France orders illegal Roma immigrants expelled: Sounds like the US..

[Kludge]

The majority of whites voted for McCain, but the majority support smaller government, and are far more sympathetic to small government ideals than non-whites.

Is that what a majority-vote for McCain, whose campaign primarily consisted of talking about how he'd secure America through continued war, suggests? Thinking off the top of my head of who has actually brought real tangible change in favor of smaller government within the past decade, I can only think of Clarence Thomas, Scalia in many cases, and perhaps Assange depending on how his releases are acted on.

 

[Adolfo Mena Gonzalez]

You have to be kidding me right?

I am not kidding, the majority of Americans support spending and tax cuts, and those Americans are white.

 

[Adolfo Mena Gonzalez]

Is that what a majority-vote for McCain, whose campaign primarily consisted of talking about how he'd secure America through continued war, suggests? Thinking off the top of my head of who has actually brought real tangible change in favor of smaller government within the past decade, I can only think of Clarence Thomas, Scalia in many cases, and perhaps Assange depending on how his releases are acted on.

Well, the polls suggest that most Americans support spending and tax cuts, I am not saying I agree with their vote, but they clearly viewed McCain as more sympathetic to this view than Obama.

 

[osan]

I am not kidding, the majority of Americans support spending and tax cuts, and those Americans are white.

What the hell? Have you personally spoken with the majority of Americans?

Is "white" an issue? If so, how? If not, why mention it?

 

[DAFTEK]

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[Petit Tonnerre]

Sound familiar? Read between the lines. Either the AP is working the same script or "illegal" immigrants are scapegoated in every nation as a means to take attention away from the inefficiencies of big government and divert public anger.



It would be so easy to interject the term "illegal immigrant" or "undocumented worker" into this article.

Just something to think about as we move to the New World Order.

They are not immigrants, you're naive.

They are a buch of animal scums, they steal, they kill, they rob the average people. This is the way they have lived for centuries from the Middle ages on.

They never come to our country, to produce anything, but rather because they are sent to us by their countries governments which are rather happy to get rid of them, it has been shown that their governments even pay them the travel expenses.

All these problems exist because they integrated poor Eastern European countries in the EU, without holding any referendum, also because of the closing of checkpoints at borders, and the fact that we have gun control and if you shoot them to defend yourself, you go to prison, and they know it.

Everyone I know has a bad story to tell about them that happened to him or her.
Now everyday I use the subway, I see at least one gypsy beggar anoying the people around in every car of the train or playing some shi**y music. It's getting worse each year, at least since they opened the Eastern borders.

People who defend them now, don't understand that, once the Western European economies collapse, we might have a race war...

 

[Pete Kay]

America is, and has always been, the veritable melting pot, a wonderful and wondrous cacophony of at times widely different cultures all coming together to harmoniously create the "American Culture".

See, it's this type of liberal egalitarian bullshit that drives me crazy. Multi-culturalism has never been harmonious. It always leads to strife. It only seems harmonious after the fact, once disparate groups of people have finally blended together to form a more homogeneous group. The process has never been and never will be easy.

Some of you need to think about whether Americans even want to deal with the friction that massive immigration causes. Most don't. It's only the elites that keep banging the drum of unlimited immigration. Why would anyone want to be displaced economically, politically and culturally? What kind of insane person wants to give more votes to others that have a different set of interests? What causes some to believe that millions of immigrants from another country will somehow care about the people that were there before them more than they do those that are like themselves?

 

[crazyfacedjenkins]

They are not immigrants, you're naive.

They are a buch of animal scums, they steal, they kill, they rob the average people. This is the way they have lived for centuries from the Middle ages on.

They never come to our country, to produce anything, but rather because they are sent to us by their countries governments which are rather happy to get rid of them, it has been shown that their governments even pay them the travel expenses.

All these problems exist because they integrated poor Eastern European countries in the EU, without holding any referendum, also because of the closing of checkpoints at borders, and the fact that we have gun control and if you shoot them to defend yourself, you go to prison, and they know it.

Everyone I know has a bad story to tell about them that happened to him or her.
Now everyday I use the subway, I see at least one gypsy beggar anoying the people around in every car of the train or playing some shi**y music. It's getting worse each year, at least since they opened the Eastern borders.

People who defend them now, don't understand that, once the Western European economies collapse, we might have a race war...

Way to piss on people's right to express themselves. What the fuck are you doing on this forum?

 

[crazyfacedjenkins]

Great, so we can give everyone a job for peanuts like we are the third world, tell me when that happens, because prices haven't fallen yet, they have gone up, and not everyone is employed at a shit wage, in fact, unemployment is at 10%. You are talking about economics in your anarchistic imaginationland, not in the real world. In the real world, as the supply of labor increases, real wages fall, and those who are willing to work for less(the illegals), take the jobs from Americans who won't work for below minimum wage. What you seem to be advocating is a rat race to the bottom, where most Americans work for slave wage, and as we import more third worlders, America becomes the third world.

You going to piss and moan when I replace that manual labor with a machine? Using your logic, we should ban automobiles and bring back the horse and buggy. Nice try.

 

[crazyfacedjenkins]

No, we live in a Republic, not a democracy, learn the difference.
...

It's a representative democracy which falls in the category of indirect democracy. Do you really have that much trouble understanding the various categories of democracy?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varieties_of_democracy#Indirect_democracy

 

[Petit Tonnerre]

Way to piss on people's right to express themselves. What the fuck are you doing on this forum?

It's a public subway, you idiot...this is no Libertarialand...everything is socialized in this country, everything is made so that you have no choice but to ride with the gypsies begging around or even stealing you, when all you want is to quietly go to work.
Most French agree with my point. You are one of those Human rights useful idiots, you are with the globalist elites on that one.

Don't talk about something you have no idea about. Don't act like an American with me.

 

[crazyfacedjenkins]

It's a public subway, you idiot...this is no Libertarialand...everything is socialized in this country, everything is made so that you have no choice but to ride with the gypsies begging around or even stealing you, when all you want is to quietly go to work.
Most French agree with my point. You are one of those Human rights useful idiots, you are with the globalist elites on that one.

Don't talk about something you have no idea about. Don't act like an American with me.

I don't give a shit, what are you doing on this forum if you are so anti liberty? If someone isn't harming anyone, it's non of your business how they behave.

 

[Petit Tonnerre]

I don't give a shit, what are you doing on this forum if you are so anti liberty? If someone isn't harming anyone, it's non of your business how they behave.

It's not a forum about liberty, it's a forum about Ron Paul. Ron Paul is not for open borders and illegal immigration. Gipsies are illegal immigrants, and to make it worse they allow themselves to annoy us the local people.

Chinese illegal immigrants, on the contrary, are nice people, they don't beg, steal and rob French people homes and they are working to improve our economy.
If everything has to be socialized, we want at least to have the right to say who we want to be socializing with. French don't want to socialize with the gypsies, you have to respect that.

 

[crazyfacedjenkins]

It's not a forum about liberty, it's a forum about Ron Paul. Ron Paul is not for open borders and illegal immigration. Gipsies are illegal immigrants, and to make it worse they allow themselves to annoy us the local people.

Ron Paul wants to make it easier for people to get their papers, he doesn't discriminate against people that annoy him.

Chinese illegal immigrants, on the contrary, are nice people, they don't beg, steal and rob French people homes and they are working to improve our economy.
If everything has to be socialized, we want at least to have the right to say who we want to be socializing with. French don't want to socialize with the gypsies, you have to respect that.

No I don't. Get over yourself.

 

[Petit Tonnerre]

Ron Paul wants to make it easier for people to get their papers, he doesn't discriminate against people that annoy him.

Gipsies themselves, they say they have no will to go through the whole paper process. Most gypsies in my country, their families have been there for maybe a century, and they still don't have their French papers. Because they don't consider themselves as belonging to our country, but to THEIR PEOPLE. Their group is everything to them, it's even more important than their own persons.

Last summer you had a young gypsy killed by the police while he was fleeing with a stolen car. He did a risky thing and paid the price for it, right ?
Well, what happened next is that his whole gypsy group, 200 people, attacked the local town they were living next to. They burned the town hall, the French flags, attacked the bakery, local shops, they have even cut trees on the main street...
This has shocked French people, you can understand that.

No I don't. Get over yourself.

I don't have anything against you personally, and I can understand your point of view.
I just think it's rather easy and unfair to say that from far away. That's what the EU bureaucrats in Bruxelles have been telling French people this last summer, and you can understand, why most polls show, the French and the Europeans hate the eurocrat elites, as a result.

 

[crazyfacedjenkins]

Gipsies themselves, they say they have no will to go through the whole paper process. Most gypsies in my country, their families have been there for maybe a century, and they still don't have their French papers. Because they don't consider themselves as belonging to our country, but to THEIR PEOPLE. Their group is everything to them, it's even more important than their own persons.

Last summer you had a young gypsy killed by the police while he was fleeing with a stolen car. He did a risky thing and paid the price for it, right ?
Well, what happened next is that his whole gypsy group, 200 people, attacked the local town they were living next to. They burned the town hall, the French flags, attacked the bakery, local shops, they have even cut trees on the main street...

This has shocked French people, you can understand that.

When the French allow the pig cops to behave like fucking animals, they deserve the blow back riot. We have the same shit in the US, when people are shoved to the breaking point... they fucking break.

[video=metacafe;320686/rodney_king_beating/]http://www.metacafe.com/watch/320686/rodney_king_beating/[/video]

"Blow back"

[video=metacafe;849785/l_a_riots/]http://www.metacafe.com/watch/849785/l_a_riots/[/video]

I don't have anything against you personally, and I can understand your point of view.
I just think it's rather easy and unfair to say that from far away. That's what the EU bureaucrats in Bruxelles have been telling French people this last summer, and you can understand, why most polls show, the French and the Europeans hate the eurocrat elites, as a result.

Frankly, if the French are as bigoted as this, they deserve the elites shoving them around.

 

[AxisMundi]

See, it's this type of liberal egalitarian bullshit that drives me crazy. Multi-culturalism has never been harmonious. It always leads to strife. It only seems harmonious after the fact, once disparate groups of people have finally blended together to form a more homogeneous group. The process has never been and never will be easy.

Some of you need to think about whether Americans even want to deal with the friction that massive immigration causes. Most don't. It's only the elites that keep banging the drum of unlimited immigration. Why would anyone want to be displaced economically, politically and culturally? What kind of insane person wants to give more votes to others that have a different set of interests? What causes some to believe that millions of immigrants from another country will somehow care about the people that were there before them more than they do those that are like themselves?

You failed five words into your reply. I am not a liberal. Nor do I support "unlimited immigration". Apparently you are unaware of my position and posts concerning Illegal Aliens and how to get them out of our country. The very act of Naturalization only prepares a new prospective citizen to function in our Nation by ensuring marketable skills and a basic understanding of our language. It does not condition said prospective citizen to "act American" or become part of the "American Race".

We have never been anything BUT a multi-cultural Nation. Our citizens count among them ancestry from, or are born of, every single country, ethnicity, and religion on the planet, including those who were here before Europeans. Been that way since day one with immigrants who were English, Welsh, Scottish, Irish, French, German, Asians, free and enslaved Africans, Dutch, Italian, Spanish, et cetera ad nauseum. Not to mention all the different sects of Christians, Muslims, Jews, and Hindus, Buddhists, Shinto, heathens, pagans, and atheists as well.

So, feel free to explain how America has never been a multi-cultural Nation.

 

[Petit Tonnerre]

When the French allow the pig cops to behave like fucking animals, they deserve the blow back riot. We have the same shit in the US, when people are shoved to the breaking point... they fucking break.

Ok, maybe you have brutal cops in the US, but this might be the thing you fail to understand.
Here the cops are really weak, the silent majority is secretly rooting for them, while the leftist medias are all the time picking on them, calling them racists and other names. The politicians are so scared of these medias, that they don't send cops anymore to arrest gypsies, or to regain control in suburban ghettos, in order to avoid riots.
And now they have problems with cops who refuse to even enter in those gypsy camps anyways, I learned it firsthand from a friend who works for the ministry of interior.

Frankly, if the French are as bigoted as this, they deserve the elites shoving them around.

Now I see who you're rooting for...
What's funny with your answer, is that it could come from one of those communists advocating atrocities, after getting frustrated because little people don't want to share his great ideas.
I am sure, you mean well, but you are an ideologue. Ideology is not reality.

 

[Adolfo Mena Gonzalez]

You going to piss and moan when I replace that manual labor with a machine? Using your logic, we should ban automobiles and bring back the horse and buggy. Nice try.

No, I won't piss and moan, because a machine doesn't reduce the price of labor, vote, drain public services, have a lower intelligence, higher criminal tendencies or have an alien culture. If our society becomes so capital intensive that machines can do the work, that just means more leisure time for the working classes. It won't be because we flooded America with third worlders. It will most likely be because we prohibited it.

 

[Adolfo Mena Gonzalez]

It's a public subway, you idiot...this is no Libertarialand...everything is socialized in this country, everything is made so that you have no choice but to ride with the gypsies begging around or even stealing you, when all you want is to quietly go to work.
Most French agree with my point. You are one of those Human rights useful idiots, you are with the globalist elites on that one.

Don't talk about something you have no idea about. Don't act like an American with me.

I agree with you, gypsies are filthy, I wouldn't want them polluting the city I live in either. When I was in Europe(most particularly France and Italy), they were an epidemic. I saw these dirty people littering the streets and harassing tourists like myself for money, I even saw them try to send their kids to pick pocket passers by. All they do is sit around all day in their own filth and collect a welfare check. Hopefully they are deported back to Romania(I fell sorry for regular Romanians though).