France orders illegal Roma immigrants expelled: Sounds like the US..

[Adolfo Mena Gonzalez]

Get over yourself, we don't want you or your shit culture here. I'll take a hard working capitalist illegal over a whiny brat any day.

All those Mestizo Libertarians, lol, how exactly did "Latinos" vote in the last election? How are you going to convince a family of ten who lives in a two room apartment that getting rid of the income tax and cutting the department of education or their food stamps is good for them, do you seriously think they will vote for such a platform.

 

[crazyfacedjenkins]

All those Mestizo Libertarians, lol, how exactly did "Latinos" vote in the last election? How are you going to convince a family of ten who lives in a two room apartment that getting rid of the income tax and cutting the department of education or their food stamps is good for them, do you seriously think they will vote for such a platform.

Where in my post did I specify Latinos? Furthermore, what do voting US citizens have to do with illegals????? More logic fail from a xenophobic, whiny liberal who's job was taken by a much harder working capitalist illegal. As far as I'm concerned, I'll take a person who travels thousands of miles and risks their life just for a job over some whiny brat any day of the week.

 

[crazyfacedjenkins]

Spew all the emotionalist nonsense you please. I've been there and experienced these people first hand. It has nothing to do with race and everything to do with behavior. I will also point out your problems in reading comprehension. Nowhere did I say they were all the same. I wrote that on the whole the behavior is criminal - meaning mainly. Go to Hungary and you will find not many people who care much for gypsies not because they are gypsies but because of the ways most behave. I have spent day after day watching them for hours on end as they would mug and beat people in broad daylight, for example, on Market Street in Debrecen. I have observed this activity all seasons of the year, year in and year out. That is not racism. It is simply observed fact.

Make whatever charge of "racism" you please. It does not impress me much. My opinions are based on first hand observation, not second hand hearsay.

I've heard this shameless racist shit thousands of times before, it doesn't impress me much. Go ahead and side with a tyrant like Sarkozy, who openly pisses on democracy in the UN.

 

[Adolfo Mena Gonzalez]

Where in my post did I specify Latinos? Furthermore, what do voting US citizens have to do with illegals????? More logic fail from a xenophobic, whiny liberal who's job was taken by a much harder working capitalist illegal. As far as I'm concerned, I'll take a person who travels thousands of miles and risks their life just for a job over some whiny brat any day of the week.

Most illegals are "latino", that is just common sense. Illegals have children in the United States who vote , and "Latinos" aka Mestizos, vote as a bloc for pro-establishment and welfarist candidates. They support growing the welfare state and restricting economic freedom.

You are just engaging in name calling, and making yourself look immature. And your immature and hateful view towards Americans is the reason that the Libertarian Party will never win an election or be politically relevant, because of jerks like you who are antagonistic towards working americans who have to deal with lower wages and unemployment as a result of illegal immigration.

 

[Adolfo Mena Gonzalez]

I've heard this shameless racist shit thousands of times before, it doesn't impress me much. Go ahead and side with a tyrant like Sarkozy, who openly pisses on democracy in the UN.

Democracy should be pissed on.

 

[crazyfacedjenkins]

Democracy should be pissed on.

I'm assuming you're from that group of people who thinks democracy is bad but a representative democracy is good.

More asinine statements from someone who doesn't know the difference between tyranny of the majority and checks and balances. A representative democracy doesn't prevent tyranny of the majority, checks and balances do.

 

[crazyfacedjenkins]

Most illegals are "latino", that is just common sense. Illegals have children in the United States who vote , and "Latinos" aka Mestizos, vote as a bloc for pro-establishment and welfarist candidates. They support growing the welfare state and restricting economic freedom.

Once again, illegals don't vote. Also, just because you believe in collectivism doesn't mean you can kick out people who don't vote the way you want them to.

You are just engaging in name calling, and making yourself look immature. And your immature and hateful view towards Americans is the reason that the Libertarian Party will never win an election or be politically relevant, because of jerks like you who are antagonistic towards working americans who have to deal with lower wages and unemployment as a result of illegal immigration.

If you actually think that, you don't have a clue how free markets work.

 

[agar]

Good for France!

"Roma" is a recent politically correct term for gypsies.

Since time immemorial, gypsies have been a race of thieves and scam artists, hated by all host nations.

That's not a "racist" claim...it's actually the essence of their culture and they are proud of it. "Roma" raise their kids to shoplift and run scams. Italians are fed up with them and now so are the French.

Remember Cher's old song from the 70's - "Gypsies, tramps and thieves."

 

[nobody's_hero]

France has been fighting a losing battle on the issue for ages. If nothing else, they'll serve as an example of what will probably happen to us, in any case.

 

[AxisMundi]

A national identity and culture. Whatever you say Mussolini.

1. Each and every Illegal Alien currently residing within our borders is a rude slap in the face to each and every naturalized citizen who has taken the time and trouble to become US citizens.

2. Illegal Aliens cost US tax payers billions annually. What small amount of sales taxes collected from them do not come close to offsetting the cost of educating their children, welfare programs, medical costs, and imprisonment for the inevitable criminal element that has snuck in with the otherwise law abiding, hard working people looking for a better life, people who have no real interest in becoming citizens and therefor should not be here.

Offer a six month amnesty to leave, Those that sign up on the way out get placed at the top of the list for work/school visas. As Canada currently offers a six month amnesty for foreign nationals, those Illegal Aliens from overseas would have a place to go. In six months, begin the work/school visa lottery. Any Illegal Alien found within our borders after that six month period would be incarcerated and then deported.

Heavy fines and imprisonment for employers/renters who knowingly hire Illegal Aliens should also be implemented after said amnesty period.

"National Identity" and "culture", considering the nature of our Nation, are false flags, so to speak. However, there are real and serious concerns generated by the population of Illegal Aliens.

 

[AxisMundi]

Good for France!

"Roma" is a recent politically correct term for gypsies.

Since time immemorial, gypsies have been a race of thieves and scam artists, hated by all host nations.

That's not a "racist" claim...it's actually the essence of their culture and they are proud of it. "Roma" raise their kids to shoplift and run scams. Italians are fed up with them and now so are the French.

Remember Cher's old song from the 70's - "Gypsies, tramps and thieves."

Roma is the ancient term, not a modern one, gypsies is the modern, derogatory term for this ethnic group that originated in India.

And in certain areas of Europe, such as Romania and the Kalderash group, they are a quite prosperous, accepted part of society.

So might I suggest that you refrain from horrid generalizations.

Certainly some are thieves, in areas where they are forced into an underground subculture by racism. But to claim all are is simple generalization.

 

[tnvoter]

There's no issues with illegal immigration when it's not a welfare state.

HO-HUM

 

[Adolfo Mena Gonzalez]

I'm assuming you're from that group of people who thinks democracy is bad but a representative democracy is good.

More asinine statements from someone who doesn't know the difference between tyranny of the majority and checks and balances. A representative democracy doesn't prevent tyranny of the majority, checks and balances do.

No, you assume wrong. And I don't need a civics lecture from a presumptive asshole like you. I know what a Republic is.

 

[Adolfo Mena Gonzalez]

Once again, illegals don't vote. Also, just because you believe in collectivism doesn't mean you can kick out people who don't vote the way you want them to.



If you actually think that, you don't have a clue how free markets work.

No one ever said illegals vote, so I don't why you keep saying that like I said so. I can most certainly vote for politicians who will deport illegals, prevent their kids form getting citizenship, and prevent people from immigrating here who believe in growing the state.

Please, enlighten me on how a market works, if wages are not determined by the supply and demand of labor, than what are they determined by? And if unemployed americans don't go on unemployment insurance, what do they go on?

 

[crazyfacedjenkins]

No one ever said illegals vote, so I don't why you keep saying that like I said so. I can most certainly vote for politicians who will deport illegals, prevent their kids form getting citizenship, and prevent people from immigrating here who believe in growing the state.

Please, enlighten me on how a market works, if wages are not determined by the supply and demand of labor, than what are they determined by? And if unemployed americans don't go on unemployment insurance, what do they go on?

Illegals do the work for cheap, the prices of goods fall. We can use the now freed resources for more jobs. Do I really have to spell it out on rpf??? What the fuck happened to these god damn forums, they're flooded with liberal neocons!!!

 

[crazyfacedjenkins]

No one ever said illegals vote, so I don't why you keep saying that like I said so. I can most certainly vote for politicians who will deport illegals, prevent their kids form getting citizenship, and prevent people from immigrating here who believe in growing the state.

Please, enlighten me on how a market works, if wages are not determined by the supply and demand of labor, than what are they determined by? And if unemployed americans don't go on unemployment insurance, what do they go on?

We live in a fucking democracy! The word democracy doesn't always mean direct democracy. If you think pissing on a democracy is ok, then get out of these forums mr 59 posts. Why can't you trolls just get the message when you're banned???

 

[cindy25]

when the economy is bad it's easy to blame foreign labor.

 

[crazyfacedjenkins]

when the economy is bad it's easy to blame foreign labor.

Exactly. Notice how Sarkozy, Berlusconi, Merkel, etc want complete control over the economy, but when their policies fail it's the immigrants fault!! It's the same old pathetic scapegoating that has happened for millennia, and the fact that members at rpf would fall for is despicable. They're siding with a bunch of totalitarian fascists, completely diametrically opposed to free markets and capitalism.

Germany's Angela Merkel: Multiculturalism has 'utterly failed'
Berlusconi clamps down on Gypsies

 

[crazyfacedjenkins]

That.

I will say one thing about gypsies: they are their own worst enemy in many ways. They are culturally inclined to thievery and violence. I know this first hand having spent a lot of time in place like Hungary watching them. It is the way they choose to live and interact with others, which is the reason they are despised. Accountability cuts all ways and one cannot reasonably assert that the dislike of gypsies is purely based in "racism". It is demonstrably false.

Back in the 80s or early 90s, Hungary went all PC and built huge housing complexes for gypsies. They destroyed those places in short order and were nuisances as they have always been. Most refused to use the toilets and would go down to the bushes and crap there. When hundreds are doing the same in a relatively confined space, not only is it disgusting, it is hazardous. On the whole, gypsies really do behave in very vile ways - notably more so than most other ethnic groups with which I have become familiar.

It may not be right to kick them out of a nation, but their behaviors are not right either, on the whole. Were it just that they were "different", I'd understand the complaint. They are criminals mostly and they are therefore accountable for such behavior. Because of the ingrained criminality of their culture, it is no wonder most everyone wants them gone. I sure as hell would not want to live amongst them.

This is the problem, socialist. Nobody is suggesting tax dollars should be used to aid one group over another. Since you blame people for government mismanagement, you really are turning out to be quite a totalitarian socialist (the worst kind of socialist). I guess that's to be expected from someone who works for the government.

 

[Kludge]

All those Mestizo Libertarians, lol, how exactly did "Latinos" vote in the last election? How are you going to convince a family of ten who lives in a two room apartment that getting rid of the income tax and cutting the department of education or their food stamps is good for them, do you seriously think they will vote for such a platform.

All those White Libertarians, lol, how exactly did "Whites" vote in the last election?