on Presidential Debates determines whether or not a candidate can be included in the debates based on their performance in five selected national polls. In order to be included in the debates, a candidate must be polling at 15% nationwide. We, the undersigned, believe that Governor Gary Johnson, the Libertarian nominee for President has a chance to reach that threshold. A recent Fox News poll found Gov. Johnson to have 12% support nationwide and his mainstream media exposure in recent weeks has been unprecedented for a Libertarian Presidential candidate, which means that his support has likely grown. Paired with the fact that polls have consistently shown Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton to be among the most polarizing candidates in history, we believe that there is a real opportunity this year for a third-party candidate to make a difference. With the Libertarian Party being the only third party likely to appear on the ballot in all fifty states and the political experience of both Gov. Johnson and his running mate, Governor William Weld, we believe that they are the most likely to capitalize on this opportunity. We urge you to include Governor Johnson in your national polling and help give the American voter another option this November.

This petition will be delivered to:

• CNN
• Rasmussen Reports
• ABC
• CBS
• Washington Post
• NBC
• Wall Street Journal
• Douglas Schwartz, PhD - Quinnipiac University Poll
• Bridget Jameson - Pew Research Center
• USA Today

just signed what do i have to do to get rpf to get this front page?? $$$$$

 

[Thor]

Include Gary Johnson in national Presidential polls

https://www.change.org/p/cnn-include-gary-johnson-in-national-presidential-polls

The Commission on Presidential Debates determines whether or not a candidate can be included in the debates based on their performance in five selected national polls. In order to be included in the debates, a candidate must be polling at 15% nationwide. We, the undersigned, believe that Governor Gary Johnson, the Libertarian nominee for President has a chance to reach that threshold. A recent Fox News poll found Gov. Johnson to have 12% support nationwide and his mainstream media exposure in recent weeks has been unprecedented for a Libertarian Presidential candidate, which means that his support has likely grown. Paired with the fact that polls have consistently shown Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton to be among the most polarizing candidates in history, we believe that there is a real opportunity this year for a third-party candidate to make a difference. With the Libertarian Party being the only third party likely to appear on the ballot in all fifty states and the political experience of both Gov. Johnson and his running mate, Governor William Weld, we believe that they are the most likely to capitalize on this opportunity. We urge you to include Governor Johnson in your national polling and help give the American voter another option this November.

This petition will be delivered to:

• CNN
• Rasmussen Reports
• ABC
• CBS
• Washington Post
• NBC
• Wall Street Journal
• Douglas Schwartz, PhD - Quinnipiac University Poll
• Bridget Jameson - Pew Research Center
• USA Today

Over 20,000 signed

 

[speciallyblend]

ok i am going to run radio ads against trump and hillary in the denver,boulder and mtn markets. anyone who would like to give some ideas or input please contact me . also any mods or rpf that would like to help , i could use your help, override that none of above banner , i will pay. we need gary on that debate stage anyone that cannot see that please stay off this thread and away from the idea wagon ,as we make radio ads and actually do something to win. if you are not voting or supporting gary please go away support trump or something we need real activists. once the radio ads are produced i will give everyone open source to run with the ads. i have 0 time for naysayers!!!

 

[Natural Citizen]

if you are not voting or supporting gary please go away support trump or something we need real activists....i have 0 time for naysayers!!!

I'll stay out of your thread but I want to respond to this. Gary Jonhnson holds a position that is contrary to the primary fundamental principle of Individual Liberty. To promote Johnson in the name of Liberty is essentially bastardizing its fundamental principles.

Some people around here may endorse that kind of activism. I don't. And I'll actively oppose it whether it be here or any place else. And I couldn't care less what you or or anyone else thinks about it. You don't get the luxury of promoting someone in the name of Individual Liberty whose positions are contrary to it's primary fundamental principle just because you say you do. You don't. Not today. Not tomorrow. Not any day. The only way you'll continue to do so here without opposition is if people like me get banned for speaking in the name of the primary fundamental principle of Individual Liberty. So, I'm telling you this respectfully. My intention is not to further stimulate the antagonistic position that you've taken. I'm simply telling you that you won't get a free pass to pass off a candidate in the name of Individual Liberty whose position is contrary to its most fundamental principles.

 

[Thor]

I'll stay out of your thread but I want to respond to this. Gary Jonhnson holds a position that is contrary to the primary fundamental priciple of Individual Liberty. To promote Johnson in the name of Liberty is essentially bastardizing its fundamental principles.

Some people around here may endorse that kind of activism. I don't. And I'll actively oppose it. And I couldn't care less what you or or anyone else thinks about it. You don't get the luxury of promoting someone in the name of Individual Liberty whose positions are contrary to it's primary fundamental principle just because you say you do. You don't. Not today. Not tomorrow. Not any day. The only way you'll continue to do so here without opposition is if people like me get banned for speaking in the name of the primary fundamental principle of Individual Liberty.

It's like 1971 all over again. LOL Sitting in our corner, yelling at the wall. FFS.

 

[Unknownuser]

I wish Ron's people would get solidly behind Johnson. We might be able to make a difference if we did. There is no way Trump or Hillary is going to be good.

I wish Ron Pauls people would have gotten behind Rand Paul.

 

[Natural Citizen]

It's like 1971 all over again. LOL Sitting in our corner, yelling at the wall. FFS.

No. I've been rather passive on the screwery. I thought the op was rather arrogant in his previous communication when he told those of us who support the primary fundamental principles of Individual Liberty to go away and just let him have a free pass to promote someone whose position is fundamentally contrary to it.

When preferable "activism" is accepted and understood to be actions that promote presidential candidates who hold positions that are patently contrary to the primary fundamental principles of Individual Liberty, yet in the name of Individual Liberty, then I think it's time for a reassessment of why we're here.